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Manit0u
Poland17236 Posts
compLexity Gaming Website twitter Facebook February 2015 Dota 2 Canada Cup Season 4 December 2014 Battle of America October 2014 Dota 2 Canada Cup Season 3 | ||
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SpeaKEaSY
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CrownRoyal
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I really doubt any other team will practice as much as they will. The difficult part will be surviving through this stage when they are losing more than winning. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17236 Posts
I still think their performance is really good considering that they've been playing DotA for what, 2-3 months? Their games against Empire in EMC2 were pretty good, despite them losing. And overall their performance is quite OK so far. | ||
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hubwub
United States40 Posts
On September 15 2014 01:11 Manit0u wrote: Thought it would be prudent to create a thread for coL's return to the scene, considering how successful they were back in 2012. Will need a better picture though, to stay on par with the other threads... I'll get you a better graphic.  | ||
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SpeaKEaSY
United States1070 Posts
For those of you who didn't follow these players from back in HoN, here's a post game interview from NASL. 3/5 players from the current coL DotA2 after their win over 3/5 players from the old FnaticMSI DotA2 (also Tralf and Gretorp), it's crazy how young some people looked just 3 years ago | ||
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reDicE
United States1020 Posts
So is B9 replacing riser? | ||
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KOFgokuon
United States14892 Posts
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Tephus
Cascadia1753 Posts
http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/4434/ tldr: riser leaves, bloodynine added. | ||
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SpeaKEaSY
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KOFgokuon
United States14892 Posts
Should just get mynuts or another of their former supports | ||
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eieio
United States14512 Posts
Also Jimmy is pretty good now that he doesn't throw super hard but agreed that he doesn't really make sense in a non-core position. Can't see him being the kind of player to play without farm. | ||
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SpeaKEaSY
United States1070 Posts
in any case, it looks like dragonfist is coL's current goto standin... with moon playing support. who knows how long this will last, though the times I've gotten a peek at moon's stream, he's been playing supports in the past couple of days. | ||
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bagels21
United States4357 Posts
On December 01 2014 15:03 SpeaKEaSY wrote: isn't mynuts on lajons with era? in any case, it looks like dragonfist is coL's current goto standin... with moon playing support. who knows how long this will last, though the times I've gotten a peek at moon's stream, he's been playing supports in the past couple of days. mynuts is now on the new alliance with chessie (according to Loda/Akke) | ||
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Dorner
Ireland22 Posts
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Julmust
Sweden4867 Posts
On December 01 2014 15:14 bagels21 wrote: mynuts is now on the new alliance with chessie (according to Loda/Akke) Wait wasn't that just for DH? | ||
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bagels21
United States4357 Posts
Another poster said that on a TV6 interview, Akke said that the new roster would be loda/akke/ab/chessie/mynuts | ||
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Dorner
Ireland22 Posts
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SpeaKEaSY
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
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drusalnik
Bulgaria133 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17236 Posts
On December 13 2014 04:19 SupLilSon wrote: Will Waga play 1 role for them instead of moon or mid instead of swindlemellonz? In all honesty, Swindlemellonz has not impressed me at all with his mid play, albeit I don't pay too much attention to this team. It seems like his hero pool is super limited and really only includes simple to play heroes. I feel like whenever I watch he's usually losing mid or at best going even. Maybe I'm biased against him from HoN.. Waga seems like a much higher caliber player but idk if swindlemellonz could play any other role... I guess he picks simple heroes because of his role as a team captain? He needs to coordinate things and all that. | ||
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SpeaKEaSY
United States1070 Posts
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Tephus
Cascadia1753 Posts
Bendi Jipples Squeei bkid louithegewy | ||
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reDicE
United States1020 Posts
On February 24 2015 07:05 Tephus wrote: Players spotted playing with coL (zfreek + swindle) over the past few days: Bendi Jipples Squeei bkid louithegewy Isn't Bendi just Bkid's alt name? | ||
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Tephus
Cascadia1753 Posts
Could be, I don't know though. | ||
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SpeaKEaSY
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Manit0u
Poland17236 Posts
Even that would be better: ![[image loading]](http://static.esportsea.com/global/images/teams/23105.jpg) Thanks in advance. | ||
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reDicE
United States1020 Posts
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Elyvilon
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CrownRoyal
Vatican City State1872 Posts
On September 16 2014 15:59 CrownRoyal wrote: they will be in the international in 2015. I really doubt any other team will practice as much as they will. The difficult part will be surviving through this stage when they are losing more than winning. EZ | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On May 29 2015 10:47 Manit0u wrote: Could we please get an update on the coL logo showing up in people's posts? It looks so pixelated... Even that would be better: Thanks in advance. And update the first post, Linmp still shows in line up. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Kuroeeah
