• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:06
CEST 18:06
KST 01:06
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash6[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy11ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool49Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win42026 KungFu Cup Announcement6BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled12
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Potential Updates Coming to the SC2 CN Server
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash Pros React To: SoulKey vs Ample ASL21 General Discussion RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site KK Platform will provide 1 million CNY
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group D [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro24 Group C [ASL21] Ro24 Group B
Strategy
What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1807 users

Team Liquid Discussion - Page 252

Forum Index > Dota 2 Player & Team Discussion
Post a Reply
Prev 1 250 251 252 253 254 361 Next
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
October 15 2017 21:24 GMT
#5021
Oh haha just saw draft for game5

Icefrog needs to nerf liquid fast or the team won't live up the the Liquid Brand of heart attack inducing dark horse for a long time.

They pull KOTL out of the bag finally
Mineski who obviously studied it over compensate with nyx core and disruptor
Liquid Fake out, throw it on sacrificial 5 on Kuro

And game is all but over right there pretty much
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
October 16 2017 02:42 GMT
#5022
Remember that wings won their first tournaments after TI too. Curse is strong, don't doubt the curse XD
HeYmaney
Profile Joined August 2015
Switzerland193 Posts
October 16 2017 05:41 GMT
#5023
One question bothers me, maybe I didn't read enough about it, but is the TI winner (aka Liquid) gonna get a direct invite for TI8 this season or not?
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-16 05:46:34
October 16 2017 05:46 GMT
#5024
6 in a row! Woo Hooo!

Dream League season 6 ✓
Star Ladder i-league StarSeries Season 3 ✓
Star Ladder i-league Invitational Season 2 ✓
Epicenter 2017 ✓
The International 2017 ✓
Star Ladder i-league Invitational Season 3 ✓


ESL Hamburg 2017 - Next.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-16 08:13:31
October 16 2017 08:13 GMT
#5025
On October 16 2017 14:41 HeYmaney wrote:
One question bothers me, maybe I didn't read enough about it, but is the TI winner (aka Liquid) gonna get a direct invite for TI8 this season or not?

We have the point system now, so no. The 8 teams with the most points get a direct invite.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-16 08:38:43
October 16 2017 08:37 GMT
#5026
On October 16 2017 14:46 NInoff wrote:
6 in a row! Woo Hooo!

Dream League season 6 ✓
Star Ladder i-league StarSeries Season 3 ✓
Star Ladder i-league Invitational Season 2 ✓
Epicenter 2017 ✓
The International 2017 ✓
Star Ladder i-league Invitational Season 3 ✓


ESL Hamburg 2017 - Next.

5 in a row actually. Liquipedia is somehow missing dreamleague Season 7, which was right before TI. Also Season 6 was still in 2016, we lost some stuff like kiew or DAC after that. But still very impressive of course;)
FO-nTTaX
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Johto4979 Posts
October 16 2017 09:39 GMT
#5027
We are not: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Team_Liquid/Results

If you just check the main page, that just shows the 10 best results according to some formula, so obviously wins go in there more often.
Administrator@FO_nTTaX | FO-nTTaX.de | 0xff0000.dev | Senior Lead Liquipedia Developer
"Nimm es. Es ist nicht viel, aber es kommt von Herzen. Vergiss mich nicht!"
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3452 Posts
October 16 2017 10:29 GMT
#5028
On October 16 2017 18:39 FO-nTTaX wrote:
We are not: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Team_Liquid/Results

If you just check the main page, that just shows the 10 best results according to some formula, so obviously wins go in there more often.


May June July August October never lost a tournament.
We're collecting dem cheques every month.
drumandbass
Profile Joined June 2014
Hungary63 Posts
October 16 2017 10:52 GMT
#5029
It hasn't been so nice to be a Liquid fan since the summer of Taeja. GG WP to players and management both!
"... you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup; you put water into a bottle it becomes the bottle; you put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
October 16 2017 13:20 GMT
#5030
The Liquid Nerf Patch is coming, brace yourselves.

