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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-15 20:18:15
October 15 2015 20:15 GMT
#23061
Ice Blast in DotA 1 had weird non-straightforward interaction with dispels. Damage/HP freeze was a dispellable debuff while the shatter trigger was managed with an aura that reapplied the damage/HP freeze if no damage was taken after being dispelled, but would go away if damage was taken before the aura sticky duration passed.

DotA 2 made Ice Blast straight undispellable because the original interaction was awful.
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Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
October 15 2015 22:53 GMT
#23062
if you cold embrace an invis ally do they become visible? are the cold embrace effects visible but the hero themself still invis?
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
October 15 2015 23:12 GMT
#23063
iirc, the cold embrace is more or less a debuff that holds the player still. that means that it shouldn't break invisibility since that requires a player to attack or cast a spell/item.

this is one of the reasons glimmer cape is good on this hero, not only does it provide magic dmg resistance, but forces the other team to use detection in order to nuke the hero before he gets healed.
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75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
October 16 2015 08:42 GMT
#23064
the last weeks i experience huge lag spikes in some of my games (10-20%). in those games i can play normal but randomly i cant controll my hero (up to 5 seconds).
reconnecting doenst work for me.

did anyone experience that aswell? normally i dont have any lags at all.
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-16 08:48:37
October 16 2015 08:48 GMT
#23065
On October 16 2015 17:42 75 wrote:
the last weeks i experience huge lag spikes in some of my games (10-20%). in those games i can play normal but randomly i cant controll my hero (up to 5 seconds).
reconnecting doenst work for me.


and is it better this week?

see: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/3oq06n/ongoing_connection_issue_with_reborn/cvzmmmn
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
75
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany4057 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-16 09:14:23
October 16 2015 09:13 GMT
#23066
On October 16 2015 17:48 ahswtini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 17:42 75 wrote:
the last weeks i experience huge lag spikes in some of my games (10-20%). in those games i can play normal but randomly i cant controll my hero (up to 5 seconds).
reconnecting doenst work for me.


and is it better this week?

see: https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/3oq06n/ongoing_connection_issue_with_reborn/cvzmmmn

nah, just had a game like that.

but i guess it will be fixed soon
thanks for the reply
yo twitch, as long as I can watch 480p lagfree I'm happy
unsaeglich
Profile Joined June 2015
260 Posts
October 16 2015 09:49 GMT
#23067
On October 16 2015 17:42 75 wrote:
the last weeks i experience huge lag spikes in some of my games (10-20%). in those games i can play normal but randomly i cant controll my hero (up to 5 seconds).
reconnecting doenst work for me.

did anyone experience that aswell? normally i dont have any lags at all.

yup. We are both from Germany, maybe they fucked up the connection there for a while. I usually have a 30> ping, but my game spiked up to 300 constantly. That was two days ago, yesterday I only played in the evening and it was fine again. My network was totally fine. Reconnecting didn't work for me either.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
October 16 2015 12:56 GMT
#23068
i'm not sure if it fixes this exact issue, but adding an exception for the steam folder to windows defender has seemed to solve some people's reborn issues
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
October 16 2015 14:19 GMT
#23069
can you dodge alc selfstun with ulti?
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
October 16 2015 14:39 GMT
#23070
i dont think alc ult transformation has invincible frames?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7042 Posts
October 16 2015 14:59 GMT
#23071
It does have a transformation window where you can disjoint projectiles but I don't think it's possible to stop self stun though because the self stun can't be disjointed.

It's worth trying out in a lobby
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
October 16 2015 15:07 GMT
#23072
It was possible in DotA1, but transformation stun-dodging works very differently in DotA2 compared to DotA1. Mostly, transformations either lost their stun-dodging ability (basically all low-CD transformations), or became simple disjoints. Alch ulti is one of the latter category.
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makmeatt
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
2024 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-16 15:11:33
October 16 2015 15:09 GMT
#23073
On October 16 2015 23:39 ahswtini wrote:
i dont think alc ult transformation has invincible frames?

It does, I just dodged Magic Missle on the first try.
I'm not sure if you can dodge the self stun though. I thought I saw someone doing this successfully way back, but I can't reproduce this now and there's something about Concoction being an aoe stun and Alche not being able to disjoint aoe stuns in D2 (which was, notably, confirmed a bug two years ago).
Edit: Yango'd.
"Silver Edge can't break my hope" - Kryptt 2016 || "Chrono is not a debuff, you just get rekt" - Guru 2016
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
October 16 2015 15:29 GMT
#23074
On October 17 2015 00:09 makmeatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2015 23:39 ahswtini wrote:
i dont think alc ult transformation has invincible frames?

It does, I just dodged Magic Missle on the first try.
I'm not sure if you can dodge the self stun though. I thought I saw someone doing this successfully way back, but I can't reproduce this now and there's something about Concoction being an aoe stun and Alche not being able to disjoint aoe stuns in D2 (which was, notably, confirmed a bug two years ago).
Edit: Yango'd.

u disjointed magic missile, thats all, and u dont even need good timing, just use chemical rage after the magic missile has been casted.

concoction is not disjointable by any means.

dont mistake abilities that disjoint with abilities that have invincible frames. some have both (like mirror image type abilities)
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
October 16 2015 15:54 GMT
#23075
On October 13 2015 14:03 BoZiffer wrote:
Is semi-carry Abbadon a thing? How can you do it well?

0-4-4, skilling as is necessary per the lane. Treads madness mael basher; if you're getting controlled too hard you might need bkb before or after basher. Abyssal, Mjolnir, MKB, Heart, Halberd are all decent options after that.
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 16 2015 16:22 GMT
#23076
i think phase is almost always better
also oov is really good
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
October 16 2015 18:04 GMT
#23077
Are you guys getting game client out of date but cannot update bug?
Stuck.
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
October 16 2015 18:20 GMT
#23078
On October 17 2015 03:04 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Are you guys getting game client out of date but cannot update bug?

ya just click play, its fine

its to do with some backend update thing that doesnt change anything but the client thinks theres an update when there isnt
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-16 22:05:56
October 16 2015 22:05 GMT
#23079
On October 17 2015 01:22 Dead9 wrote:
i think phase is almost always better
also oov is really good

wow man that build sounds sick nasty
i'll be sure to try it out in my next pub game
thx for the tips man
Mecha King Ghidorah
Profile Joined April 2014
United States595 Posts
October 17 2015 14:20 GMT
#23080
How does one deal with windcancer? I have had it up to my neck with the hero and need some advice. Heres the match.
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/1871948262

Should I maybe have gotten MKB instead of Skadi first?
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