• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:35
CET 14:35
KST 22:35
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled3Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains12Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series18BSL Season 224
StarCraft 2
General
BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Terran AddOns placement BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains
Tourneys
[GSL CK] Team Maru vs. Team herO WardiTV Team League Season 10 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Gypsy to Korea Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread Path of Exile No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC) Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Mexico's Drug War US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Gaming-Related Deaths
TrAiDoS
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3197 users

compLexity Discussion - Page 7

Forum Index > Dota 2 Player & Team Discussion
Post a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 All
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
June 03 2016 10:09 GMT
#121
Thing about col is that while they have been slowly but surely improving, the rate is much slower than their peers. They seem to lack that extra something to edge out games. Too many good performances but not converted into wins.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
June 03 2016 10:24 GMT
#122
On June 03 2016 12:32 Parkplayground wrote:
Col got fucking stomped... 2-28 for newbee i was having high hopes for atleast a good game but it ended before i even got out of loading screen


Something happened with the draft preparation for Newbee. They gave them pretty much all of their comfort heroes and so Newbee just ate them apart.

I didn't get a chance to watch the series against Empire, but the charts suggest it was closer. But the drafts seem a little off from complexity. Maybe they just have read the meta wrong, but they're looking at an early exit from Manila, pretty assuredly.
Mortecian
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada87 Posts
June 03 2016 12:49 GMT
#123
I think they are in a bad mindset at the moment. DC just defeated them 3-9 in their last engagements RIGHT before the major. . . They feel tilted. You see odd laning decisions. Missed spells out of nervousness.

I stopped watching after the first game vs newbee. Hope they wake up but I do not expect much ... Mindset is huge.
Parkplayground
Profile Joined August 2015
72 Posts
July 23 2016 03:36 GMT
#124
After watching the SL games against secret i think its safe to say that swindlezz needs to put some serious work into his laning skills because he set the ball rolling for secret to take game one, and he didnt feel like an impactful player game 2 (which should never be the case on a BM imo).
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
September 11 2018 22:40 GMT
#125
I never in my life imagined I'd ever cheer for compLexity, but I guess it's time to beliEEve. This roster looks really underwhelming though, which I'm sure means that they're going to win everything
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
September 12 2018 01:20 GMT
#126
Underwhelming lineup for EE. If he couldn't accomplish much with abed and dj (not even dominating SEA), I'm not sure what he can do with this stack. I like zfreek, but he really needs to move to a good team.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-12 02:46:07
September 12 2018 02:24 GMT
#127
Not a fan of EE playing support(mainly cause i wanted to see him play carry and that i believe his shotcalling is carry-oriented) but who knows how this will turn out.

He made NTH work as a support so it's not out of the realm of possibilities.

On September 12 2018 10:20 DucK- wrote:
**Underwhelming lineup for EE.** If he couldn't accomplish much with abed and dj (not even dominating SEA), I'm not sure what he can do with this stack. I like zfreek, but he really needs to move to a good team.

Idk i said the same thing with NP 1.0 but his still managed to actually land a 2nd place finish on a tournament. It's kinda weird how he managed to actually finish top 2 at least once on every single roster he played.
this is a quote
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
September 12 2018 07:32 GMT
#128
On September 12 2018 10:20 DucK- wrote:
Underwhelming lineup for EE. If he couldn't accomplish much with abed and dj (not even dominating SEA), I'm not sure what he can do with this stack. I like zfreek, but he really needs to move to a good team.


That Fnatic team was never on the same page. Given EE's fairly micro-manager-styled approach, he's probably better off trying to run a team from the 5. I also think moving to the 5 should let him develop through some of the issues when he was trying to run things from the carry position.

Also, in a dose of reality, ppd's stack is in EU and there's 3+1 slots to the first set of DPC LANs. If EE has spent a week working on his warding, he'll be able to easily turn games against the rest of NA competition, minus EG & SVG's stack. That's a pretty "easy" path to at least the first Minor.
Sapaio
Profile Joined October 2017
Denmark2037 Posts
September 12 2018 08:35 GMT
#129
Is it just me or is EE plus Zfreek a reciepe for disaster.
Think EE should be able to play 5. Move seem inspired by N0tail.
GO OG
Aznupdown
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada318 Posts
September 12 2018 13:26 GMT
#130
N0tail was originally a 5 on EU Fnatic wasn't he? IMO i believe that shot calling should always be made from a support position. As the hard-carry, EE would've been too distracted by looking for places to farm and avoiding being killed.
I said hiii
267
Profile Joined December 2017
64 Posts
September 12 2018 15:33 GMT
#131
I never seen Skem play but assuming that he got some talent I think this team could surprise.