They will change not only heroes, but main gameplay components. Neutral XP ammount, range, distribution, positioning, maybe even the map itself. My guess is that there will be new mechanic like the shrines etc.

A huge patch that messes up dota playstyle as it is, is the only way to stop the boys.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
October 16 2017 16:06 GMT
#5031
On October 16 2017 22:20 NInoff wrote:
The Liquid Nerf Patch is coming, brace yourselves.

They will change not only heroes, but main gameplay components. Neutral XP ammount, range, distribution, positioning, maybe even the map itself. My guess is that there will be new mechanic like the shrines etc.

A huge patch that messes up dota playstyle as it is, is the only way to stop the boys.

Is it really enough? I feel like liquid is way to flexible to be nerfed, they can play any way they want to. We are not limited in our strategies like TI3 Alliance. The other teams have to learn new stuff too then, also most teams dont have brilliant people like kuro and heen. Im not really worried about the patch;)
MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
October 17 2017 03:46 GMT
#5032
Liquid man....
#TLWIN TI7, TLDota BEST TL
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
October 24 2017 00:01 GMT
#5033
Next title in a few days guys! Maybe they should just give it to us, since its still the same patch;)
Kyir
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1047 Posts
October 24 2017 00:57 GMT
#5034
Yeah, it seems much more fair to let all those other peasants fight for second without worrying about Liquid.
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
October 24 2017 08:15 GMT
#5035
On October 17 2017 01:06 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2017 22:20 NInoff wrote:
The Liquid Nerf Patch is coming, brace yourselves.

They will change not only heroes, but main gameplay components. Neutral XP ammount, range, distribution, positioning, maybe even the map itself. My guess is that there will be new mechanic like the shrines etc.

A huge patch that messes up dota playstyle as it is, is the only way to stop the boys.

Is it really enough? I feel like liquid is way to flexible to be nerfed, they can play any way they want to. We are not limited in our strategies like TI3 Alliance. The other teams have to learn new stuff too then, also most teams dont have brilliant people like kuro and heen. Im not really worried about the patch;)


I hope you are right.

Before the last big patch, which iirc changed mid lane and creep gold - Matu and Miracle had quite some issues finding and distributing farm. So the only thing I'm slightly concerned about is that valve might want to limit farm a bit more again.
However, it does really feel like Matu has become so much better at playing a bit of a sacrificial carry and more of tempo control than farm oriented role.

Overall I feel like it might need a bunch of adjusting - but they should be able to get there fairly quickly I guess.
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
October 24 2017 10:04 GMT
#5036
On October 24 2017 17:15 sCuMBaG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2017 01:06 hunter_x wrote:
On October 16 2017 22:20 NInoff wrote:
The Liquid Nerf Patch is coming, brace yourselves.

They will change not only heroes, but main gameplay components. Neutral XP ammount, range, distribution, positioning, maybe even the map itself. My guess is that there will be new mechanic like the shrines etc.

A huge patch that messes up dota playstyle as it is, is the only way to stop the boys.

Is it really enough? I feel like liquid is way to flexible to be nerfed, they can play any way they want to. We are not limited in our strategies like TI3 Alliance. The other teams have to learn new stuff too then, also most teams dont have brilliant people like kuro and heen. Im not really worried about the patch;)


I hope you are right.

Before the last big patch, which iirc changed mid lane and creep gold - Matu and Miracle had quite some issues finding and distributing farm.

in fact the biggest change was that jungle creeps returned to spawn every minute instead of each 2 minutes. So suddendly even if jungle wasn't very efficient, there was still farm for both.
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-10-24 13:07:20
October 24 2017 13:03 GMT
#5037
On October 24 2017 17:15 sCuMBaG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2017 01:06 hunter_x wrote:
On October 16 2017 22:20 NInoff wrote:
The Liquid Nerf Patch is coming, brace yourselves.

