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InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-30 23:41:16
March 30 2017 20:40 GMT
#3561
A team that is so good at 2 heroes that other teams have to respect ban them 1/2 should be able to win TI/any other big tornament based on the huge drafting advantage tbh (Alliance and EG previously did ). So I think Kuro is costing them pretty hard with his drafts. I feel like he's a very smart person, but maybe he is overrhinking stuff? Or his ego is getting in the way, either way it's tough to see them lose with those wacky drafts, like picking necro into dazzle etc. Sure sometimes it works and he looks like a genius, but I feel that a standard safe drafting style would yield better results given their talent and hero pool.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-31 06:13:12
March 31 2017 06:12 GMT
#3562
It really felt like they are not putting too much effort in this tournament - especially draft wise - maybe they want to try new things on the highest possible level preparing for the major. Also not being in the spotlight helps a lot. Historically people are always preparing for the top team - and then the favorite team loses. Being very unpredictable in the draft helps a lot.
Still i think that if an accident doesn't happen against Faceless in the Bo1s we will make it in to the top 4 for sure. From there - it will be very hard, but lets look it on the bright side - our boys will play a lot of games for us to watch!
Gear 3rd
Profile Joined July 2011
1244 Posts
March 31 2017 12:27 GMT
#3563
Am I the only one worried that TL didnt expect to face FL at all in this tournament actually and thus didnt prepare for them? this is the only thing I am worried about. Good thing there is the big-ish break between groups and Main event but still.. while i am kinda confident we will do it there is still a subtle bad feeling...
EXTERMINATE!
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-31 13:04:53
March 31 2017 13:02 GMT
#3564
Against faceless my worries go against zero. They never even once beat us, if i remember corectly. Because we are the much better team, i expect feceless to try a cheese strat. And im pretty sure kuro is prepared for that. In a normal game, when both teams have their comfort picks i dont see a chance of us losing. Against wings or eg i would be much more worried;)
Pontual
Profile Joined October 2016
Brazil3038 Posts
March 31 2017 13:07 GMT
#3565
Lmao if this is what you're worried about FL are much like OG, in the sense that they rely heavily on their offlane to make space for the other two cores. Their biggest difference is that their only actual good player is the offlaner, so if you make life bad for iceiceice, more often than not, the other 2 cores won't be able to do shit.
While in OG Jerax is a god and gank s4's lane all the time.

And even if i'm wayy off with my read, FL just isn't that scary. Sure they can win a bo1, but it's not worth preparing for them before going to any lan imo.
NInoff
Profile Joined August 2011
Bulgaria1105 Posts
March 31 2017 13:15 GMT
#3566
On March 31 2017 22:02 hunter_x wrote:
Against faceless my worries go against zero. They never even once beat us, if i remember corectly. Because we are the much better team, i expect feceless to try a cheese strat. And im pretty sure kuro is prepared for that. In a normal game, when both teams have their comfort picks i dont see a chance of us losing. Against wings or eg i would be much more worried;)

They can deffo own us with all in strat + a mistake + lucky rune + a small misplay. Those things happen. Bo1 is scary. Period. The only way its not is if i am playing against them as im way too bad to do shit
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
March 31 2017 18:32 GMT
#3567
Dude the game's so close now anything can happen in one BO3
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
pauzer
Profile Joined February 2014
United States6 Posts
March 31 2017 23:10 GMT
#3568
On March 31 2017 03:34 Pontual wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 31 2017 03:04 pauzer wrote:
Have these guys for 4th place in DAC, losing to Newbee LB round 4.

Well, do you have any reason to be sure about that? I mean, we don't even know if Newbee will go to LB or that liquid will get to round 4, and even if they meet i don't think you could be certain about any of the 2 winning.


No, not really. I just filled out my bracket like that based on what I've seen so far.
Don't confuse wisdom with knowledge.
juuto
Profile Joined January 2014
809 Posts
April 01 2017 00:46 GMT
#3569
You'd think third place would at least bless us fans with a better schedule. Why does this game have to be last? LMAO. Liquid and these Chinese events destroying my sleep but luckily I took a nap today...
caiovigg
Profile Joined July 2014
Brazil1802 Posts
April 01 2017 00:50 GMT
#3570
On April 01 2017 09:46 juuto wrote:
You'd think third place would at least bless us fans with a better schedule. Why does this game have to be last? LMAO. Liquid and these Chinese events destroying my sleep but luckily I took a nap today...


well, its the best time for me :p
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
April 01 2017 10:16 GMT
#3571
Man i cant wait for the game
jack_knife
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany343 Posts
April 01 2017 15:13 GMT
#3572
3 naga games in a row. xD gg.
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
April 01 2017 15:23 GMT
#3573
This is part two of Liquid's April's fools right?
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-01 15:24:32
April 01 2017 15:24 GMT
#3574
Oh boy this is disappointing. Last place
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-01 15:26:19
April 01 2017 15:25 GMT
#3575
RIP, that's disappointing, was expecting to be able to watch some Liquid dotes in the upcoming days
I think esports is pretty nice.
Aurrius
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany120 Posts
April 01 2017 15:25 GMT
#3576
Why was Miracle forced to play as a Support? Why is Kuroky forcing him to do this? This was the worst Performance from Liquid that i ever saw apart from the Bostom Major Qualifiers.
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
April 01 2017 15:25 GMT
#3577
Welp. Back to the drawing board. Boys will have to figure out what happened for the major, could be a good thing in the long run
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
April 01 2017 15:25 GMT
#3578
I hope they play better at kiew and epicenter, or i will babyrage a lot
Aurrius
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany120 Posts
April 01 2017 15:27 GMT
#3579
It feels like with the Position changes that Kuroky makes to Miracle that he's having no real Gameplan at all.
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-01 15:29:01
April 01 2017 15:27 GMT
#3580
On April 02 2017 00:25 Aurrius wrote:
Why was Miracle forced to play as a Support? Why is Kuroky forcing him to do this? This was the worst Performance from Liquid that i ever saw apart from the Bostom Major Qualifiers.


Apparently GH is their mid Naga player, so someone has to play the 4 position. I doubt the trade-off has been worth it though since both Matu and Miracle have a Naga.
I think esports is pretty nice.
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