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AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-22 06:19:49
August 22 2011 06:15 GMT
#201
To be fair though there are few things sexier then sleep into a 5 sec PotM arrow.

Also I think more people would play Bane if it was a Succubus in leather with a whip like in HoN.
iloveroo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada294 Posts
August 22 2011 06:19 GMT
#202
Hi, I currently play League of Legends with my friends for fun, occasionally play ranked games, I've always loved Dota, but never played it, sounds silly I know. Since its kind of useless to buy Dota or w/e, I was just wondering if I should just play Heros of Newerth (HoN) get use to the gameplay since it is very similar to Dota then play Dota 2 when it comes out.

I would just like to state again that I have no experience in either Dota or HoN, but I have experience in that kind of game genre.
Should I play HoN to learn the basics of it since it is very similar to Dota then play Dota 2..
I thought doing this would make me not as bad as I will be when I start playing Dota 2, is this a good idea, give me your suggestions please!! Thanks
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
August 22 2011 06:23 GMT
#203
You could play either wc3 or HoN. It will be easier to fit in as a noob in HoN I'd imagine, because it just went f2p. Also it will have some conveniences that will make it easier to learn, like qwer hotkeys and shop interface that Dota 2 will implement as well.

However, HoN is still missing a lot of Dota heroes and has many of it's own that aren't in Dota. Also, all the items are named differently which will be a bit annoying.

Personally I'd go HoN but it's not clear cut.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
August 22 2011 06:30 GMT
#204
On August 22 2011 15:19 iloveroo wrote:
Hi, I currently play League of Legends with my friends for fun, occasionally play ranked games, I've always loved Dota, but never played it, sounds silly I know. Since its kind of useless to buy Dota or w/e, I was just wondering if I should just play Heros of Newerth (HoN) get use to the gameplay since it is very similar to Dota then play Dota 2 when it comes out.

I would just like to state again that I have no experience in either Dota or HoN, but I have experience in that kind of game genre.
Should I play HoN to learn the basics of it since it is very similar to Dota then play Dota 2..
I thought doing this would make me not as bad as I will be when I start playing Dota 2, is this a good idea, give me your suggestions please!! Thanks


HoN is a fine choice but you need to know what 'not' to learn. A lots of heroes and items in HoN are different or modified from DotA which make the meta game a lot different. Also there are some mechanic that you can only find in DotA and some of those are game changer. Just play what ever you like and keep in mind that they are 2 different games.
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Kahzaar
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden897 Posts
August 22 2011 07:00 GMT
#205
On August 21 2011 16:58 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 16:47 hYdrA-MeNo wrote:
Where can i get Dota????


First you need Warcraft 3: The Frozen Throne. You can either buy it, or.... you know.... what 90% of people who play dota did who don't really want to pay for the game they don't play anyway. Then you need to download the map from getdota.com Last thing you need is a client where to play it. Some of the most popular are: Garena, Ranked Gaming Client, Dotalicious. Just google it.

I can recommend Darer. I used to play on Garena but switched to Darer when it was launched since It has a ladder (pro/fun) and saves stas. Also, I think the mym and navi guys play there.
lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
August 22 2011 09:20 GMT
#206
On August 22 2011 15:19 iloveroo wrote:
Hi, I currently play League of Legends with my friends for fun, occasionally play ranked games, I've always loved Dota, but never played it, sounds silly I know. Since its kind of useless to buy Dota or w/e, I was just wondering if I should just play Heros of Newerth (HoN) get use to the gameplay since it is very similar to Dota then play Dota 2 when it comes out.

