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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
February 11 2015 15:58 GMT
#101
^ this pretty much.
I max charge over bash if I'm doing the dagon build as well, just more reliable damage quicker.
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TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
February 11 2015 17:38 GMT
#102
Charge max stun is not much higher than bash. Also it doesn't stack with the bash, and it deals no damage, only the base.

I do not approve of Charge first. It is more than situational.

My normal build is max bash, 1-1-1 on level 3. On items i get urn and drums, stats ftw. Unless I'm against storms or lycans or stuff, i max aura after bash.

I usually play sb as support, sometimes offlaner. I could argue about maxing aura first, it makes you kinda unkillable in lane, and no one escapes you. But bash is where your damage is.

But srsly the aura with the new active is just too strong, it's free drum charges. No escapes from small skirmishes, or you can always escape from them.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
February 11 2015 18:45 GMT
#103
i guess max aura first is good then for the reason you listed.
but I would argue charge first is preferable, as it is a 2.4 second reliable stun, vs a 1.6 second maybe stun for 17% of the time, especially with his bad attack animation.
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TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
February 12 2015 15:30 GMT
#104
It is 100% during charge.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
February 12 2015 21:37 GMT
#105
I don't think I've ever maxed Charge first over Bash but I also haven't played the dagon build yet. I'm leaning towards it in thta case because the increased speed is actually rather important in that you maximize your chance of Charge hittin, ulting, then dagoning as opposed to running the additional risk of that combo and the damage getting prevented because you wanted a lucky bash or two that gank.
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
February 12 2015 22:28 GMT
#106
I am 1-1-1 at level 3, and 2-1-2 at level 5. After the ult I then max bash. Following that I choose between charge or the aura depending on what my team is like. All together? Get the aura. Charging by myself or pushing out lanes? Charge to get to the fight faster.
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xxpack09
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2160 Posts
February 12 2015 23:38 GMT
#107
One of my friends who plays Spirit Breaker tells me that you should always have 2 points in charge by level 6, since the slight increase in stun duration means that with the cast pt + delay of nether strike, 2 points in charge guarantees perfect chainstun if you Q -> R.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
February 13 2015 07:24 GMT
#108
On February 13 2015 08:38 xxpack09 wrote:
One of my friends who plays Spirit Breaker tells me that you should always have 2 points in charge by level 6, since the slight increase in stun duration means that with the cast pt + delay of nether strike, 2 points in charge guarantees perfect chainstun if you Q -> R.

This is true.

I normally go 2-1-2 -> 2-1-4-1 -> 4-1-4-2 recently too.
slimebeast
Profile Joined February 2015
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-14 21:45:37
February 14 2015 21:45 GMT
#109
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 16 2015 13:16 GMT
#110
My biggest complaint about Spirit Breaker leveling is that they all scale like shit but I want them all maxed.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-02-16 13:23:18
February 16 2015 13:23 GMT
#111
edit
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27149 Posts
February 18 2015 13:12 GMT
#112
On February 16 2015 22:16 Torte de Lini wrote:
My biggest complaint about Spirit Breaker leveling is that they all scale like shit but I want them all maxed.


which is why you get solo offlane or have a shitty game. Works great with a jungle hero, lifestealer obviously being a favorite.
ModeratorGodfather
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13032 Posts
February 22 2015 13:27 GMT
#113
Havent played the hero in a while and yesterday just crushed with him but it was wierd that he was stopping attacking randomly when im attacking creeps.

Whenever you kill a creep he just stops and is doing nothing, never seen this with any other hero.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
l3loodraven
Profile Joined July 2013
2753 Posts
February 22 2015 21:01 GMT
#114
its not just cow, there's some bug messing up people's auto attack settings.
"fear.dankness cuts deeper than swords"
Rawr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden624 Posts
February 22 2015 23:58 GMT
#115
Spirit breaker stops attacking after a bash, I think. I remember that happening when I played him a while ago.
Joo Se-Hyuk
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 26 2015 22:48 GMT
#116
Bump.

Hero is pretty good this patch, 2 points in charge before maxing Bash and then maxing Charge.
I used to go Blade Mail after Urn of Shadows, but I see the appeal in Shadow Blade.

Sometimes I feel going full Silver Edge is not really worth it; though the extra Str. is al'right.

My other inquiry is that I never know what to get after Silver Edge if I don't need BKB yet. I went MKB in my last game and that worked out pretty good: Moon Shard, Satanic or Assault Cuirass were also decent, but was hoping for something a bit cheaper if I wasn't snowballing so well.
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Fencar
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States2694 Posts
May 26 2015 23:26 GMT
#117
Last time I played SB I went for the swag treads urn dagon (1 only) build. I could solo kill pretty much any hero on the enemy team with that.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
May 26 2015 23:30 GMT
#118
On May 27 2015 07:48 Torte de Lini wrote:
My other inquiry is that I never know what to get after Silver Edge if I don't need BKB yet. I went MKB in my last game and that worked out pretty good: Moon Shard, Satanic or Assault Cuirass were also decent, but was hoping for something a bit cheaper if I wasn't snowballing so well.

Moon Shard's not really that good unless you're crazy fed because after Lothar's you kinda need at least a half-defensive/half-offensive item. AC Halberd S&Y etc. all fine. Note that despite the game trying to indicate otherwise, maims from Sange, Halberd, S&Y and Silver Edge all stack fully with each other (as in, the maims from each item are treated as different buffs with no interference with each other--duplicates of the same item still don't stack).
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
May 27 2015 08:15 GMT
#119
On May 27 2015 08:26 Fencar wrote:
Last time I played SB I went for the swag treads urn dagon (1 only) build. I could solo kill pretty much any hero on the enemy team with that.


kreb is legend.
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
May 27 2015 08:30 GMT
#120
On May 27 2015 08:30 TheYango wrote:
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On May 27 2015 07:48 Torte de Lini wrote:
My other inquiry is that I never know what to get after Silver Edge if I don't need BKB yet. I went MKB in my last game and that worked out pretty good: Moon Shard, Satanic or Assault Cuirass were also decent, but was hoping for something a bit cheaper if I wasn't snowballing so well.

Moon Shard's not really that good unless you're crazy fed because after Lothar's you kinda need at least a half-defensive/half-offensive item. AC Halberd S&Y etc. all fine. Note that despite the game trying to indicate otherwise, maims from Sange, Halberd, S&Y and Silver Edge all stack fully with each other (as in, the maims from each item are treated as different buffs with no interference with each other--duplicates of the same item still don't stack).


Lothar's or Silver Edge?

I felt Moon Shard was a bit over-the-top after I got it; with MKB or Assault Cuirass, it is probably better.

I feel S&Y is perhaps gotten too late after SE and potentially BKB
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