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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28088 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-20 11:33:06
December 20 2015 11:32 GMT
#281
On December 20 2015 20:30 Shock710 wrote:
isnt it easy now too not mess up the overmorphing on str in fights now, its so quikc u just tap it on and than off, and see if u need to do it again.

Well most Morphs literally just hit it and leave it on for 5-10 seconds, lol

Also yea Beesa I wasn't recommending Eblade first or anything
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Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
December 20 2015 11:36 GMT
#282
On December 20 2015 20:32 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 20:30 Shock710 wrote:
isnt it easy now too not mess up the overmorphing on str in fights now, its so quikc u just tap it on and than off, and see if u need to do it again.

Well most Morphs literally just hit it and leave it on for 5-10 seconds, lol

Also yea Beesa I wasn't recommending Eblade first or anything

i think eblade is always nice to get after linkens, even if im having a good game i like the ability to burst people instead of just going straight skadi/hotd or manta (after linkens).
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
December 20 2015 11:39 GMT
#283
On December 20 2015 20:36 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 20:32 TheEmulator wrote:
On December 20 2015 20:30 Shock710 wrote:
isnt it easy now too not mess up the overmorphing on str in fights now, its so quikc u just tap it on and than off, and see if u need to do it again.

Well most Morphs literally just hit it and leave it on for 5-10 seconds, lol

Also yea Beesa I wasn't recommending Eblade first or anything

i think eblade is always nice to get after linkens, even if im having a good game i like the ability to burst people instead of just going straight skadi/hotd or manta (after linkens).

i almost always get eblade after linkens no reason not to
ppl are like but yeah sometimes u cant 1shot stuff
doesnt matter u still oneshot them if they get to 80% hp
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
December 20 2015 11:42 GMT
#284
On December 20 2015 20:39 ChunderBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 20:36 Shock710 wrote:
On December 20 2015 20:32 TheEmulator wrote:
On December 20 2015 20:30 Shock710 wrote:
isnt it easy now too not mess up the overmorphing on str in fights now, its so quikc u just tap it on and than off, and see if u need to do it again.

Well most Morphs literally just hit it and leave it on for 5-10 seconds, lol

Also yea Beesa I wasn't recommending Eblade first or anything

i think eblade is always nice to get after linkens, even if im having a good game i like the ability to burst people instead of just going straight skadi/hotd or manta (after linkens).

i almost always get eblade after linkens no reason not to
ppl are like but yeah sometimes u cant 1shot stuff
doesnt matter u still oneshot them if they get to 80% hp

if they had an abundance of silence would u ever put manta before the eblade? i lost a game where i think i could have gone manta
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
December 20 2015 11:43 GMT
#285
On December 20 2015 20:42 Shock710 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2015 20:39 ChunderBoy wrote:
On December 20 2015 20:36 Shock710 wrote:
On December 20 2015 20:32 TheEmulator wrote:
On December 20 2015 20:30 Shock710 wrote:
isnt it easy now too not mess up the overmorphing on str in fights now, its so quikc u just tap it on and than off, and see if u need to do it again.

Well most Morphs literally just hit it and leave it on for 5-10 seconds, lol

Also yea Beesa I wasn't recommending Eblade first or anything

i think eblade is always nice to get after linkens, even if im having a good game i like the ability to burst people instead of just going straight skadi/hotd or manta (after linkens).

i almost always get eblade after linkens no reason not to
ppl are like but yeah sometimes u cant 1shot stuff
doesnt matter u still oneshot them if they get to 80% hp

if they had an abundance of silence would u ever put manta before the eblade? i lost a game where i think i could have gone manta

depends on the situation honestly
but if enemy have eearly orchid on invoker and hes like ghost walking looking for kills
ghost scepter is enough to survive
also staying at higher str is good but im guilty of not doing it
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 21 2015 00:45 GMT
#286
beesa are you primarily playing morph mid or safelane
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
December 21 2015 04:10 GMT
#287
beesa is safelane player

idk if my keyboard or fingers are retarded, but i keep failing to double tap morph when i just want a bit of stat change. and it's so easy to overshoot with the new morph rate
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 23 2015 16:00 GMT
#288
With the new nerfs to bottle, is it worth it on the hero? I can see it to restore mana, but you only get one wave form out of a full bottle when its maxed.