I would just like to state again that I have no experience in either Dota or HoN, but I have experience in that kind of game genre.
Should I play HoN to learn the basics of it since it is very similar to Dota then play Dota 2..
I thought doing this would make me not as bad as I will be when I start playing Dota 2, is this a good idea, give me your suggestions please!! Thanks


WC3 is cheap as chips, I'd be surprised if you couldn't pick up a second hand copy for a few quid. And hate to break it to you, LoL and DotA have about as much in common as goldeneye and counterstrike do. Playing HoN will help a bit, but quite a lot of people really dislike the way it looks. If you want to play dota2 well - get dota, if you just want to have fun with your mates - there'll be a matchmaking system anyway. You could play HoN if you want, but if you're going to the extent of starting to play a new game, to learn to play a different game, why not just do it right?
For every battle honour a thousand heroes die alone, unsung, and unremembered.
Streltsy
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada98 Posts
August 22 2011 11:47 GMT
#207
Question about hotkeys (from a HoN player):
Recently I've gotten into playing creep controlling heroes (Ophelia, Tundra, Warbeast, etc.) and the hotkeys I bind to my creeps and hero 'stick' even after death. For example, I bind Tundra+puzzlebox minions+Coeurl to 1 and even after those minions die, next time I summon they're still bound to 1 without me having to do anything.
So, do hotkeys 'stick' like this in DotA?

It would be a real bitch if they didn't.
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
August 22 2011 11:59 GMT
#208
On August 22 2011 20:47 Streltsy wrote:
Question about hotkeys (from a HoN player):
Recently I've gotten into playing creep controlling heroes (Ophelia, Tundra, Warbeast, etc.) and the hotkeys I bind to my creeps and hero 'stick' even after death. For example, I bind Tundra+puzzlebox minions+Coeurl to 1 and even after those minions die, next time I summon they're still bound to 1 without me having to do anything.
So, do hotkeys 'stick' like this in DotA?

It would be a real bitch if they didn't.


They don't, I guess you will have to get used to hotkeying them each time. It's hardly surprising WC3 doesn't do this considering how old it is. >_> Ofc, can't say anything about dota2.
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
August 22 2011 14:21 GMT
#209
Here's a random one, and sorry if it's already been asked: did they really give all heroes a flat damage or does is the attack damage displayed simply the average of the heroes' damage range?
XnG_777
Profile Joined June 2011
713 Posts
August 22 2011 14:49 GMT
#210
On August 22 2011 23:21 theqat wrote:
Here's a random one, and sorry if it's already been asked: did they really give all heroes a flat damage or does is the attack damage displayed simply the average of the heroes' damage range?



Nothing is confirmed, but we can safely assume that it's flat.

XnG_777
Profile Joined June 2011
713 Posts
August 22 2011 14:52 GMT
#211
What was the team who banned axe and in what game?
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
August 22 2011 22:38 GMT
#212
On August 22 2011 23:49 XnG_777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 23:21 theqat wrote:
Here's a random one, and sorry if it's already been asked: did they really give all heroes a flat damage or does is the attack damage displayed simply the average of the heroes' damage range?



Nothing is confirmed, but we can safely assume that it's flat.


I disagree, I'd think they'd keep it as a range like it's always been and simple have an average so it looks cleaner. My assumption is different, but yes, nothing is confirmed.

And to the other guy asking, HoN will prepare you far more for DotA2 than LoL will, to find out what's similar and what's changed see the thread in the OP.
5-s
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1674 Posts
August 23 2011 02:05 GMT
#213
On August 23 2011 07:38 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 23:49 XnG_777 wrote:
On August 22 2011 23:21 theqat wrote:
Here's a random one, and sorry if it's already been asked: did they really give all heroes a flat damage or does is the attack damage displayed simply the average of the heroes' damage range?



Nothing is confirmed, but we can safely assume that it's flat.


I disagree, I'd think they'd keep it as a range like it's always been and simple have an average so it looks cleaner. My assumption is different, but yes, nothing is confirmed.

And to the other guy asking, HoN will prepare you far more for DotA2 than LoL will, to find out what's similar and what's changed see the thread in the OP.

