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Pik
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany176 Posts
July 14 2016 23:06 GMT
#24001
Why is there no Ring of Protection in the side shop?
wow, this gank is gonna be easy....
kapibara-san
Profile Joined July 2016
Japan415 Posts
July 15 2016 00:23 GMT
#24002
On July 15 2016 08:06 Pik wrote:
Why is there no Ring of Protection in the side shop?

same reason theres no branches, circlets, mantle of ints, windlace, raindrops... "who knows for sure?"

ask icefrog / devs
tfw your posting style is obnoxious to everybody else but strangely compelling to you... like a fart...
Ler
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Germany543 Posts
July 15 2016 05:47 GMT
#24003
On July 15 2016 08:06 Pik wrote:
Why is there no Ring of Protection in the side shop?


Balance - Would enable gg builds
Twitter: @Ler_GG | Facebook: lergg | youtube: lerlolgg | Twitch.tv/gg_nore | #ArtOfSupport
Baggage
Profile Joined October 2012
Hong Kong593 Posts
July 15 2016 06:12 GMT
#24004
So your safelane carry can cancel your mid player's bottle for his ring of basilieus.
[10:23pm] Gosi: I want to be famous and have many twitter followers and get blowjobs during tournements at the bathroom [10:23pm] Gosi: do i play mnid or support for thhat [10:23pm] Gosi: u tell me
bdonballer
Profile Joined October 2014
United States408 Posts
July 16 2016 05:53 GMT
#24005
So offlaners have to wait 8 minutes to get tranquil boots or ring of aquila.
I carry hard!
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-16 14:37:32
July 16 2016 14:34 GMT
#24006
whats the interaction between thundergods wrath and slark ulit.
It normally shouldnt hit an invis target, unless its revealed by the previously enemy hero who was hit by wrath
does slark get hit or not while in ulti form
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
kapibara-san
Profile Joined July 2016
Japan415 Posts
July 16 2016 15:31 GMT
#24007
On July 16 2016 23:34 Shock710 wrote:
whats the interaction between thundergods wrath and slark ulit.
It normally shouldnt hit an invis target, unless its revealed by the previously enemy hero who was hit by wrath
does slark get hit or not while in ulti form

nothing reveals slark in ulti; nothing that requires vision to hit, including zeus ult, can hit slark in ulti
tfw your posting style is obnoxious to everybody else but strangely compelling to you... like a fart...
Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
July 16 2016 15:57 GMT
#24008
Also didnt they fix the thundergods wrath and reveal interaction so that it doesnt anymore hit targets based on their color? IIRC it now deals damage to every enemy first and then reveals all of them right after.
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BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
July 20 2016 14:49 GMT
#24009
How do you go about carrying friends that feed super hard every game?

I'm at a point where we get placed in games more than 1k mmr under my solo mmr (I'm hovering between 3k and 3k5, we play in 2k average games), and I still can't manage to win (like 30% winrate when playing with them), no matter what at least one of them ends up 0-10 or some shit.

And no I wont stop playing with them, they're irl friends and playing is still fun despite the losses. Having 50% winrate would be fine by me.
Romanes eunt domus
Jaeger
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1150 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-20 17:51:50
July 20 2016 17:51 GMT
#24010
Well if you know they're going to feed I guess you can either bait them to counter gank or use their feed as space to farm elsewhere.

Then you just need a 1v5 hero that can turn that gold into a win.
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Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3261 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-20 21:32:16
July 20 2016 21:29 GMT
#24011
On July 20 2016 23:49 BobMcJohnson wrote:
How do you go about carrying friends that feed super hard every game?

I'm at a point where we get placed in games more than 1k mmr under my solo mmr (I'm hovering between 3k and 3k5, we play in 2k average games), and I still can't manage to win (like 30% winrate when playing with them), no matter what at least one of them ends up 0-10 or some shit.

And no I wont stop playing with them, they're irl friends and playing is still fun despite the losses. Having 50% winrate would be fine by me.

Pick someone who can snowball, try to find out who on the enemy team is the one to pull their mmr on your level and feast on everyone else. Play really aggressive until you get a big streak. Works great on 2k, because nobody ever tp's defensively, so playing aggressive is pretty easy.

Also ingame calls, depending on how much for fun they are playing. If they just don't give a shit they prolly won't listen and might get stressed, if they want to win and just are bad, ingame calls will work wonders.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
July 20 2016 22:07 GMT
#24012
Ignore your team, go farm and hit towers, get solo pickoffs too.
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-21 13:02:51
July 21 2016 12:58 GMT
#24013
On July 20 2016 23:49 BobMcJohnson wrote:
How do you go about carrying friends that feed super hard every game?

I'm at a point where we get placed in games more than 1k mmr under my solo mmr (I'm hovering between 3k and 3k5, we play in 2k average games), and I still can't manage to win (like 30% winrate when playing with them), no matter what at least one of them ends up 0-10 or some shit.

