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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
December 27 2015 23:36 GMT
#321
i think dagon5 refresh wouldve been good, none of their team has bkbs
eth adaptive dagon5 does like 2k damage post reduc or smth ridiculous
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
December 27 2015 23:37 GMT
#322
On December 28 2015 08:27 Longrat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 08:21 ChunderBoy wrote:
On December 28 2015 08:19 Surprise.820 wrote:
Beesa.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2034702132

Morph player is my friend, he seen your replay yesterday and is trying to emulate it. I noted your disdain against butterfly right now and he's wondering what items are a good alternative as a 6th slot against this team. (I suggested BKB but he said he played well and didn't want to get one versus void anyway)

satanic/mkb never get butterfly vs void i mean u just force him into mkb which makes u get rekt coz he has 180 magic dmg bashes and 160 magic dmg ministuns u dont want to convert enemy rightclicks into magic dmg when u have 40 armour do u
when its 74min and almost everyone is 6 slotted game stops being dota anyway

I'm the morph in question, just curious, what do you think of going diffusal as a counter to invoker on morph? Seems good in both an offensive and defensive capability, plus it adds some nice agi to ethereal.

idk if invoker needs to be countered by morph who is already one of the better carries against him
what does diffusal even counter that other items cant?
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
December 27 2015 23:41 GMT
#323
getting silenced doesnt stop u from morphing if ur already morphing, right?
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Longrat
Profile Joined December 2015
Israel2 Posts
December 27 2015 23:42 GMT
#324
On December 28 2015 08:37 ChunderBoy wrote:
idk if invoker needs to be countered by morph who is already one of the better carries against him
what does diffusal even counter that other items cant?

My biggest issue was the fact that invoker just kept running the fuck away from teamfights with ghost walk, so even when we won, we couldn't capitalize on it by getting a kill on him. Couldn't think of a better way to catch him than that. Even though it can't be purged, it could at least slow him down to allow the team to catch up, also the mana burn on high level illusions might be pretty nice to just drain the mana from a naga or riki? idk
Verniy
Profile Joined May 2015
Canada3360 Posts
December 27 2015 23:43 GMT
#325
On December 28 2015 08:41 ahswtini wrote:
getting silenced doesnt stop u from morphing if ur already morphing, right?

the way silence interacts with toggle abilities (including morph) is if you're silenced you can't toggle it on/off, but if it's already on then it stays on
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-27 23:44:14
December 27 2015 23:43 GMT
#326
On December 28 2015 02:19 ChunderBoy wrote:
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On December 28 2015 02:13 Invictus wrote:
hi beesa, would a butterfly after eblades linkens be better or is manta def the straight up better choice?

I keep thinking that butterfly allows me to manfight quicker or maybe im just too greedy for agi gains haha

u want to buy butterfly for almost 6k gold just for 30 agi? evasion is kinda meh when u have 40+ armour anyway
its decent against am as a skadi replacement tho

how do you build against am these days

i feel awkward cause i feel like i need a linkens, a manta, a butterfly, a bkb, etc at the same time and eb feels awkward but necesary IDK anymore i eman i know am has a disadvantage against am but still there must be a better way to play against him
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ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
December 27 2015 23:48 GMT
#327
On December 28 2015 08:43 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 02:19 ChunderBoy wrote:
On December 28 2015 02:13 Invictus wrote:
hi beesa, would a butterfly after eblades linkens be better or is manta def the straight up better choice?

I keep thinking that butterfly allows me to manfight quicker or maybe im just too greedy for agi gains haha

u want to buy butterfly for almost 6k gold just for 30 agi? evasion is kinda meh when u have 40+ armour anyway
its decent against am as a skadi replacement tho

how do you build against am these days

i feel awkward cause i feel like i need a linkens, a manta, a butterfly, a bkb, etc at the same time and eb feels awkward but necesary IDK anymore i eman i know am has a disadvantage against am but still there must be a better way to play against him

same way replace skadi with butterfly or mkb depending on what am is going i think
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
December 28 2015 02:08 GMT
#328
linkens manta

you'd make a lot of liquiddota inhousers insane with a build like that, beesa
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
December 28 2015 04:09 GMT
#329
whats wrong with linkens manta on morph

we're not talking about medusa here
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
December 28 2015 17:07 GMT
#330
dont spread the word about how good this hero is yet i have 75% winrate 9kda only soloq in 7k+ this patch
needs more time before nerfs
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8910 Posts
December 28 2015 18:16 GMT
#331
On December 28 2015 13:09 ahswtini wrote:
whats wrong with linkens manta on morph

we're not talking about medusa here


I've seen the hate spread to other heroes as well.

But don't worry, beesa your secret is safe here.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
Surprise.820
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1276 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-28 19:48:03
December 28 2015 19:47 GMT
#332
On December 29 2015 02:07 ChunderBoy wrote:
dont spread the word about how good this hero is yet i have 75% winrate 9kda only soloq in 7k+ this patch
needs more time before nerfs


you've got a tier 1 player feeding his mmr on a bad hero to divert the attention of reddit front page posts so you're good for now.
Erase and improve
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
December 28 2015 20:17 GMT
#333
On December 29 2015 04:47 Surprise.820 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2015 02:07 ChunderBoy wrote:
dont spread the word about how good this hero is yet i have 75% winrate 9kda only soloq in 7k+ this patch
needs more time before nerfs


you've got a tier 1 player feeding his mmr on a bad hero to divert the attention of reddit front page posts so you're good for now.

I honestly think EE is spamming PA to make people think they will pick that hero in games
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zelphin
Profile Joined April 2014
47 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-29 06:31:23
December 29 2015 06:16 GMT
#334
what about bottle beesa? i remember you always got it last time
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
December 29 2015 13:04 GMT
#335
On December 29 2015 15:16 zelphin wrote:
what about bottle beesa? i remember you always got it last time

i didnt always get it, in fact i barely ever got it
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
December 29 2015 13:46 GMT
#336
bottle keeps getting nerfed, altho u can buy it from sideshop now i guess
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
December 29 2015 15:26 GMT
#337
the most use i can see of the bottle sideshop is to just buy it use it, sell it, buy again and repeat. instead of doing it with a ring or something
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 29 2015 15:28 GMT
#338
Can't you only sell for half price if you use it
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
December 29 2015 15:29 GMT
#339
correct, it's even explicitly mentioned in the patchnotes
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
December 29 2015 15:38 GMT
#340
mb some next level sideshop bottle juke plays
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