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reDicE
United States1020 Posts
On May 29 2015 11:26 Kuroeeah wrote: Congratulations. This marks Complexity's long return to an International. Liquid`MoonMierda incoming  | ||
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goody153
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EZ BOOBGRAB lol | ||
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DucK-
Singapore11446 Posts
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9858 Posts
Congratulations to them, well deserved. Hopefully they wont go out the NAR way in TI4. | ||
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Nerfed
Russian Federation1132 Posts
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shouldbeworking
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weiliem
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They really respect tal's captaining. My Fnatic boy is back in action. Yeah! | ||
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reDicE
United States1020 Posts
On May 29 2015 18:00 weiliem wrote: They really respect tal's captaining. My Fnatic boy is back in action. Yeah! Swindle(kyle) is the captain, not tal | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
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reDicE
United States1020 Posts
On May 29 2015 18:08 ahswtini wrote: swindle does the drafting, but does he ingame captain too? pretty sure he does. if you listen to the video someone says "nice job, kyle. nice captaining, dude" and someone else says "yeah, nice drafting, man". | ||
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weiliem
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Oh really? Haha. Still glad to see them do well | ||
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
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Tyestor
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bumwithagun
United States153 Posts
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dizzy101
Netherlands2066 Posts
2-0 Na'Vi ???? Very nice | ||
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Beirut
United States673 Posts
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On July 29 2015 05:38 Beirut wrote: They're doing really well! A lot better than I think anyone anticipated. I might expect them to fall a bit in the rankings on Days 3 & 4 though... they have a tough schedule ahead. They still haven't played Fnatic, C9, Secret They went 1-1 with IG. Considering their first 3 games vs Chinese teams were disasters, that they won game 4 gives me some hope for them. They are looking surprisingly good. | ||
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goody153
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On July 29 2015 18:21 goody153 wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtwxbEqTqpM&list=PLxkyNsoBqOdDSBCNH9gQ2Zdg--_TUYWQv&index=5 Very Cool, all these player intros are great. | ||
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pat777
United States356 Posts
On July 29 2015 05:38 Beirut wrote: They're doing really well! A lot better than I think anyone anticipated. I might expect them to fall a bit in the rankings on Days 3 & 4 though... they have a tough schedule ahead. They still haven't played Fnatic, C9, Secret http://www.ongamers.com/articles/career-interview-with-ludwig-zai-wahlberg-of-evil-geniuses/1100-1241/ "We were just not on the same level as sG, they were far superior to us and every other team, and we were constantly the underdogs going into matches. Besides all they ran was this one strategy, and we were too stupid to figure out how to counter it, although i’m pretty sure they were just abusing the stale balancing of the game." Read what Zai said about the Freedman brothers (they were on sG) back in 2014. These guys were actually better than ppd and Zai at HoN. I don't think that's going to carry on in dota (at least not in ti5) since ppd and Zai are on much better teams now. Still, their skill from HoN does seem to somewhat translate into skill in dota. | ||
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HighTimeDotA
Canada1412 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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SpeaKEaSY
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
what an investment from Complexity organization to get this squad Hope Naz does something similar for the majors at least | ||
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spudde123
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On July 31 2015 06:11 spudde123 wrote: Impressive performance by coL, I didn't see a lot of their games but I really liked their drafting today. Really curious to see how they will do in the playoffs. The second game vs Fnatic was great comeback and crazy play. | ||
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spudde123
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Not that it necessarily translates into anything in dota, but I think it sets up a very interesting match. I'm sure also in their own minds EG sees themselves as the heavy favorite. coL on the other hand plays with much less pressure and perhaps due to their competitive experience from HoN and knowing PPD from there they won't mentally crumble. And judging by their drafting this far they will come very well prepared. Though I have a hard time seeing EG dropping the series, but I'm still excited to see it. | ||
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pat777
United States356 Posts
On July 31 2015 21:43 spudde123 wrote: I'm really looking forward to seeing coL vs EG. It's a very interesting matchup. Although I don't know PPD's history with the coL guys from HoN fully, my understanding is that at least at some point they were rivals and swindle etc. were coming out on top? Not that it necessarily translates into anything in dota, but I think it sets up a very interesting match. I'm sure also in their own minds EG sees themselves as the heavy favorite. coL on the other hand plays with much less pressure and perhaps due to their competitive experience from HoN and knowing PPD from there they won't mentally crumble. And judging by their drafting this far they will come very well prepared. Though I have a hard time seeing EG dropping the series, but I'm still excited to see it. Here's something ppd posted about swindle to get you more hyped for this series. https://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?502374-Why-sG-disbanded | ||
