EPTWe'll kicking everyone asses in Epicenter to show them up.
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vndestiny
Singapore3449 Posts
We'll kicking everyone asses in Epicenter to show them up. | ||
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f0xteam
79 Posts
On May 26 2017 08:52 vndestiny wrote: I'm seeing so many dissing Liquid as not TI invite worthy. We'll kicking everyone asses in Epicenter to show them up. yep top4 at Moscow + the win at sl will secure the invite i believe | ||
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vndestiny
Singapore3449 Posts
On May 26 2017 09:49 f0xteam wrote: yep top4 at Moscow + the win at sl will secure the invite i believe Top 4 ? Idk what you're talking about we're gonna be back to back Epicenter champion. | ||
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YourGoodFriend
United States2197 Posts
On May 26 2017 09:51 vndestiny wrote: Top 4 ? Idk what you're talking about we're gonna be back to back Epicenter champion. This man speaks truth! By the laws of math we will win, Newbee is looking the strongest at Manila, NB was in our group at SL and we came first ergo Liquid number 1 Dotas GG | ||
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NInoff
Bulgaria1105 Posts
On May 26 2017 08:52 vndestiny wrote: I'm seeing so many dissing Liquid as not TI invite worthy. We'll kicking everyone asses in Epicenter to show them up. Well there has been a discussion about Starladder being weak tournament a couple of pages back. As we can see both OG and EG got crushed by Newbie (TBH they almost got beaten by NP, it was a close series). And Newbie got crushed by Liquid and TNC in starladder. So this proves once again that the new patch changes everything. OG don't looks so strong anymore, EG are shaky IG has very bad days and this means that Liquid are currently top contender for the invite.Hell i haven't seen them look shaky since they stopped picking naga every game. I'd love to see us wining Epicenter too ( this will also revive hunter_x) but top 4 there should be enough. This means winning the group is enough. Lets wait and see, fingers crossed. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On May 26 2017 22:30 NInoff wrote: Well there has been a discussion about Starladder being weak tournament a couple of pages back. As we can see both OG and EG got crushed by Newbie (TBH they almost got beaten by NP, it was a close series). And Newbie got crushed by Liquid and TNC in starladder. So this proves once again that the new patch changes everything. OG don't looks so strong anymore, EG are shaky IG has very bad days and this means that Liquid are currently top contender for the invite.Hell i haven't seen them look shaky since they stopped picking naga every game. I'd love to see us wining Epicenter too ( this will also revive hunter_x) but top 4 there should be enough. This means winning the group is enough. Lets wait and see, fingers crossed. EG, OG, iG and VP are basically guaranteed invites for being top 4 at Kiev. The only question is if EU gets another invite slot, and if Liquid has earned it over the other EU contenders (which they probably have). | ||
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YourGoodFriend
United States2197 Posts
On May 27 2017 00:00 WolfintheSheep wrote: EG, OG, iG and VP are basically guaranteed invites for being top 4 at Kiev. The only question is if EU gets another invite slot, and if Liquid has earned it over the other EU contenders (which they probably have). Just because EG and iG were top 4 I dont think they will be automatically slotted for an invite. VP has not looked good at all this patch, out of EG iG and OG, iG and OG are not looking that good right now but with OG's major win they are basically a lock. IG and Newbee are still the strongest China contenders right now so both of them will probably get invites (depending on Manila and EpiCenter) For EU right now its OG with a basically guaranteed invite and then really you have to say TL is the next strongest EU team especially if they place higher than VP at epiCenter I don't see them not being the other EU invite (assuming its like last year with 2 EU invites) I mean if TL wins dream league and then places top 4 at epiCenter how can you make the argument that VP is better deserving of the invite (unless VP places higher at epiCenter) | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
EG is also probably pretty much a lock. Top4 at the major and they already secured top3 at Manila. OG will naturally get invited as the winner of both majors even if they don't win a game anymore at Manila and Epicenter. iG should also be a lock given that they won DAC, got top4 at Kiev and they haven't done that badly since. The other invites depend quite a bit on how many slots there will be. If they invite 8 teams again then Liquid's chances are very good. They'll have to do pretty poorly at Epicenter to lose their spot I think. But it also depends on which other teams do well in these future events. I don't think Newbee was in any way a lock but they've been making a run at Manila so they are in the running. Secret was in a good position to get several good results after qualifying to everything but they again placed poorly on LAN. There's a bunch of teams that have a chance if they do well at the LANs they play in such as TBirds, NP, TNC, CG, etc. But it's hard to see a scenario where there are 4 additional teams that in the end have better results than Liquid. TNC is probably the likeliest out of those given that they were 2nd at SL and they still play at a Chinese LAN with decent enough competition at the same time as the Summit. The other candidates basically have to win one of these LANs to get in. | ||