And how do people feel about mangos as a starting item? I found them useful for emergency mana to morph at lower levels. But I have like 4 games total on this hero.

Finally, how do people deal with this hero being so slow? Is the casual yasha a common thing? Or do people just adapt.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 23 2015 17:15 GMT
#289
I don't think you get bottle anymore, not worth the 660 gold that could go towards faster linkens. My starting items assuming I'm safelane not mid are always RoP, mango, tangoes and then extra regen or branches or w/e depending on what the lane will be.
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-23 17:32:50
December 23 2015 17:32 GMT
#290
i dunno im doing rop tango salve 2branches fairie fire or 3 branches but im sure mango is good too but i like the extra stats/dmg coz that hero does nothing at lvl 1-3 need all the help u can get
i think so far im 7-2 in my 7k pubs
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-23 17:34:49
December 23 2015 17:34 GMT
#291
On December 24 2015 01:00 Plansix wrote:
With the new nerfs to bottle, is it worth it on the hero? I can see it to restore mana, but you only get one wave form out of a full bottle when its maxed.

And how do people feel about mangos as a starting item? I found them useful for emergency mana to morph at lower levels. But I have like 4 games total on this hero.

Finally, how do people deal with this hero being so slow? Is the casual yasha a common thing? Or do people just adapt.

just be slow zzz atleast u can use replicate as a blink when its lvl 11/16
if there is a 6.86c it shud give morph +5ms coz boots and yasha nerfs are stupid for an already slow hero
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 23 2015 17:35 GMT
#292
I think mango might be more useful at the dumpster MMR. Stable lanes where an extra 2 points of damage makes or breaks you are not a thing.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
December 23 2015 19:59 GMT
#293
On December 24 2015 02:35 Plansix wrote:
I think mango might be more useful at the dumpster MMR. Stable lanes where an extra 2 points of damage makes or breaks you are not a thing.


the only reason I disagree with that is bc at the 2k mmr bracket ppl are also terrible at last hitting. if you get like 2 or 3 more last hits than you wouldn't have normally gotten without the extra dmg, then you've made the investment worth it (this goes for any hero).

you can easily get by with a ROP, turning into a basi as well as picking up a wand for mana regen at the side shop (and eventually getting your roa, full wand).

im not sure how much mana you're using early, but I don't think it justifies the mango pick up..i'd fix the reason you need to burn that mana first.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 23 2015 20:11 GMT
#294
Last hitting is not the problem for me at those early levels. I am on a lower level for longer because the support never leaves or single pulls. If I have to wave form away and that leaves very little mana to morph str at low levels. Missing last hits due to the opponent denying is not the issue I have normally.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 23 2015 20:36 GMT
#295
Mango can be really useful at lower levels if they try and dive you under tower, because it means you can waveform over them doing damage while morphing, pop it and use another waveform and get kills
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
December 23 2015 20:46 GMT
#296
On December 24 2015 05:11 Plansix wrote:
Last hitting is not the problem for me at those early levels. I am on a lower level for longer because the support never leaves or single pulls. If I have to wave form away and that leaves very little mana to morph str at low levels. Missing last hits due to the opponent denying is not the issue I have normally.


ok this is a legitimate complaint I can understand, then lol
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 23 2015 21:05 GMT
#297
The lower you get in MMR, the less likely you are to get a solo lane. The struggle is real.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
December 26 2015 15:51 GMT
#298
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2030942687
grab the replay while its still fresh out of the oven
its an example of morph doing morph stuff in high mmr
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-26 17:16:04
December 26 2015 17:15 GMT
#299
Would you go BKB there if you didn't have omni?
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
December 26 2015 17:21 GMT
#300
On December 27 2015 02:15 kollin wrote:
Would you go BKB there if you didn't have omni?

prolly no
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