It's confirmed NOT flat. There's a range, it just shows the average, which is for the most part just fine.
I liked Dota before it was Mainstream.
DotADeMoN
Profile Joined June 2010
United States517 Posts
August 23 2011 02:25 GMT
#214
On August 22 2011 23:52 XnG_777 wrote:
What was the team who banned axe and in what game?

One of the Chinese teams banned Pudge/Axe vs Mineski in group stages. Standard Chinese overconfidence.
MDMA_
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada265 Posts
August 23 2011 21:38 GMT
#215
On August 23 2011 11:25 FawkingGoomba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 23:52 XnG_777 wrote:
What was the team who banned axe and in what game?

One of the Chinese teams banned Pudge/Axe vs Mineski in group stages. Standard Chinese overconfidence.


lmao how is that standard chinese confidence mineski went 0-3 in the group stages which is when u claimed they made those bans.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
August 24 2011 10:31 GMT
#216
On August 24 2011 06:38 MDMA_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 11:25 FawkingGoomba wrote:
On August 22 2011 23:52 XnG_777 wrote:
What was the team who banned axe and in what game?

One of the Chinese teams banned Pudge/Axe vs Mineski in group stages. Standard Chinese overconfidence.


lmao how is that standard chinese confidence mineski went 0-3 in the group stages which is when u claimed they made those bans.

Hmm, I'd be interested to see the full bans/picks to see if that had some sort of tactical reason rather than just dickery.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11839 Posts
August 24 2011 15:13 GMT
#217
On August 24 2011 19:31 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 06:38 MDMA_ wrote:
On August 23 2011 11:25 FawkingGoomba wrote:
On August 22 2011 23:52 XnG_777 wrote:
What was the team who banned axe and in what game?

One of the Chinese teams banned Pudge/Axe vs Mineski in group stages. Standard Chinese overconfidence.


lmao how is that standard chinese confidence mineski went 0-3 in the group stages which is when u claimed they made those bans.

Hmm, I'd be interested to see the full bans/picks to see if that had some sort of tactical reason rather than just dickery.


http://dota2.com/tournaments/international/game/110 Watch and see for yourself. They banned axe/pudge. I feel like they threw away their bans since they had a strat they wanted to do that involved some heroes that risked being banned. Not sure that is what they ended up playing though.
XnG_777
Profile Joined June 2011
713 Posts
August 24 2011 22:42 GMT
#218
On August 25 2011 00:13 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 19:31 Ruscour wrote:
On August 24 2011 06:38 MDMA_ wrote:
On August 23 2011 11:25 FawkingGoomba wrote:
On August 22 2011 23:52 XnG_777 wrote:
What was the team who banned axe and in what game?

One of the Chinese teams banned Pudge/Axe vs Mineski in group stages. Standard Chinese overconfidence.


lmao how is that standard chinese confidence mineski went 0-3 in the group stages which is when u claimed they made those bans.

Hmm, I'd be interested to see the full bans/picks to see if that had some sort of tactical reason rather than just dickery.


http://dota2.com/tournaments/international/game/110 Watch and see for yourself. They banned axe/pudge. I feel like they threw away their bans since they had a strat they wanted to do that involved some heroes that risked being banned. Not sure that is what they ended up playing though.



They banned axe & pudge first and second, then took storm spirit, lina and sven...
Yeah we can safely assume they were just dicking around.
Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
August 25 2011 17:28 GMT
#219
I have a question. Is Clinkz used at all in competitive play? I just reinstalled W3 and got the newest dota map. Played a game on dotacash and remembered why i had so much fun with this game years ago. I also remember that Clinkz was one of the most fun i had. Never followed the competitive scene until now hence my question.
"Daaayyyy9, King Pussyfoot of NinnyVille"- Day9 while playing Amnesia
lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
August 25 2011 17:38 GMT
#220
Not really afaik, I'm not particularly sure why - he has enormous dps with his ulti, reasonable survivability, and medallion fits him like a glove.
For every battle honour a thousand heroes die alone, unsung, and unremembered.
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