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caiovigg
Profile Joined July 2014
Brazil1802 Posts
October 06 2014 22:10 GMT
#101
On October 07 2014 06:42 Emnjay808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 05:51 caiovigg wrote:
So, EG bought both secret and TT?

I'm at school right now. Can you list source or rumor?


srbelvedere(patch note guy) teases, EG twitter mentioning sing, charlie beeing the first person to deny youporn...

I acctually don't like the idea of an organization having 4 GOOD teams
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
October 06 2014 22:50 GMT
#102
On October 04 2014 02:28 caiovigg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2014 02:13 JD. wrote:
Secret making it look too easy.
What happens when teams ban Wisp and actually impede Puppey's Enigma though?

Does anyone know if any players (including those from Secret) have said anything about their scrim records?



Puppey will pick mirana and shot arrows in their faces

about their scrims, we only have EE saying:

Show nested quote +


What do you think about all the new western teams?

We already beat Secret Team in scrims. I actually think they suck but apparently they own everyone else. They do decently well with everyone else. Obviously they're not as good as people say they are just based on the star power. You'd think they would dominate everyone but none of them are used to their roles. Everyone switched roles except Puppey, like even Kuroky is half support half carry. They don't really understand their roles and I don't know how much time they'll need to adjust to that. Hopefully for them they don't lose too much. If you lose too much, even though you need time to adjust, you can't because you're already too negative.


But they got REKT by TS like one week after, so I guess EE is just talking shit...

link to the interview: http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-general/466445-c9eternalenvy-interview-at-wec-i-really-dont-like-how-xiao8-retired

i think EE based his opinion off of a limited subset, and also when secret were still adjusting their roles
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
October 07 2014 00:46 GMT
#103
On October 07 2014 07:10 caiovigg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 06:42 Emnjay808 wrote:
On October 07 2014 05:51 caiovigg wrote:
So, EG bought both secret and TT?

I'm at school right now. Can you list source or rumor?


srbelvedere(patch note guy) teases, EG twitter mentioning sing, charlie beeing the first person to deny youporn...

I acctually don't like the idea of an organization having 4 GOOD teams

I really hope it's not true. I was okay with EG having Alliance in EU and EG in NA, different regions I suppose (same with NaVi). VP having polar wasn't a big deal either as I don't expect them to be a T1 team ever. But TT, Secret, Alliance and EG just seems like it's taking advantage of the money that's going into Dota right now. I hope that Secret announces their sponsor soon regardless
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
October 07 2014 07:54 GMT
#104
On October 07 2014 09:46 giftdgecko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 07:10 caiovigg wrote:
On October 07 2014 06:42 Emnjay808 wrote:
On October 07 2014 05:51 caiovigg wrote:
So, EG bought both secret and TT?

I'm at school right now. Can you list source or rumor?


srbelvedere(patch note guy) teases, EG twitter mentioning sing, charlie beeing the first person to deny youporn...

I acctually don't like the idea of an organization having 4 GOOD teams

I really hope it's not true. I was okay with EG having Alliance in EU and EG in NA, different regions I suppose (same with NaVi). VP having polar wasn't a big deal either as I don't expect them to be a T1 team ever. But TT, Secret, Alliance and EG just seems like it's taking advantage of the money that's going into Dota right now. I hope that Secret announces their sponsor soon regardless

If it's true, it's also a ginormous risk on EG's part since you will run out of sponsors currently. Bringing in Secret and TT will encourage a new wave of sponsors but after that, you'll kinda run out of space to put your tags, and the interview plugs will take minutes too long. I really hope that it's DK.eu actually. Just to throw it out there.
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govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
October 07 2014 08:07 GMT
#105
On October 07 2014 16:54 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 09:46 giftdgecko wrote:
On October 07 2014 07:10 caiovigg wrote:
On October 07 2014 06:42 Emnjay808 wrote:
On October 07 2014 05:51 caiovigg wrote:
So, EG bought both secret and TT?

I'm at school right now. Can you list source or rumor?


srbelvedere(patch note guy) teases, EG twitter mentioning sing, charlie beeing the first person to deny youporn...

I acctually don't like the idea of an organization having 4 GOOD teams

I really hope it's not true. I was okay with EG having Alliance in EU and EG in NA, different regions I suppose (same with NaVi). VP having polar wasn't a big deal either as I don't expect them to be a T1 team ever. But TT, Secret, Alliance and EG just seems like it's taking advantage of the money that's going into Dota right now. I hope that Secret announces their sponsor soon regardless

If it's true, it's also a ginormous risk on EG's part since you will run out of sponsors currently. Bringing in Secret and TT will encourage a new wave of sponsors but after that, you'll kinda run out of space to put your tags, and the interview plugs will take minutes too long. I really hope that it's DK.eu actually. Just to throw it out there.


