EPTOn January 17 2014 20:23 ChunderBoy wrote:
jungling with lycan without a bottle pool = loss
laning with lycan = win
jungling with lycan without a bottle pool = loss
laning with lycan = win
thanks for your incredible insight...
[Hero] Lycan - Page 12
| Forum Index > Dota 2 Strategy |
|
Jetaap
France4814 Posts
thanks for your incredible insight... | ||
|
Mlcrosoft1
Croatia26 Posts
On January 16 2014 03:27 ChaZzza wrote: I was going to say I like Kwark's build but I'm going to try 'microsoft's' version, until i watched the video where he has no boots or smoke. Even at my level that is laughable. Thanks for sharing. rofl, dude you do realise that this was a demonstration video in practice with bots not a real game. I'm a 5-5.1k mmr solo player , i end up on first page every 4-5 games, sometimes 2 games in a row and ofc you use smoke but i still do not use boots untill i kill roshan. And ofc i skill ulti on 6 in these serious games. | ||
KwarK
United States43351 Posts
| ||
|
ChunderBoy
3242 Posts
| ||
|
HollowLord
United States3862 Posts
On January 17 2014 23:54 ChunderBoy wrote: well im 6k and im gonna tell u going to the jungle with lycan is a sure way to lose in better games. Damn, guess we better close down the thread guys. | ||
|
Mlcrosoft1
Croatia26 Posts
On January 17 2014 23:20 KwarK wrote: And you didn't think it might help people to do the things they'll need in a real game in your demonstration? demonstration had emphasis on how to do it, you using smoke or not is your call, not mine. I focused on implying people to buy stout shield, because any lycan jungling strategies without stout shield are sub optimal. Hero is forced to tank and you cannot even kill a single hard camp without it taking 3/4 of your hp or more depending on spawn On January 17 2014 23:54 ChunderBoy wrote: well im 6k and im gonna tell u going to the jungle with lycan is a sure way to lose in better games. if you were 6k maybe i'd care about what you said. | ||
|
ChunderBoy
3242 Posts
if you were 6k maybe i'd care about what you said. but i am | ||
|
Mlcrosoft1
Croatia26 Posts
good for you, implying you know more about the game than i do because you have 6k. Pretty much only way to get that rating was to 5 stack before ranked introduced or mass picking earth spirit, or we can name it abusing the system, because that's what it is. You don't play the hero to know it's potential, it's like me saying distuptor doesn't work in 5-6k bracket when i never play him. | ||
|
PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
that doesnt sound very caring. If I said I had 5.5k mmr would you think i was good? or is that also impossibly high | ||
|
Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
person B: I'm 6k, gtfo person A: ow my epeen | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34498 Posts
On January 18 2014 01:32 Mlcrosoft1 wrote: good for you, implying you know more about the game than i do because you have 6k. Pretty much only way to get that rating was to 5 stack before ranked introduced or mass picking earth spirit, or we can name it abusing the system, because that's what it is. You don't play the hero to know it's potential, it's like me saying distuptor doesn't work in 5-6k bracket when i never play him. Everything else aside I can vouch that he indeed is 6k solo rated, and isn't an Earth Spirit picker. | ||
|
HollowLord
United States3862 Posts
Given these extensive credentials, I would like to assert that my particular opinion on how to play a videogame is the only one that should be accepted by all players. Likewise, those who disagree with me are 'lucker noobs'. | ||
|
Mlcrosoft1
Croatia26 Posts
 aye it's impossible to convince people my build is better as you will get:a) you got lucky spawns b) your mmr isn't high enough c) someone who doesn't play the hero telling me Lycan doesn't work in 5k+ d)trolls that don't even care about the thread but the arguments about mmr etc. i didn't come here to tell i have 5k mmr, i came here to tell you how to be a really good lycan player, not the one that builds vlads and medallion for 12 mins and then goes roshan with huge risk of getting ganked because at 12 mins it's bloody obvious you can do it at that point, but one that takes roshan in 8 mins and start pushing every lane with his level advantage that early. | ||
|
KwarK
United States43351 Posts
On January 18 2014 02:21 Mlcrosoft1 wrote: aye it's impossible to convince people my build is better as you will get:a) you got lucky spawns b) your mmr isn't high enough c) someone who doesn't play the hero telling me Lycan doesn't work in 5k+ d)trolls that don't even care about the thread but the arguments about mmr etc. i didn't come here to tell i have 5k mmr, i came here to tell you how to be a really good lycan player, not the one that builds vlads and medallion for 12 mins and then goes roshan with huge risk of getting ganked because at 12 mins it's bloody obvious you can do it at that point, but one that takes roshan in 8* mins and start pushing every lane with his level advantage that early. *8 mins if you take shortcuts like being gankable by everyone because no boots, farming faster by skipping ult, getting no mana regen items so I can't save myself vs ganks even with ult, no mana so I can't do shit post rosh and getting lucky spawns, none of which are reliable techniques in real games You think I can't rosh faster than 12 vs bots? You don't have some magic technique only you know about, you just changed the order in which you get things from mine in a game vs bots and then concluded that because the bots didn't take advantage of that it was better. Make youtube videos of it working under realistic conditions or none at all. | ||
|
govie
9334 Posts
It could well be that microsoft can play a better lycanhero. If he thinks he can and wants to contribute, he should make his own guide to playing lycantrope with competitive examples. It has no meaning to highjack this thread in a offensive manner (or thats how i read his posts). | ||
|
Laurens
Belgium4553 Posts
| ||
|
Jetaap
France4814 Posts
I don't know how it was even possible, my teamates died a lot but still i feel i should have been able to bring it back , now 0-3 with lycan in ranked . I went necro because they were 5 manning around, i thought i would need to split push but that was not enough my teamates kept dying to their 5 man. | ||
|
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34498 Posts
On January 18 2014 05:21 Jetaap wrote: I lost a game while jungling lycan eventhough i had a kotl feeding me mana and even a treant giving me armor.. I don't know how it was even possible, my teamates died a lot but still i feel i should have been able to bring it back , now 0-3 with lycan in ranked . I went necro before they were 5 manning around, i thought i would need to split push but that was not enough my teamates kept dying to their 5 man. If you linked a replay we could take a look and give you advice. | ||
|
Rhyme
United States1069 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/nk8ZqCM.png) 76% winrate at 1.6 kda is pretty comical | ||
|
Atreides
United States2393 Posts
On January 18 2014 03:02 govie wrote: To be honest, which one works the best isnt really important to me. I tried this guide because it seemed pretty safe and not to hard at my level. The lycanbuild worked, i had nice games and felt good about my performance after (many have stated the same). Good job well done Kwark. Kwark rocks! and deserves credit for having the balls the post it and stick his neck out. Alot of mediocre players will benefit (or eventually becaause they start to think about dotamicro and efficiency and stuff like that). It could well be that microsoft can play a better lycanhero. If he thinks he can and wants to contribute, he should make his own guide to playing lycantrope with competitive examples. It has no meaning to highjack this thread in a offensive manner (or thats how i read his posts). And then when the one of the higher pubstars who posts on TL on occasion comes into thread microsoft decide to bash on him too. lol I found that most humorous of all! This guide also made me play lycan a bunch and Ive enjoyed it immensely, but I think the argument about jungle routes and starting builds is kind of silly because 75% of games you have to back to fountain and such because of harassment in jungle anyways... So idealized runs vs bots are kind of meh. | ||
| ||