Since I am of the crazy opinion that Limmp is an under valued player that never got a chance in a high caliber team, and that I would put Zfreek in a similiar category.

crocshark
Profile Joined July 2017
139 Posts
September 15 2018 09:41 GMT
#132
Despite what people say, EE team usually made into TI. I don't really like sneyking on pos3 tho.
broodbucket
Profile Joined July 2013
Australia963 Posts
September 29 2018 23:28 GMT
#133
A lot of people were really underwhelmed by this roster but I don't think a full team of allstars is what EE necessarily needs to do well. Most of his teams over the past few years have had strong peaks but were plagued by inconsistency, I think he just needs a roster that clicks.

I wasn't too impressed watching Skemberlu before but EE probably knows a good carry player when he sees one.

Sneyking is good enough for this team, at least for now. Even though he was underwhelming, he still got top 8 at TI.

In any case as a Jacky Mao stan, I'm pretty happy with this team. Can't judge them fully til Skem has been in NA for a while. I think the move back to pos 5 is good and I think compLexity is an incredible org so I'm hopeful.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44238 Posts
October 01 2018 08:30 GMT
#134
Skem might be the starplayer of the team(assuming that guy is actually good) but i feel like EE will have to look for some other pub player 1 pos player considering the visa/travelling issue situation his pinoy carry seem to be facing.

We might not likely see this current roster ever in its possible with the plaguing issues the pinoy player faces
this is a quote
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
October 15 2018 02:15 GMT
#135
So is Skem ever going to be a part of coL?
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
MirageTaN
Profile Joined June 2012
Singapore871 Posts
October 17 2018 14:44 GMT
#136
why is jeyo playing for coL, its actually triggering how much impact he has on the game.
#TLWIN TI7, TLDota BEST TL
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
October 18 2018 01:34 GMT
#137
Glad the boys made it to the playoffs of King's Cup, hope they can at least make it to the finals!
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-18 08:56:18
October 18 2018 08:55 GMT
#138
Jeyo has been standing in because Skem hasn't been able to come to NA. I think his visa application to the US hasn't gone through. Not sure how long it should take. It's not a regular tourist visa but a more permanent one (not sure what exactly it is called).

But they did say that Skem is able to come to ESL and Dreamleague so they'll play with their full lineup at those events. Though at this point they haven't played a single game with Skem so it might take some time to get used to. ESL at least has a pretty extensive group stage with lots of games even if you don't do well so it's good preparation before the minor.
Prev 1 5 6 7 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 10h 25m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 617
RushiSC 4
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 47787
EffOrt 1736
BeSt 984
Mini 820
Soma 599
actioN 532
Light 488
Rush 420
ZerO 408
Stork 164
[ Show more ]
Sea.KH 68
Mind 66
Leta 65
IntoTheRainbow 47
ToSsGirL 40
sorry 37
Backho 35
[sc1f]eonzerg 34
Nal_rA 29
ajuk12(nOOB) 19
Bale 12
zelot 11
JulyZerg 8
Terrorterran 2
Icarus 2
Dota 2
qojqva744
Counter-Strike
fl0m2403
olofmeister1582
markeloff89
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor156
Other Games
singsing2154
B2W.Neo1398
Lowko362
crisheroes354
shoxiejesuss338
Pyrionflax147
Hui .122
ZerO(Twitch)12
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream20270
Other Games
gamesdonequick905
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 20
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2369
• Nemesis2150
• TFBlade962
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
10h 25m
CranKy Ducklings
20h 25m
RSL Revival
20h 25m
MaxPax vs Rogue
Clem vs Bunny
WardiTV Team League
22h 25m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 3h
Patches Events
1d 3h
BSL
1d 6h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 20h
RSL Revival
1d 20h
ByuN vs SHIN
Maru vs Krystianer
WardiTV Team League
1d 22h
[ Show More ]
BSL
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
WardiTV Team League
3 days
GSL
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Team League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-12
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.