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Aghs is definitely situationally good (IE i got it when there was a pugna on my team the other game, double ward is pretty game changing) but i wouldn't blindly get it unless you just like having fun
Blademail is underrated on this hero given the amount of AOE that tends to exist in games.
Euls is okay - getting it early can be okay sometimes (i've won fights cause of rune purge / disable in fights between that and stun). It honestly depends on how much you need the blink dagger - worth noting the new morph stun is awful since its so easy to dodge, though blink doesn't change that VERY much.
blink is necessary, force is osmetimes good if you need it for your team. Extra points in morph are pretty important at some point.
soul ring tranquils should be standard boot (or just stay on brown boots).
I would max morph by 16 - not worth skipping for 3 points in str / agi and 6 points in int imo when you are already 16.
I'm also of the opinion that offlane morph is much better than support morph given how abusable lanes are these days.
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I might be wrong, but Aghs as a 4th-5th item sounds really good on stats heavy agi morph. I mean according to the text the stats are transferred as well, doesnt that mean that morph get essentially 20 second aegis every 2 mins for 4.2k gold as long as you have a reasonable agi hero in your team? I mean morph doesnt amplify his damage or health in any way aside from morph itself.
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how is the aghs ability like an aegis? the hybrid only deals half damage and can't use morph's items, and if you're heavy into agi the replicate won't have that much strength for survivability. it's not really comparable to actually having a second life as your actual hero
and if you use it in a fight it better be worth being that hero for 20 seconds because you can't manually end it early so you're trapped as a shitty version of your allied hero
not to mention you wont likely have another scaling agi carry if you're carry morph in the first place
pugna ward and tombstone are the only abilities i can actually see as worth getting the aghs for
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You also aren't allowed an active Replicate while in Hybrid form. Stats-wise its basically just a Replicate of yourself that can use skills.
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So with the introduction of 6.86 I began thinking about a new build path for Morphling. I'd like to know what others think of it, it's all on paper so far however.
2 Variations, one with Linken's one with BKB (replace skadi with E. Blade if you want to shotgun)
Linken's Variation; (Ignoring Starting Items) Wraith band--> Treads --> Sange --> Skadi --> SnY --> Linken's --> Manta
BKB Variation; (Ignoring Starting Items) Wraith Band --> Treads --> Dragon's Lance --> Eaglesong --> Mithril Hammer --> (Disassemble Dragon's Lance) BKB --> Butterfly --> Skadi or Manta
Attempting to Pre-Answers questions,
Sange is chosen over Yasha because if you Morph the 16 Strength from Sange you can do more damage with Sange than you can with Yasha over 10 seconds (Calculated at level 9, 4 points in Morph, with Branch,WraithBand,AgiTreads), The difference in damage is below 100, so it's negligible, but I think Maim would be better than the movement speed, the added damage is just a nice bonus to Sange.
Dragon Lance is chosen ONLY because it can be disassembled.
I used a lot of math, and it's not impossible that I could have messed up. If you want to know how I found that Sange does more damage than Yasha (for Morphling alone), I can explain that.
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why on earth would you buy linkens AFTER SnY Skadi?
the whole point of it is to give you the mana regen to use waveform and safety to farm agressively early-midgame. Once you have skadi you aren't concerned about mana very much and you are also very likely to be tanky enough to farm aggressively with replicate anyway. It would take a very specific game to buy Linkens after SnY + Skadi (doom xd).
in the bkb version, regardless of which item you want to complete first I don't think you just buy casual parts of the other one. If you want bkb, buy it. If you want bfly, buy it. Don't buy all the parts for both THEN disassemble.
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I'm more fond with playing with
starting items->aquila->boots->bottle->eblade If The game is one where i can burst at least 2 or 3 of their players in the early-midgame (until 30-35m at least) then It depends.
If not you should go aquila->boots->linkens->manta-> whatever you want.
I mean morph is a really versatile hero in terms of the items you want to build and highly depends in your ability to read the other team and how the game and their items are going to pan out.
If you go linkens you usually dont go eblade (well you can but you will get it in a point were its not gonna be as effective as rushing it) and you usually want to build a normal carry.
IF you go eblade you probably rush it, but since you're gonna need the mana you need bottle and aquila probably, and then with farm and kills you keep on farming and shit.
I also tried the lance on this hero and its particulary good, I rushed it and it paid off because you can farm safer, better and you will most likely build butterfly and bkb (this depends on their teamcomp but if you have to sell it its only like 500g loss)
IDK, as sno said i dont like the order you get your items.
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is SnY good for morph ? better than manta ?
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i think the old build still works fine with morphling, the dragon lance is a nice "theory" kind of thing but for 2k gold i think it just screws up everything else, cause u want aquila, wand, treads-> linkens -> yasha, (yasha becomes manta or sny) u can only fit the dragon lance after linkens. Which at that point i rather have a real item instead of bits of a breakable item.