They will change not only heroes, but main gameplay components. Neutral XP ammount, range, distribution, positioning, maybe even the map itself. My guess is that there will be new mechanic like the shrines etc.

A huge patch that messes up dota playstyle as it is, is the only way to stop the boys.

Is it really enough? I feel like liquid is way to flexible to be nerfed, they can play any way they want to. We are not limited in our strategies like TI3 Alliance. The other teams have to learn new stuff too then, also most teams dont have brilliant people like kuro and heen. Im not really worried about the patch;)


I hope you are right.

Before the last big patch, which iirc changed mid lane and creep gold - Matu and Miracle had quite some issues finding and distributing farm. So the only thing I'm slightly concerned about is that valve might want to limit farm a bit more again.
However, it does really feel like Matu has become so much better at playing a bit of a sacrificial carry and more of tempo control than farm oriented role.

Overall I feel like it might need a bunch of adjusting - but they should be able to get there fairly quickly I guess.


Back then they were trying to distribute farm for both of them. And thats not really a viable strat. Now they are much more flexible. Miracle carries if he gets farm, Matu carries if he gets farm. If both fail - MC wins the game. And if he for some reason doesn't have a good day GH plays an insane 4 position and we are still fine. All that powered by Kuro Draft and in game Calling and positioning.

And of course if all of the above fails (5% chance - liquid lose). So people have a chance in Bo1.

P.S. Keep in mind that i only reviewed situations when only 1 or 2 have a good game. If more of them do its a complete dismantle, textbook dota and opponents look like they've just learned the game.
Not to mention the absoluteley insane positioning of the team and my favourite Choose your poison strat - You either lose Rosh or T3 bottom ( and rax probably )
YourGoodFriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2197 Posts
October 26 2017 12:29 GMT
#5038




Pretty cool
anonymous is the most famous author that anyone can be
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
October 26 2017 15:04 GMT
#5039
On October 26 2017 21:29 YourGoodFriend wrote:
https://twitter.com/mhmd_elmrd/status/923142156029751296

https://twitter.com/Cyborgmatt/status/923141807617314816

Pretty cool

Sexy car, makes you want to have one;)
tendosai
Profile Joined August 2016
13 Posts
October 26 2017 18:27 GMT
#5040
5mn into the game with Spectre, I thought LQ is doing stuff with new strat. but at around 14mn ... they actually do experiment with this line up and testing how the enemies counter+react to it.
Prev 1 250 251 252 253 254 361 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Monday Night Weeklies
16:00
#46
TKL 99
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 354
Hui .332
trigger 311
ProTech129
TKL 99
Trikslyr42
UpATreeSC 2
BRAT_OK 1
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4002
Horang2 3351
Bisu 1197
EffOrt 1129
actioN 665
Hyuk 428
ggaemo 333
firebathero 277
Soulkey 243
Sharp 197
[ Show more ]
Snow 167
hero 71
Backho 65
Hyun 55
Hm[arnc] 27
Shine 21
Terrorterran 16
Bale 16
soO 14
yabsab 13
GoRush 11
SilentControl 9
eros_byul 1
Dota 2
qojqva4638
syndereN770
canceldota59
BananaSlamJamma14
League of Legends
Reynor0
Other Games
singsing2290
B2W.Neo1435
hiko847
Beastyqt377
ceh9342
crisheroes289
Livibee251
Fuzer 191
ArmadaUGS159
Sick76
oskar35
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV570
League of Legends
• Jankos4252
• Nemesis3366
• TFBlade1125
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 55m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
17h 55m
Afreeca Starleague
17h 55m
Rush vs PianO
Flash vs Speed
PiGosaur Cup
1d 7h
Replay Cast
1d 16h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 17h
BeSt vs Leta
Queen vs Jaedong
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
TriGGeR vs Cure
ByuN vs Rogue
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Maru vs MaxPax
BSL
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

2026 Changsha Offline CUP
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
Escore Tournament S2: W1
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.