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Pontual
Brazil3038 Posts
SO it would be like this: 6 invites + 8 regional qualifiers + 2 wildcards = 16 teams You would probably leave some good teams behind, but competition is fierce atm. *If epicenter winner isn't in listed in the invites i wrote then liquid probably loses their invite spot **If newbee wins manilla Just an adendo: If liquid wins the water themed international we will have a good meme on our hands. (make it happen) | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
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Pontual
Brazil3038 Posts
On May 27 2017 01:50 spudde123 wrote: That doesn't sound bad at all and it isn't even that unlikely. I'd also far prefer wildcards over somewhat arbitrarily making a decision to force 8 invites as there were at Kiev. Those last invited teams often only have 1 good result or marginally better results than some other teams. Far better imo to just put the spots for wildcards so that teams from different regions can play their way in. Yeah, but they do happen to invite 4 they probably would give +1 spot for NA and EU | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On May 27 2017 00:34 YourGoodFriend wrote: Just because EG and iG were top 4 I dont think they will be automatically slotted for an invite. VP has not looked good at all this patch, out of EG iG and OG, iG and OG are not looking that good right now but with OG's major win they are basically a lock. IG and Newbee are still the strongest China contenders right now so both of them will probably get invites (depending on Manila and EpiCenter) For EU right now its OG with a basically guaranteed invite and then really you have to say TL is the next strongest EU team especially if they place higher than VP at epiCenter I don't see them not being the other EU invite (assuming its like last year with 2 EU invites) I mean if TL wins dream league and then places top 4 at epiCenter how can you make the argument that VP is better deserving of the invite (unless VP places higher at epiCenter) VP is CIS. Valve has separated the region. VP vs TL really isn't even in consideration anymore. | ||
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YourGoodFriend
United States2197 Posts
On May 27 2017 03:19 WolfintheSheep wrote: VP is CIS. Valve has separated the region. VP vs TL really isn't even in consideration anymore. Oh you right I forget that, well in that case liquid is basically a lock for 2nd eu invite  | ||
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Julmust
Sweden4867 Posts
On May 27 2017 09:17 YourGoodFriend wrote: Oh you right I forget that, well in that case liquid is basically a lock for 2nd eu invite I hope so but I think EPICENTER will be the biggest deciding factor. I'm not saying they need to win to get the invite, but I think they'll get it if they place higher than, or not too far behind, Secret. | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
We're the best team in the world more games=more practice | ||
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chabode
330 Posts
On May 28 2017 21:23 LemOn wrote: Do we want a direct invite? We're the best team in the world more games=more practice is this a sign to just waltzing through EU qualifier? | ||
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
on the other hand I don't think it's fair on the other teams at all to have Liquid in the qualifier and someone weaker get direct invite So yeah okay Naz, you can confirm to Valve you'll take the direct invite you know for fairness | ||
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YourGoodFriend
United States2197 Posts
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juuto
809 Posts
On May 29 2017 02:05 YourGoodFriend wrote: I mean after watching the teams at Manila and watching all of liquids games at SL I think TNC and liquid are the strongest looking two teams right now. I mean newbee got 2nd at Manila and faceless got fourth. Newbee was 2-0ed by TNC and faceless looked like a tier two team against liquid (not even making it to 30 minutes in both games) at SL Manila was definitely a disappointment when it came to seeing the strongest teams of the patch playing it out. Definitely strong teams there but the lack of TNC and Liquid could be felt. I'm sure we'd be saying the something similar about Starladder if Manila came first, but a lot of the strong teams of the patch just seem like they're missing from a lot of these events. | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
Of course! | ||
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