I also prefer to playing farming style with morph, with the replicate u can farm super deep into lanes and in enemy jungles so the dragonlance range isnt that desirable at its cost
*slightly annoying* but the radiant camp changes means its harder to wave form and hit two camps, even if u pull them out a bit
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im winning in my 7k pubs doing the same old build guys
but now sometimes i max morph before waveform
who even builds butterfly when u have 50 armour wtf
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On December 19 2015 17:35 ChunderBoy wrote:
im winning in my 7k pubs doing the same old build guys
but now sometimes i max morph before waveform
who even builds butterfly when u have 50 armour wtf
I mean, butterfly is kinda... DPS item, ya see?
Plus, spare 4 armor and flutter does not hurt either (i'll ignore evasion since everyone builds mkbs nowadays).
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On December 19 2015 17:35 ChunderBoy wrote:
im winning in my 7k pubs doing the same old build guys
but now sometimes i max morph before waveform
who even builds butterfly when u have 50 armour wtf
are you doing the early point in w since it does 100 damage guaranteed now?
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On December 20 2015 01:26 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2015 17:35 ChunderBoy wrote:
im winning in my 7k pubs doing the same old build guys
but now sometimes i max morph before waveform
who even builds butterfly when u have 50 armour wtf are you doing the early point in w since it does 100 damage guaranteed now?
isnt that still too weak to warrant a point in it? maybe 4-0-4 vs 3-1-4, it is a tp breaker tho but how often are u fighting for it to make a difference in the early game.
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On December 20 2015 01:26 Comeh wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2015 17:35 ChunderBoy wrote:
im winning in my 7k pubs doing the same old build guys
but now sometimes i max morph before waveform
who even builds butterfly when u have 50 armour wtf are you doing the early point in w since it does 100 damage guaranteed now?
Checked out his last few replays. Looks like the standard Morph and Wave max first. No value point.
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butterfly sucks coz magic dmg is strong vs morph and if ure forcing ppl to go mkb then thats 160 magic dmg per proc
also satanic is too good late game to not get
i hate having to go bkb but usually that replaces my skadi
travels is nice on this hero but i feel too weak and useless without treads also morph doesnt have any inventory slot problems so u can always keep a tp with treads
i guess id get a value point in adaptive strike depending on how many times i think ill be using it early on or if i level up during a fight
good morphling players are defined by how good they are with using morph in short bursts and how they use replicate
bad players usually keep morph on when they get aggord in fights and end up with 6k hp and 1 agi and they also use replicate only for travelling to fountain or other lanes
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On December 20 2015 20:05 ChunderBoy wrote:
butterfly sucks coz magic dmg is strong vs morph and if ure forcing ppl to go mkb then thats 160 magic dmg per proc
also satanic is too good late game to not get
i hate having to go bkb but usually that replaces my skadi
travels is nice on this hero but i feel too weak and useless without treads also morph doesnt have any inventory slot problems so u can always keep a tp with treads
i guess id get a value point in adaptive strike depending on how many times i think ill be using it early on or if i level up during a fight
good morphling players are defined by how good they are with using morph in short bursts and how they use replicate
bad players usually keep morph on when they get aggord in fights and end up with 6k hp and 1 agi and they also use replicate only for travelling to fountain or other lanes
what are good ways to use replicate? i occasionally use it to bait out spells or jump on a support with eblade but are there any other things u can do?
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On December 20 2015 20:13 kollin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2015 20:05 ChunderBoy wrote:
butterfly sucks coz magic dmg is strong vs morph and if ure forcing ppl to go mkb then thats 160 magic dmg per proc
also satanic is too good late game to not get
i hate having to go bkb but usually that replaces my skadi
travels is nice on this hero but i feel too weak and useless without treads also morph doesnt have any inventory slot problems so u can always keep a tp with treads
i guess id get a value point in adaptive strike depending on how many times i think ill be using it early on or if i level up during a fight
good morphling players are defined by how good they are with using morph in short bursts and how they use replicate
bad players usually keep morph on when they get aggord in fights and end up with 6k hp and 1 agi and they also use replicate only for travelling to fountain or other lanes
what are good ways to use replicate? i occasionally use it to bait out spells or jump on a support with eblade but are there any other things u can do?
jumping on someone from 1.5k range
stealing auras
manoeuvring in fights to kill escaping enemies after fight is over
farming with replicated spectres/alchem or strong illu heroes
scouting
etc..
my last morph game ended by enemies using spells including laguna on a replicate in rosh pit :S
also replicating lycan gives u all his auras so ac+vlads+feral impulse
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I've seen a lot of the Eblade first players gank with replicas as well. I am not that great with Morph (only have like 10-15 games or so), so the only things I do with replicate are jumping closer to escaping enemies, tp'ing to fountain then jumping back, and just generally using it as a getaway for unsafe farming/ratting 
I didn't really think about stealing auras that sounds good.
Anyway, my main issue is knowing what HP I should always be at either before fights or just when I'm farming. I guess that's a feel thing where you need to judge how much burst they have and morph accordingly.
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eblade first isnt even worth it coz u prolly dont have adaptive maxed by the time u get it
and even if u have enough nuke dmg its prolly only good enough to kill a support
and u use all of ur mana pool and spend the next 30sec-1min going to fountain and regening
all for ~200g for killing a support
eblade first also means u cant waveform every other creepwave/camp u see which means u get much less farm in the long run
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isnt it easy now too not mess up the overmorphing on str in fights now, its so quikc u just tap it on and than off, and see if u need to do it again.
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