EPTThere actually probably just isn't a way to justify the faster EBlade, lol.
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
There actually probably just isn't a way to justify the faster EBlade, lol. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
i do it when we're ahead in early game | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On April 01 2016 01:46 Erasme wrote: i sometimes go 4-4-4 before skilling a point in morph i do it when we're ahead in early game you mean replicate? | ||
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Erasme
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BluemoonSC
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what should my timings look like? if I have a good lane, in your average game, is linkens really worth it? if I have a crappy lane or my team is feeding, what should I be looking to pick up? how should I skill for the above scenarios as well? | ||
TheEmulator
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BluemoonSC
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On April 01 2016 05:20 BluemoonSC wrote: can someone outline what I should be doing with this hero in most games? I've played him a couple times, but I've been hit or miss. what should my timings look like? if I have a good lane, in your average game, is linkens really worth it? if I have a crappy lane or my team is feeding, what should I be looking to pick up? how should I skill for the above scenarios as well? treads aquila wand into linkens into eb in 98% of games. If you can't go that build, you probably shouldn't have picked morph . linkens by like 18 on average, 25 max timing for linkens eblade, though you want to shoot for 23. Manta after that - depends on how the game goes post eb. Sometimes ill get bkb bfeore manta if the game is super fucked, but usually manta is better and linkens + manta will get you out of most things that bkb wlil do. after that typically skadi, and satanic is really good on this hero. yes always get linkens unless you are suicide watch. idk ask beeesa about that, i know there is that hotd into manta build that some players do but jesus idk thats a playstyle im not familiar with 4041 I know sometimes beesa maxes morph before waveform, but I value waveform more when I have decent space, as sometimes ill straight up kill the offlaner or at least force them back to fountain. | ||
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
is bottle + bots acceptable? using replicate as a pseudo-ember-remnant? | ||
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Deleted User 261926
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DucK-
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
If you want to farm, Linkens makes bigger contributions than a Yasha. If you want to kill people, Yasha doesn't improve your kill potential by enough to be worth a 2k gold later EBlade. Yasha->EBlade just feels like its hedging unfavorably between farming and fighting rather than going Linken first or EBlade first. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On April 01 2016 09:29 TheYango wrote: That still doesn't answer the question of why the Yasha first. If you want to farm, Linkens makes bigger contributions than a Yasha. If you want to kill people, Yasha doesn't improve your kill potential by enough to be worth a 2k gold later EBlade. Yasha->EBlade just feels like its hedging unfavorably between farming and fighting rather than going Linken first or EBlade first. Oh I didn't see the Yasha. I'm an Eblade rush person. I usually open with midas. Maybe I'm irrational because I dislike getting Linkens for the sake of getting it. I get Linkens only because there's a spell I wanna block, and nothing else. | ||
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BluemoonSC
SoCal8910 Posts
the game was winnable too if I had played better earlier | ||
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BoZiffer
United States1841 Posts
On April 01 2016 09:47 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: ive gone veil eblade and it felt decent (with 4441) Wait, what? How'd you manage mana deficiency- bottle and RoA? This is really intriguing tho... | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On April 02 2016 09:22 BoZiffer wrote: Wait, what? How'd you manage mana deficiency- bottle and RoA? This is really intriguing tho... the mana is definitely a problem and this builds probably ideal with a kotl or cm, and a bottle otherwise (dropping your veil pieces for efficiency while bottling) i get aquila every game on this hero because i never feel like i have slot issues when you go a non-linkens build without enough mana regen though, your efficiency definitely takes a hit, you probably have to use replicate for basing purposes instead of more interesting purposes basically i still trust beesa that linkens every game is a solid template and very rarely clearly much worse than any sort of eblade rush build | ||
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nanaoei
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if the point is that you're ahead and you wanna stay ahead, there's a great deal more plays you can make with the single point in replicate than without. you can even treat it like an ember with bots. people also seem to forget it's like a full-sized hero, or like a venge agh illusion without the whole dying business. it creates a freaking illusion with auras. for double digit mana. how is that not worth a point by level 11 rofl. pretty sure you can even fountain regen with a bottle ticking right as you wave-form and go invul., so you can park it behind a camp much like ember does with remnants earlier into the game. free wave-form. let's say in lane you clear the 3-stack of the pull camp with 2 or 3 waveforms and your creeps tanking. obviously hellbears are good targets for focusing since the auras. i mean it's around 400 gold, already starting to make up the cost of the bottle which synergizes well with your treads, and that's a bunch of xp that probably amounts to that level you saved in not skilling replicate in the first place, and it is not a long cd. going bots just to do this to farm or rejoin fights though is overkill, unless you somehow got the space to do all this shit rofl. i played a bunch of morph earlier but didn't get to test or do any sort of math regarding it. but does morph still tick while you are waveforming? because it shouldn't take much time to morph str for 4 second stun and waveform-morph back into agi for actual damage. it may or may not be worth it at all but is a point to maximize stun and damage where mana is available. this is obviously, pre-items like eblade where your stats are much lower and easy to manipulate with morph for HP, stun, and damage. let me explain the situation with adaptive strike and the idea of morphing to and fro for higher stun duration. the cast time is there, and low, but the backswing is high; it's closer to a whole second. you can cancel most of that backswing into an instant agi morph right as you waveform to close distance from adaptive cast-range. as we all know, his attack range is shit so waveform is necessary to close the distance in after a long range adaptive strike. in those two half-seconds you sacrafice about 50-100 mana, the agi multiplier damage, perhaps some double digit agi worth of damage in order to have up to 3 seconds extra of stun. i mean it's worth thinking about imo. if you're really good you can toggle int for spellcasting this way since adaptive isn't doing much damage anyway. regardless, it just seems ludicrous to skip ulti when it's a fully controllable hero that does decent damage and is essentially morph's answer to ember ulti. like who even brings gem or sentries early game with concerns to reveal which hero is a replicate? you can simply use it as a bait if you want, or dive someone under tower, and gtfo, for 150 mana. | ||
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Theoren
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