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Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On August 01 2015 01:33 pat777 wrote: Here's something ppd posted about swindle to get you more hyped for this series. https://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?502374-Why-sG-disbanded was this actually true? | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
That's the kind of question that no one will really know. | ||
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Kabras
Romania3508 Posts
i mean ppd's cynical and cocky at times and he can be a bad loser but he doesn't strike me as a guy who would make up this kind of shit. tho it is 2 years old and i know nothing about the hon scene so idk. | ||
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Pacifist
Israel1683 Posts
It turned out to be mostly lies. Either PPD was making it up, or more likely, had a bad source. There's another thread as well as a youtube video on Swindle's official response. The tax/stealing money part was definitely fake, and S2 confirmed that they worked with Swindle to ensure everyone received equal prize money. | ||
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goody153
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On August 01 2015 03:29 Pacifist wrote: Interestingly, in the youtube video Swindle actually calls out Moon for being an "evil, vile" human being. Guess they kissed and made up. TI5 pull is powerful mate i mean even Aui who petitioned to #removetechies played techies on TI5 xD | ||
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Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On August 01 2015 03:42 goody153 wrote: TI5 pull is powerful mate i mean even Aui who petitioned to #removetechies played techies on TI5 xD the two of them have been together on coL for like a year. | ||
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goody153
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On August 01 2015 05:05 Elyvilon wrote: the two of them have been together on coL for like a year. oh swinde and moon alright | ||
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SpeaKEaSY
United States1070 Posts
On August 01 2015 03:26 Pacifist wrote: It turned out to be mostly lies. Either PPD was making it up, or more likely, had a bad source. There's another thread as well as a youtube video on Swindle's official response. The tax/stealing money part was definitely fake, and S2 confirmed that they worked with Swindle to ensure everyone received equal prize money. I don't think it's that simple... If I remember correctly, PPD got the info secondhand through Khezu (who was one of swindle's teammates who allegedly got his winnings withheld). There was a lot of back and forth going on, and I think ultimately people got paid what they deserved, but it left a bad enough of a taste in Khezu and sLiCKz mouths that they left staygreen even though they were winning all the tournaments. | ||
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Pacifist
Israel1683 Posts
On August 01 2015 07:19 SpeaKEaSY wrote: I don't think it's that simple... If I remember correctly, PPD got the info secondhand through Khezu (who was one of swindle's teammates who allegedly got his winnings withheld). There was a lot of back and forth going on, and I think ultimately people got paid what they deserved, but it left a bad enough of a taste in Khezu and sLiCKz mouths that they left staygreen even though they were winning all the tournaments. I actually just read through the old forums today and my understanding is the following: Yes, winnings were withheld for a while as that's what the US tax code mandates for foreigners earning money in the country. They eventually got it sorted out (albeit it was a contentious process and Swindle/his dad may have lied about consulting an accountant even though they were ultimately correct in withholding the $) and everyone got their fair share. All of this was resolved BEFORE ppd publicly posted that swindle stole money from Khezu/Slickz. It did leave a bad taste in Khezu/Slickz mouth, and probably prompted them to leave sG, but that was after it got resolved. So when ppd posted the story, Khezu could have easily said something like "he didn't steal money from us, he withheld it per US tax laws and worked with S2 to get it to us and we eventually received it" but instead said something vague like "i don't confirm or deny these allegations" which simply added fuel to the fire and created a public spectacle. It turns out Khezu had an agenda because he was mad at Swindle for wanting to kick Slickz. However people weren't sure why he was so mad as at the time Swindle told him this Khezu/Slickz were planning to leave anyways. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10653 Posts
Anyways, cheering for my boys coL to show good games! | ||
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SpeaKEaSY
United States1070 Posts
