EPTIt's a pretty neat site to train/memorize his spells with some additional features.
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phrenetiC
Switzerland224 Posts
It's a pretty neat site to train/memorize his spells with some additional features. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34492 Posts
On January 31 2013 06:23 phrenetiC wrote: You might want to add invokergame.com to your guide. It's a pretty neat site to train/memorize his spells with some additional features. Oh yes, thanks for reminding me. I wrote this guide before that existed and people will still using the Dropbox version. | ||
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MSGHero
United States147 Posts
Blew my mind. I've been getting a midas after phase cuz I saw koreya do it, and it's nice; my only concern against it is if I'll need to gtfo of something early on, like pudge or ns. + Show Spoiler + I sometimes find myself staring at my keyboard after tornado-meteor-deaf blast wondering what else I can do..."uhhlacrity...oh I have cold snap still...ah! ice wa--aww the fight's over." | ||
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34492 Posts
On February 07 2013 18:10 Jetaap wrote: I dont know if it was discussed already, but I dont really understand why you dont recommend eul scepter on QE invoker, I think it helps a lot with invoker mana issues, and allows to set up sunstrikes/meteors on your own, which is really useful I feel. It's a valid option if you go for the Sunstrike + Meteor + Blast combo, but isn't that good if you are going for standard QE. I guess I can slip it into the Optional items but Force into Sheep/Aghs are much stronger. | ||
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nebffa
Australia776 Posts
One thing you may want to add to the guide is when some situations where QW is stronger than QE, and vice-versa, depending on the hero you vs in mid. For example, after a lot of games I have found that if I vs a Shadow Fiend mid QE is a much stronger choice whereas vs a Storm Spirit I don't need the extra damage as much and QW may be more appropriate. Then again this is my opinion and you may disagree but if it makes sense perhaps it may help for people to know as I often see people defaulting to QE Invoker when they could still do fine with QW. Thanks | ||
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hooahah
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Cyx.
Canada806 Posts
His DPS output is INSANE with forge spirits armor reduction/alacrity/exort/crit, and if you follow it up with mjol/daed/heart/skadi/sheep etc. you can still have more than enough mana to use all your spells in teamfights while also providing a pretty brutal rightclick presence from minute 15 until the end of the game. It seems less trolly than a WE Invoker build (ie. you still have the mana pool to cast most of your spells, even if you do have to manage it a lot better, since you're not casting as many of them in the midgame and lategame you have a massive mana pool from stats) while still managing to provide more secondary DPS in the midgame and lategame than most other mids are comparable with (with the exception of SF and such heroes). I feel like if you're going to be outcarried in the lategame this is one of the best things a mid Invoker can do to provide tons of lategame presence without sacrificing too much midgame and I wanted to know how you felt about it. | ||
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China13814 Posts
On February 13 2013 09:44 nebffa wrote: Hey I just wanted to say thanks for the guide. I'm a long time DotA player (since 5.60b), was very good back then, took a break for a few years after 2008. Came back to DotA 2 and found a lot had changed - AKA everyone got a whole lot better and wow I suck these days... goddamnit. Pudge and Shadow Fiend getting picked ALL THE TIME as well and they often pwn the shit out of the game so I thought, ok I know I don't think I'm good enough for mid these days, but it's time to learn a mid hero that can wrestle control for mid from these pubstars. I thought of which heroes I should learn but your guide made me pick Invoker. Thanks for the simple, no-nonsense guide to his skill and item builds. It took some practice to get the hang of but imo your guide is very good and if anyone asks me how to play Invoker I will be referring them to this guide as it's where I learnt pretty much everything from. One thing you may want to add to the guide is when some situations where QW is stronger than QE, and vice-versa, depending on the hero you vs in mid. For example, after a lot of games I have found that if I vs a Shadow Fiend mid QE is a much stronger choice whereas vs a Storm Spirit I don't need the extra damage as much and QW may be more appropriate. Then again this is my opinion and you may disagree but if it makes sense perhaps it may help for people to know as I often see people defaulting to QE Invoker when they could still do fine with QW. Thanks I'm sure Invoker is quite strong in pubs, but he's actually a relatively weak laner nowadays. The base damage nerf hit him really hard and it's almost impossible to outcs any decent mid if you're not going exort. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34492 Posts
On March 04 2013 05:25 hooahah wrote: FB, how do you feel about delaying the third point in Invoke? mostly to get earlier 4 points in quas/exort Not sure I understand, your third point in invoke comes at level 12, you should already have 4 quas 4 exort 1 wex by then. | ||
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hooahah
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hooahah
3752 Posts
Radiant ancients with <6~ midas timing... | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34492 Posts
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randombum
United States2378 Posts
Does have the added use of actually contributing to lanes a tiny bit with sunstrike though. So | ||
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734pot
Australia294 Posts
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deadmau
960 Posts
On June 23 2013 08:58 734pot wrote: You can jungle on dire by cutting a path above the medium camp. You auto attack the medium camp and then stack the small camp and kill it with meteor. Its actually pretty decent in terms of leveling. Wow, so you're saying invoker can jungle decently? Even if invoker can be doing this ancient farming, should he be? Or is this just an alternative source of farm that you can take advantage of if other spots are not possible? | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34492 Posts
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734pot
Australia294 Posts
A build I've been trying out for mid invoker is just to get a point in exort at lvl 1 and then just going full QW afterwards. I only really do this if I have a pretty unfavourable mid match up and I really feel like going QW. I usually get less points in Q than I normally would, but I start with a RoP to build into tranquils to offset the lower regen. No idea if this would be viable at higher levels, but I've found having alacrity and deafening blast early on to be pretty useful. | ||
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hooahah
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