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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
December 26 2015 17:25 GMT
#301
ah right is that cos invoker didnt go aghs or just not enough disable otherwise? didnt mean to party u btw sorry xd
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-26 17:28:18
December 26 2015 17:27 GMT
#302
i just hate bkb and only get it if i feel like there is no other way id win the game with morph
manta+linkens can deal with most stuff defensively
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
December 26 2015 17:43 GMT
#303
I saw a Morphling go recently just morph, stats, rushed a helm of the dominator and get an early rosh, then went more stat items like skadi and full right click build. Think that is viable?
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-26 17:58:39
December 26 2015 17:58 GMT
#304
On December 27 2015 02:43 the bear jew wrote:
I saw a Morphling go recently just morph, stats, rushed a helm of the dominator and get an early rosh, then went more stat items like skadi and full right click build. Think that is viable?

it was always done as a meme build its shit
i used to do it too but its not worth
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
ahw
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-26 23:24:59
December 26 2015 23:24 GMT
#305
Do you think Midas fits in to any safe lane morph builds or does that item break his tempo too much?

Morph benefits from the locks moreso than other carries so I always feel I should be going Midas

Although that item seems pretty bad nowadays
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-27 00:40:14
December 27 2015 00:38 GMT
#306
On December 27 2015 08:24 ahw wrote:
Do you think Midas fits in to any safe lane morph builds or does that item break his tempo too much?

Morph benefits from the locks moreso than other carries so I always feel I should be going Midas

Although that item seems pretty bad nowadays

midas doesnt fit into any safelaner since 6.82
very few heroes have midas as a core item
invoker is #1
then arcwarden
maybe od not sure, i think od might be a safelaner in this patch but he can also mid coz he makes support ganks so ez with 4 sec astrals
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
December 27 2015 03:09 GMT
#307
better to just build linkens = mana = more waveforms = faster farming
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44119 Posts
December 27 2015 07:52 GMT
#308
Can SnY be consired as good pickup for morph ? i mean it's good to most right-clicking cores nowadays (i thought sny+skadi would be strong for morph)

like after threads-aquila-bottle ? or just no and manta is just better for morphling ?
this is a quote
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-27 13:33:55
December 27 2015 13:33 GMT
#309
On December 27 2015 16:52 goody153 wrote:
Can SnY be consired as good pickup for morph ? i mean it's good to most right-clicking cores nowadays (i thought sny+skadi would be strong for morph)

like after threads-aquila-bottle ? or just no and manta is just better for morphling ?

no morphling has the strongest manta illusions in the game due to having 300ish agi in late game
1 manta use can destroy a whole t3
manta+linkens makes u too hard to kill
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44119 Posts
December 27 2015 14:54 GMT
#310
i see .. i usually don't built manta anymore unless there's silence or i'm an illusions hero

didn't know morph illu is that strong
ty
this is a quote
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
December 27 2015 17:13 GMT
#311
hi beesa, would a butterfly after eblades linkens be better or is manta def the straight up better choice?

I keep thinking that butterfly allows me to manfight quicker or maybe im just too greedy for agi gains haha
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-27 17:20:18
December 27 2015 17:19 GMT
#312
On December 28 2015 02:13 Invictus wrote:
hi beesa, would a butterfly after eblades linkens be better or is manta def the straight up better choice?

I keep thinking that butterfly allows me to manfight quicker or maybe im just too greedy for agi gains haha

u want to buy butterfly for almost 6k gold just for 30 agi? evasion is kinda meh when u have 40+ armour anyway
its decent against am as a skadi replacement tho
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
December 27 2015 17:21 GMT
#313
On December 27 2015 23:54 goody153 wrote:
i see .. i usually don't built manta anymore unless there's silence or i'm an illusions hero

didn't know morph illu is that strong
ty

its cuz illusions dont benefit from raw damage, only base dmg + dmg from ur primary attribute

because most of morphs damage comes from his agi and not raw dmg, his illusions pack more of a punch too
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
woojaekeem
Profile Joined May 2013
United States524 Posts
December 27 2015 18:39 GMT
#314
what is the best morph build against an am in an even game



ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-27 21:54:26
December 27 2015 21:53 GMT
#315
i imagine bots linkens eblade manta bfly satanic

with probably mkb for am bfly or bkb replacing one of those items
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
December 27 2015 22:27 GMT
#316
On December 28 2015 02:19 ChunderBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 02:13 Invictus wrote:
hi beesa, would a butterfly after eblades linkens be better or is manta def the straight up better choice?