On August 01 2015 07:55 Pacifist wrote: I actually just read through the old forums today and my understanding is the following: Yes, winnings were withheld for a while as that's what the US tax code mandates for foreigners earning money in the country. They eventually got it sorted out (albeit it was a contentious process and Swindle/his dad may have lied about consulting an accountant even though they were ultimately correct in withholding the $) and everyone got their fair share. All of this was resolved BEFORE ppd publicly posted that swindle stole money from Khezu/Slickz. It did leave a bad taste in Khezu/Slickz mouth, and probably prompted them to leave sG, but that was after it got resolved. So when ppd posted the story, Khezu could have easily said something like "he didn't steal money from us, he withheld it per US tax laws and worked with S2 to get it to us and we eventually received it" but instead said something vague like "i don't confirm or deny these allegations" which simply added fuel to the fire and created a public spectacle. It turns out Khezu had an agenda because he was mad at Swindle for wanting to kick Slickz. However people weren't sure why he was so mad as at the time Swindle told him this Khezu/Slickz were planning to leave anyways. Again, not that simple or one-sided. Khezu said I don't cofirm or deny those allegations because he told Peter about that stuff in secret and Peter (who has a long standing and very public grudge against Swindle) wasn't supposed to leak it to the public but did. There seems to be a lot of stuff that went on behind the scenes that people allude to but don't get into detail because enough things had already went public that shouldn't have been made public. Khezu was mad at swindle even before the tournament because he didn't like how Swindle treated him, most apparent in the infamous Khezu scout with wolves video (original vid has been taken down otherwise I'd link it). There's more to it than that but I'm not really interested in dredging up ancient history to smear players on a team I'm fans of/players that aren't even relevant to DotA2 at the moment. I think it's sufficient to say that it was a complicated issue involving multiple events, laws in multiple countries, teenage egos, and lots of different people who handled things in the worst way possible, but that's basically how things were done in HoN and it's in the past now. Swindle called Moon a vile human being who he regretted shaking hands with, and Moon quit coL as recently as earlier this year citing disagreements with swindle, but nowadays they're praising each others' qualities in interviews. Yeah, HoN drama might be fun to read for the same reasons why people buy tabloid magazines like National Enquirer, but pretty much all that needs to be understood is there's bad blood between the two players stemming from a controversial roster decision to kick ppd a long time ago, a lot of stuff happened in between, and both went on a collision course by switching to DotA2. Peter is being hailed as one of the best captains/drafters on NA's top team. Swindle is being praised as a great captain on NA's up and coming team. The two are now meeting in the first round of the main event of the biggest tournament in eSports history. get hyped USA USA USA | ||
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wims80
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Mortecian
Canada87 Posts
Been watching this crew for a long time and was expecting them to break out into the dota scene eventually. These guys will put in the hours to make it big. They might not have success yet but they have the method to achieve it in time. Wish them luck against EG. The real tournament starts soon. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17236 Posts
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goody153
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On August 04 2015 21:43 Manit0u wrote: Definitely Complexity and MVP.Phoenix are the biggest surprises of TI 2015. CDEC yo they are expected to be the weakest chinese team but they have been better than IG/VG | ||
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lolnoty
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Anamorph
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I know it s easier to join a company who already got sponsorings etc. and the business is not easy to manage as a player, but they should have mixed up a different squad. Saksa is super strong as a player, not cause he is 8k, he is outstanding in all the plays I saw, he would be a very good choice for the 3 sweds. Rly strong team: Chessie, Limmp, Handsken, Saksa, Pajkatt. That would be awesome! | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
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tehh4ck3r
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Atreides
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On November 26 2015 17:08 Atreides wrote: I actually think this team could be pretty good, Its a shame kind of that they lost moonmeander to secret. Swindle on offlane is the one I am most doubtful of I think. it really does hurt them when hes offlane and limmp has a limited hero pool. feel like other team can get around it but they'll have to figure something out | ||
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Mortecian
Canada87 Posts
Still looks like this patch isn't figured out and a lot of curve balls to be had. | ||
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njt7
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Mortecian
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
On March 05 2016 09:57 Mortecian wrote: Well played against Alliance. Very exciting games. Good luck against EG. The moment of Truth is upon us. | ||
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
Does anything know if they're 100% invited to next Major since they placed 5-6th? | ||
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scorpkx
Australia19 Posts
On March 05 2016 13:36 lolnoty wrote: coL did awesome this tournament. I think they could have gone further if they weren't unlucky in groups/bracket to face EG. The Alliance win was huge. Does anything know if they're 100% invited to next Major since they placed 5-6th? for shanghai the top 6 teams from frankfurt got direct invites. then they gave to invites to team that had done well after frankfurt (alliance and VP). so it is very likely that both coL, fnatic and MVP will get direct invites for the spring major. | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11446 Posts
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goody153
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http://esports.inquirer.net/14837/the-complexity-of-complexity-an-interview-with-swindlemelonzz 2nd time apart from EE that somebody commented that EG got stronger with the departure of Universe and rtz | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17236 Posts
On April 20 2016 00:51 goody153 wrote: Kyle the Captain interview http://esports.inquirer.net/14837/the-complexity-of-complexity-an-interview-with-swindlemelonzz 2nd time apart from EE that somebody commented that EG got stronger with the departure of Universe and rtz I'd keep Universe but get rid of RTZ (I find that people overestimate him a lot). | ||
