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I dont think blocking your hard camp is the way to go on either side. Thats not what makes him strong. What makes him strong is the new W which makes him incredibly hard to take down on early levels. If he can get to ~lvl 5 hes pretty much unkillable for a duo lane and maybe very hard to kill for trilanes too. And when he gets 6 he can solo kills lots of stuff with W+R.
As for how to deal with him. If you have any kill potential at all, try to kill him on early levels. Once he starts to get levels into W he's becoming way way way harder to kill. Some Dooms autoskill Devour lvl 1, which makes him very killable. Even if they skill W, you might have a chance on lvl 1 or 2. However if you dont have any kill potential (which is often the case with pub duo safelanes), play defensive and just try to pull and farm. Way too many duo lanes try to go aggro on Doom and then Doom hits W, turns around and kills them. God the amount of 1v2 kills I've seen this patch..... The better way is likely to push the lane and stack and pull so he cant contest the pull. At the very least you'll be denying him exp that way. If the pull camp is blocked, sucks to be you, prepare for Doom to have a great lane.
Later in the game healing is the way to go. Any healing helps really. I like Abaddon because it forces Doom to either Doom a support (which is a win in itself) or that support will keep the doomed target alive. Other healers like Dazzle, Omni, etc are good too although they dont have Abas single target healing. Another great option is Juggs healing ward. Other options also include Chen sendback and Wisp relocate to base. Theres probably more good options.
If you dont have anything particular like that available, be prepared to fight 4v5 many fights. Its not impossible, many heroes can fight ok even Doomed or you can disengage and wait for Doom to end. But it certainly makes it harder.
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On October 21 2015 17:38 ahswtini wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2015 16:47 evilfatsh1t wrote:On October 21 2015 15:22 Verniy wrote:On October 21 2015 15:18 evilfatsh1t wrote:
was there a way to zoom the camera out in dota?
after playing some lol ive realised my camera in dota is zoomed in as fuck
lol really has much better camera view than dota imo. wish there was a way to make dota's camera more like lol's mousewheel yeah im obviously talking about zooming out past the default setting... no, that would be zoomhacking
if only.....
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
On October 21 2015 18:25 evilfatsh1t wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2015 17:38 ahswtini wrote:On October 21 2015 16:47 evilfatsh1t wrote:On October 21 2015 15:22 Verniy wrote:On October 21 2015 15:18 evilfatsh1t wrote:
was there a way to zoom the camera out in dota?
after playing some lol ive realised my camera in dota is zoomed in as fuck
lol really has much better camera view than dota imo. wish there was a way to make dota's camera more like lol's mousewheel yeah im obviously talking about zooming out past the default setting... no, that would be zoomhacking if only.....
theres a reason games have fixed zoom
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if a hero is euls up (by an enemy euls) and on 1hp for argument sake, is there a timing where u can heal that hero when he lands (with a click spell like omni heal stolen by rubick etc something) before he dies
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shouldn't be
note that rubick stolen spells have a 0.1s cast speed not 0. It feels fast as fuck but it's definitely too slow
mek or bkb on the cycloned hero might work on account of items going off truly instantly when u land (like BKB in icepath etc).
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SoCal8910 Posts
but with cyclones, you're not actually removed from the map a la astral imprisonment.
can't you heal the person mid air and have it still affect them?
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On October 22 2015 03:09 BluemoonSC wrote:
but with cyclones, you're not actually removed from the map a la astral imprisonment.
can't you heal the person mid air and have it still affect them?
u generally cant target invulnerable units (there are exceptions like diffusal on cyclone)
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SoCal8910 Posts
correct, but what about mek and heals that can reach a unit that's not targeted. for example, dazzle's heal prioritizes heroes. will it still reach heroes affected by cyclone?
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someone remind me what happened to calibration
i remember reading somewhere that they capped it at ~4.5k, is that true?
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Northern Ireland22208 Posts
i heard it was capped at 4.8, who knows
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On October 22 2015 04:28 BluemoonSC wrote:
correct, but what about mek and heals that can reach a unit that's not targeted. for example, dazzle's heal prioritizes heroes. will it still reach heroes affected by cyclone?
mek heals cyclone
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When exactly does invokers alacrity buff come in effect? As in, if i cast it as the projectile is flying will the hit have added dmg or does the buff have to be applied before the attack?
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On October 22 2015 23:12 bruuuuu wrote:
When exactly does invokers alacrity buff come in effect? As in, if i cast it as the projectile is flying will the hit have added dmg or does the buff have to be applied before the attack?
It has to be applied before the attack
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Note that AA chilling touch can be cast with the attack in the air.
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On October 23 2015 04:08 Sn0_Man wrote:
Note that AA chilling touch can be cast with the attack in the air.
perhaps it's a common feature of attack effects that are only "expended" when they successfully hit. like storm's overloard
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So Ursa's ult is 80% dmg reduction.
Centaur Warrunner's ult is 60% dmg reduction with aghs.
How do they interact? Is it like evasion with diminishing returns?
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On October 23 2015 12:16 bdonballer wrote:
So Ursa's ult is 80% dmg reduction.
Centaur Warrunner's ult is 60% dmg reduction with aghs.
How do they interact? Is it like evasion with diminishing returns?
i think damage reduction of that kind is actually additive
so stirahgt up 100% damage reduction
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I wonder how that would interact with Abaddon ult. Would he not get healed since he's not taking damage?
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Abaddon's ult heals based on damage after reductions, but before other abilities that prevent damage outright like Aphotic Shield.
So no, Abaddon would not get healed from damage that had 100% reduction.
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How do you deal with bb
I honestly have no idea, none. What do you do in lane, how do you put your supports even close to him, what helps against him in teamfights, who counters him, I have no idea how to do anything against him help
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