I keep thinking that butterfly allows me to manfight quicker or maybe im just too greedy for agi gains haha

u want to buy butterfly for almost 6k gold just for 30 agi? evasion is kinda meh when u have 40+ armour anyway
its decent against am as a skadi replacement tho


Actually after checking i realise im dumb, manta gives 26 agi and the tip about the manta illusion makes alot of sense. Time to change up my itemisation for abit.

In games that you do not really need linkens, say bunch of aoe spells, what do you use to replace it? Probably skadi i think? Or would you just go for the linkens just to block item based targetted spells like hex?
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
December 27 2015 23:09 GMT
#317
On December 28 2015 07:27 Invictus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 02:19 ChunderBoy wrote:
On December 28 2015 02:13 Invictus wrote:
hi beesa, would a butterfly after eblades linkens be better or is manta def the straight up better choice?

I keep thinking that butterfly allows me to manfight quicker or maybe im just too greedy for agi gains haha

u want to buy butterfly for almost 6k gold just for 30 agi? evasion is kinda meh when u have 40+ armour anyway
its decent against am as a skadi replacement tho


Actually after checking i realise im dumb, manta gives 26 agi and the tip about the manta illusion makes alot of sense. Time to change up my itemisation for abit.

In games that you do not really need linkens, say bunch of aoe spells, what do you use to replace it? Probably skadi i think? Or would you just go for the linkens just to block item based targetted spells like hex?

go linkens
how else do u get hp/mana regen
linkens is like 30 agi 15 dmg on morph so its not bad for dmg
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Surprise.820
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1276 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-27 23:20:38
December 27 2015 23:19 GMT
#318
Beesa.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2034702132

Morph player is my friend, he seen your replay yesterday and is trying to emulate it. I noted your disdain against butterfly right now and he's wondering what items are a good alternative as a 6th slot against this team. (I suggested BKB but he said he played well and didn't want to get one versus void anyway)
Erase and improve
ChunderBoy
Profile Joined August 2011
3242 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-27 23:22:58
December 27 2015 23:21 GMT
#319
On December 28 2015 08:19 Surprise.820 wrote:
Beesa.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2034702132

Morph player is my friend, he seen your replay yesterday and is trying to emulate it. I noted your disdain against butterfly right now and he's wondering what items are a good alternative as a 6th slot against this team. (I suggested BKB but he said he played well and didn't want to get one versus void anyway)

satanic/mkb never get butterfly vs void i mean u just force him into mkb which makes u get rekt coz he has 180 magic dmg bashes and 160 magic dmg ministuns u dont want to convert enemy rightclicks into magic dmg when u have 40 armour do u
when its 74min and almost everyone is 6 slotted game stops being dota anyway
"mmr is a social construct" - tumblr
Longrat
Profile Joined December 2015
Israel2 Posts
December 27 2015 23:27 GMT
#320
On December 28 2015 08:21 ChunderBoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2015 08:19 Surprise.820 wrote:
Beesa.

http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2034702132

Morph player is my friend, he seen your replay yesterday and is trying to emulate it. I noted your disdain against butterfly right now and he's wondering what items are a good alternative as a 6th slot against this team. (I suggested BKB but he said he played well and didn't want to get one versus void anyway)

satanic/mkb never get butterfly vs void i mean u just force him into mkb which makes u get rekt coz he has 180 magic dmg bashes and 160 magic dmg ministuns u dont want to convert enemy rightclicks into magic dmg when u have 40 armour do u
when its 74min and almost everyone is 6 slotted game stops being dota anyway

I'm the morph in question, just curious, what do you think of going diffusal as a counter to invoker on morph? Seems good in both an offensive and defensive capability, plus it adds some nice agi to ethereal.
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