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turpentine
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beating EG: priceless | ||
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pajoondies
United States316 Posts
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
Their individual talent isn't the tops but that attitude is so much the underpinnings of sustained success. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On May 11 2016 11:37 Manit0u wrote: I'd keep Universe but get rid of RTZ (I find that people overestimate him a lot). I feel like Universe isn't that hungry for success anymore, but then again I feel the same way for a couple of other EG players. They seemed to just be going through the motions for quite some time. Aui and Bulba have got something to prove, and have the skill to prove it. If anything it's the EG's core (all 3 of them) that I'd worry more about. | ||
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Titusmaster6
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Tephus
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Atoissen
Norway1737 Posts
On May 15 2016 00:22 pajoondies wrote: Gotta say that Col is one of my favorite teams now, they just keep getting better and better as time passes. I would love to see them grab a top 4 finish at Manila. I agree with this. I was a big fan of NiP before, and really like Swindlez attitude... No bullshit, just straight forward and says what he wants. With a little more time, this team will win a LAN (majors are a different kind of monster ).Grats on the well deserved victory vrs EG and a nice 4'th at Epi  | ||
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Parkplayground
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2-28 for newbee i was having high hopes for atleast a good game but it ended before i even got out of loading screen | ||
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Singapore11446 Posts
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On June 03 2016 12:32 Parkplayground wrote: Col got fucking stomped... 2-28 for newbee i was having high hopes for atleast a good game but it ended before i even got out of loading screen Something happened with the draft preparation for Newbee. They gave them pretty much all of their comfort heroes and so Newbee just ate them apart. I didn't get a chance to watch the series against Empire, but the charts suggest it was closer. But the drafts seem a little off from complexity. Maybe they just have read the meta wrong, but they're looking at an early exit from Manila, pretty assuredly. | ||
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Mortecian
Canada87 Posts
I stopped watching after the first game vs newbee. Hope they wake up but I do not expect much ... Mindset is huge. | ||
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goody153
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He made NTH work as a support so it's not out of the realm of possibilities. On September 12 2018 10:20 DucK- wrote: **Underwhelming lineup for EE.** If he couldn't accomplish much with abed and dj (not even dominating SEA), I'm not sure what he can do with this stack. I like zfreek, but he really needs to move to a good team. Idk i said the same thing with NP 1.0 but his still managed to actually land a 2nd place finish on a tournament. It's kinda weird how he managed to actually finish top 2 at least once on every single roster he played. | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On September 12 2018 10:20 DucK- wrote: Underwhelming lineup for EE. If he couldn't accomplish much with abed and dj (not even dominating SEA), I'm not sure what he can do with this stack. I like zfreek, but he really needs to move to a good team. That Fnatic team was never on the same page. Given EE's fairly micro-manager-styled approach, he's probably better off trying to run a team from the 5. I also think moving to the 5 should let him develop through some of the issues when he was trying to run things from the carry position. Also, in a dose of reality, ppd's stack is in EU and there's 3+1 slots to the first set of DPC LANs. If EE has spent a week working on his warding, he'll be able to easily turn games against the rest of NA competition, minus EG & SVG's stack. That's a pretty "easy" path to at least the first Minor. | ||
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Sapaio
Denmark2037 Posts
Think EE should be able to play 5. Move seem inspired by N0tail. | ||
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Aznupdown
Canada318 Posts
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Since I am of the crazy opinion that Limmp is an under valued player that never got a chance in a high caliber team, and that I would put Zfreek in a similiar category. | ||
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broodbucket
Australia963 Posts
I wasn't too impressed watching Skemberlu before but EE probably knows a good carry player when he sees one. Sneyking is good enough for this team, at least for now. Even though he was underwhelming, he still got top 8 at TI. In any case as a Jacky Mao stan, I'm pretty happy with this team. Can't judge them fully til Skem has been in NA for a while. I think the move back to pos 5 is good and I think compLexity is an incredible org so I'm hopeful. | ||
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goody153
44060 Posts
We might not likely see this current roster ever in its possible with the plaguing issues the pinoy player faces | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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MirageTaN
Singapore871 Posts
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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spudde123
4814 Posts
But they did say that Skem is able to come to ESL and Dreamleague so they'll play with their full lineup at those events. Though at this point they haven't played a single game with Skem so it might take some time to get used to. ESL at least has a pretty extensive group stage with lots of games even if you don't do well so it's good preparation before the minor. | ||
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