And no I wont stop playing with them, they're irl friends and playing is still fun despite the losses. Having 50% winrate would be fine by me.


how about sitting down and spending i dont know, 10-30m to address some of the problems they have playing. you'll both learn.

teach a man to fish. it sounds dumb but it's a lot more productive than watching your friends struggle.

it's fun just messing around, but it's also irritating to hear unintelligible whining. you're worried about winning and having fun, but do your friends have fun doing so poorly in every game?
i guarantee not.

the more knowledge they have about the game, the more invested and fun it'll be to hang out and watch games together. and it's all rather than it being like a temporary gaming fling.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
July 21 2016 13:42 GMT
#24014
yeah thats probably the best advice for that, i found that telling the lower mmr friends that in lane right clicking outside of the creep agro to harass is way better than when "harassing" or that pulling a single small camp can ruin the creep equilibrium so its hard for the carry to last hit for an potential kills.

The biggest problem they have to overcome tho is getting their spells off, which i dont think u can help they just have to go about it their own way. Just drop information that can let them help you.
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
kapibara-san
Profile Joined July 2016
Japan415 Posts
July 22 2016 06:48 GMT
#24015
On July 20 2016 23:49 BobMcJohnson wrote:
How do you go about carrying friends that feed super hard every game?

I'm at a point where we get placed in games more than 1k mmr under my solo mmr (I'm hovering between 3k and 3k5, we play in 2k average games), and I still can't manage to win (like 30% winrate when playing with them), no matter what at least one of them ends up 0-10 or some shit.

And no I wont stop playing with them, they're irl friends and playing is still fun despite the losses. Having 50% winrate would be fine by me.

pick tiny every game

get phase blink aghs echo ac bkb win game

tinnyyyyyyyyyyy
tfw your posting style is obnoxious to everybody else but strangely compelling to you... like a fart...
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
July 22 2016 19:54 GMT
#24016
On July 20 2016 23:49 BobMcJohnson wrote:
How do you go about carrying friends that feed super hard every game?

I'm at a point where we get placed in games more than 1k mmr under my solo mmr (I'm hovering between 3k and 3k5, we play in 2k average games), and I still can't manage to win (like 30% winrate when playing with them), no matter what at least one of them ends up 0-10 or some shit.

And no I wont stop playing with them, they're irl friends and playing is still fun despite the losses. Having 50% winrate would be fine by me.


It's just a different skillset than what you're used to (1v9'ing).

You can address it from a pick standpoint (having them play easy brainless heroes with decent impact, like tide+lich), or having them sacrifice their own growth (since they'll feed anyway) to put you in a strong position. I,e blowing all 3 smokes mid during laning phase, getting a bunch of stacks for you if applicable. Then just pick heroes you're good with that can play 1v9 effectively - slark, storm, tb, am, ember, etc.

Them feeding is likely not the real issue; it's them feeding without compensation to you. If you engineer it right them feeding will just give you more comeback gold since you'll be in a commanding position and the enemy are also clowns.
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nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-22 22:23:30
July 22 2016 22:20 GMT
#24017
here's the difference, he's playing with friends. it's not really 1v9.
at any point in time like it or not, he's living with them in this game.

people who are actually unable to learn or improve are few and far between. gaming might attract people who have poor self-improvement skills, but that doesn't concern you in the long run. why not? because for a few minutes each game, you can teach them. it doesn't take much, the impact is large, and you can give them homework to take home.

if they are not interested in learning or getting better, or listening even,
and you are concerned about winning or having a good game, then stop playing with them. make it clear the reason and think about yourself and what you've been saying to them objectively.

i have the experience of recommending easy heroes to friends while we're playing together. there are a lot of experiences in life that are similar to this. it's not a good feeling to do it, nor is it good to be on the receiving end. the self-paved solution is realizing that you just suck and that it's all conducive to changing that.

i get that there are people who are bad at talking or playing and talking at the same time.
but if you care for your friends and their enjoyment of the game, do them a favor and talk it out nicely. at least you can say you tried.
*@boesthius' FF7 nostalgia stream bomb* "we should work on a 'Final Progamer' fangame»whitera can be a protagonist---lastlie: "we save world and then defense it"
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-24 18:32:43
July 24 2016 18:30 GMT
#24018
Well, i don't think they don't really lack game knowledge (for 2k mmr at least), their item builds are kinda ok, they know they shouldn't single pull etc. It's more like mechanics and on the spot decision making that's lacking and I can't really help them with that. And I don't really want to be pointing out every little mistake which can get annoying, I'm doing it sometimes but it feels a bit stressing for them and for me.

Yeah I should probably pick more 1v5 friendly heroes, I'm not used to playing those though (I play mostly offlane/support usually when solo). Any tips on what to learn? I'm to learn invoker atm, but i'm not 100% confident with him right now like i'm confident with say clockwerk or something like that.
Romanes eunt domus
kapibara-san
Profile Joined July 2016
Japan415 Posts
July 24 2016 18:31 GMT
#24019
tiny?
tfw your posting style is obnoxious to everybody else but strangely compelling to you... like a fart...
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-30 18:18:55
July 30 2016 18:13 GMT
#24020
I have not really played this game consistently since last August, if you don't count two matches back in March. Most of the people I was playing with stopped playing and I had some other responsibilities to take care of and stopped playing. However, sometimes I really want to get into the scene (and the game itself) again but then I feel scared because I have no idea what the meta is, what heroes are good or what they do. I'm worried I'm going to feed and play like a noob. My steam profile shows 2833 hours played for Dota 2, which is kind of a lot but I'm still worried. Can someone give me quick summary about this so maybe I can get ready for TI6?
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
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