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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
April 01 2017 15:27 GMT
#3581
GH is so good omg!
The team doesn't know how to play around him yet though he was pwning it left right and centre and the rest of the boys feeding -,-

Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-01 15:30:16
April 01 2017 15:28 GMT
#3582
On April 02 2017 00:25 Aurrius wrote:
Why was Miracle forced to play as a Support? Why is Kuroky forcing him to do this? This was the worst Performance from Liquid that i ever saw apart from the Bostom Major Qualifiers.

GH Is way better on it
Miracle historically is bad on initiators though (Nyx, Magnus, now slardar was meh) - they just don't suit his tempo

Wonder what they'll gonna do - this tournament was clearly to test it out to get ready for the Major
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
April 01 2017 15:30 GMT
#3583
On April 02 2017 00:25 Aurrius wrote:
Why was Miracle forced to play as a Support? Why is Kuroky forcing him to do this? This was the worst Performance from Liquid that i ever saw apart from the Bostom Major Qualifiers.

Yo get your shit straight, liquid is a team, and they probably made this decision as a team. GH naga was great btw. It's all fine, Kiev is the big deal this month.
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
April 01 2017 15:31 GMT
#3584
On April 02 2017 00:25 giftdgecko wrote:
Welp. Back to the drawing board. Boys will have to figure out what happened for the major, could be a good thing in the long run

Again not really have to figure anything out, they were trying new shit out with the GH swaps
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
April 01 2017 15:32 GMT
#3585
Shit happens in BO1s.

I don't think they failed nearly as hard as people are implying but sometimes lower bracket BO1s are a thing and that's that.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
April 01 2017 15:33 GMT
#3586
Well i know you cant win every tournament, but last place is brutal. Especially because we were supposed to be in good form
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-01 15:38:56
April 01 2017 15:38 GMT
#3587
Meanwhile og is in top form, which annoys me a little bit. I dont know somehow fly gets his shit together when it really matters, and kuro doesnt. And he has weaker players too overall.
jack_knife
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany343 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-01 15:42:08
April 01 2017 15:40 GMT
#3588
this is already their best strategy to win the game, gh played very solid naga games, but when other players not in their best conditions... MC played godawful last game, that was the worst Magnus show in DAC so far.
chabode
Profile Joined March 2017
330 Posts
April 01 2017 15:45 GMT
#3589
shit always happens in Bo1

when we aren't believing the worst outcome, somehow it come true. time to wait till kiev major then
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
April 01 2017 15:52 GMT
#3590
Its just that DAC got boring now. Another og win? Omg so exiting...well im salty right now i know it, so dont mind me;)
brinepumps
Profile Joined February 2015
Indonesia753 Posts
April 01 2017 15:57 GMT
#3591
If only this was bo3, pretty sure Liquid will come on top. Chin up, guys.

Although, i'm now wondering, what happened between starladder and dac?
"if you don't believe you can do it, then you have no chance at all" - Arsene Wenger
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
April 01 2017 16:02 GMT
#3592
On April 02 2017 00:57 brinepumps wrote:
If only this was bo3, pretty sure Liquid will come on top. Chin up, guys.

Although, i'm now wondering, what happened between starladder and dac?


They didn't bootcamp.

Liquid already went through a pretty lengthy bootcamp for the Starladder and DAC qualifiers so I assumed they skipped one this time in order to avoid fatigue within the team. Every bootcamp has been essential in the team's ability to play at the top level. Hopefully, they bootcamp for the Kiev Major and perform well there though.
sunrazgriz
Profile Joined April 2015
Vatican City State1573 Posts
April 01 2017 16:03 GMT
#3593
kuro is left , he let him self solo supporting the team when he needed aghs

MC also cant counter initiate ember, he should RP'ed ember every fight
6nnn
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
April 01 2017 16:10 GMT
#3594
Is not bootcamping really such a big deal? As an outsider i cant tell. If it is that important, then that makes this less surprising, because most of the other teams did bootcamp as far as i know.
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
April 01 2017 16:20 GMT
#3595
On April 02 2017 01:10 hunter_x wrote:
Is not bootcamping really such a big deal? As an outsider i cant tell. If it is that important, then that makes this less surprising, because most of the other teams did bootcamp as far as i know.


Yeah, Liquid does really well after bootcamps. The Boston Majors qualifier bootcamp was a huge turn around for the Bulba lineup and the GH lineup really started to shine during the bootcamp for the Starladder and DAC qualifiers. I hope a Kiev bootcamp can really bring the team back together and help them come up with more strategies, they still did okay at DAC in my mind but clearly not at the top of their game consistently.
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
April 01 2017 16:33 GMT
#3596
Then plz do more bootcamps guys, last place is not acceptable for a team with such great players;)
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-01 17:22:46
April 01 2017 17:22 GMT
#3597
Double post sry
Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
April 01 2017 18:08 GMT
#3598
better Team won that game, anyway Sunday gotta be a nice day and I don't need to choose to go out or watch dota, all is good, they think about their fans
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
April 01 2017 20:50 GMT
#3599
On March 31 2017 22:02 hunter_x wrote:
Against faceless my worries go against zero. They never even once beat us, if i remember corectly. Because we are the much better team, i expect feceless to try a cheese strat. And im pretty sure kuro is prepared for that. In a normal game, when both teams have their comfort picks i dont see a chance of us losing. Against wings or eg i would be much more worried;)



Eheh, no worries
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-01 21:57:48
April 01 2017 21:39 GMT
#3600
On April 02 2017 05:50 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2017 22:02 hunter_x wrote:
Against faceless my worries go against zero. They never even once beat us, if i remember corectly. Because we are the much better team, i expect feceless to try a cheese strat. And im pretty sure kuro is prepared for that. In a normal game, when both teams have their comfort picks i dont see a chance of us losing. Against wings or eg i would be much more worried;)



Eheh, no worries


You could pull this off if you did it before the game, after the fact callouts are cheap shots.

It feels to me like the Naga was Liquids most reliable strategy going into the tournament and that's why they played it vs Faceless. While Naga is good I don't think it has the same level of inevitability it had before the illusion nerfs. I hope Liquid plays more pro-active dota in the future, the 4 protect one strats don't seem suited towards a team with such potential for playmaking.

Matumbaman has been lacking an identity as a carry where none of his heroes besides perhaps the Lone Druid are ban material. Makes it really easy for teams to ban the GH Gandalf/ Io and the Miracle Invoker. MC also doesn't warrant any bans because his impact varies a lot depending on whether he can splitpush/ initiate with short CD's as opposed to when he has to play a supportive role to his cores.
I think esports is pretty nice.
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