I think more teams means less risk. All the sponsorships in esports havent changed much in two years and they wont for the next couple of years. If EG acts like a teamhub from now on they could have alot better survivability then when they just had 1 team.
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JD.
Profile Joined September 2014
Australia250 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-07 13:22:30
October 07 2014 09:46 GMT
#106
Poll: Secret Team's Sponsor

Not EG (43)
 
93%

EG (3)
 
7%

46 total votes

Your vote: Secret Team's Sponsor

(Vote): EG
(Vote): Not EG

Slomo
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany7198 Posts
October 07 2014 14:12 GMT
#107
On October 07 2014 07:10 caiovigg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 06:42 Emnjay808 wrote:
On October 07 2014 05:51 caiovigg wrote:
So, EG bought both secret and TT?

I'm at school right now. Can you list source or rumor?


srbelvedere(patch note guy) teases, EG twitter mentioning sing, charlie beeing the first person to deny youporn...

I acctually don't like the idea of an organization having 4 GOOD teams

+ Virtus Pro twitter posting the 4 team logos (EG, A, TT, Secret) and tweeting "what do all these teams have in common?".

Agree. Having 4 top teams from the same organisation/owner will be bullshit for the scene. Endes "did TEAM A throw on purpose" every game etc.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10910 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-07 14:37:48
October 07 2014 14:36 GMT
#108
They all have at least 1 swede playing in them? :p


I seriously hope it won't be more EG Teams... I would hate that so much.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
October 07 2014 14:43 GMT
#109
Could well be they are also managing teams for a certain fee, profitshare or whatever, in that way the teams would hire EG instead of EG aquiring a 2 aditional teams.
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Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
October 07 2014 17:10 GMT
#110
I don't think it will be EG technically, just Alex Garfield or the goodgame agency owning them. They might share a few sponsors, but I think it's much more efficient to talk with a sponsor and offer him 1-4 teams to sponsor in different parts of the world and let them decide. They can just wet their feet in ESPORTS or go all out with their logos plastered on podiums of every LAN event in NA or EU.

That's assuming the rumors are true.
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Zandar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1541 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-07 18:24:21
October 07 2014 18:03 GMT
#111
And there goes [A]dmiralbulldog.HyperX and kills Secret.Puppey.HyperX.
It reminds me a lot of that game where Liquid'Bulba.HyperX owned EG.PPD.HyperX.
Stay tuned for next game where we will see a mid clash of the titans between EG.Arteezy.HyperX and TeamTinker.SingSing.HyperX
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
October 07 2014 18:50 GMT
#112
There can never be enough EG teams for Alex Garfield.
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giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
October 07 2014 19:40 GMT
#113
On October 08 2014 02:10 Zaphid wrote:
I don't think it will be EG technically, just Alex Garfield or the goodgame agency owning them. They might share a few sponsors, but I think it's much more efficient to talk with a sponsor and offer him 1-4 teams to sponsor in different parts of the world and let them decide. They can just wet their feet in ESPORTS or go all out with their logos plastered on podiums of every LAN event in NA or EU.

That's assuming the rumors are true.

Same problem I had before. If there actually is a "neutral" agency or company that is working on marketing teams the 322 potential is gonna be there. Whether it happens or not, the fact that it can be asked if X lost to Y because their agency wanted to increase Y's exposure to score a contract with a sponsor shouldn't be allowed to happen. Too many pieces moving through one area. I'd love it if they just kept the name secret and found a few sponsors like razor and hyperX but that is a lot of extra work.
caiovigg
Profile Joined July 2014
Brazil1802 Posts
October 07 2014 20:13 GMT
#114
On October 08 2014 04:40 giftdgecko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 02:10 Zaphid wrote:
I don't think it will be EG technically, just Alex Garfield or the goodgame agency owning them. They might share a few sponsors, but I think it's much more efficient to talk with a sponsor and offer him 1-4 teams to sponsor in different parts of the world and let them decide. They can just wet their feet in ESPORTS or go all out with their logos plastered on podiums of every LAN event in NA or EU.

That's assuming the rumors are true.

Same problem I had before. If there actually is a "neutral" agency or company that is working on marketing teams the 322 potential is gonna be there. Whether it happens or not, the fact that it can be asked if X lost to Y because their agency wanted to increase Y's exposure to score a contract with a sponsor shouldn't be allowed to happen. Too many pieces moving through one area. I'd love it if they just kept the name secret and found a few sponsors like razor and hyperX but that is a lot of extra work.


Yup. Remember TI4? EG x Alliance was one of the last games played, and people were saying EG would throw so alliance had a chance to qualify to the main event.
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
October 07 2014 21:45 GMT
#115
On October 08 2014 04:40 giftdgecko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 02:10 Zaphid wrote:
I don't think it will be EG technically, just Alex Garfield or the goodgame agency owning them. They might share a few sponsors, but I think it's much more efficient to talk with a sponsor and offer him 1-4 teams to sponsor in different parts of the world and let them decide. They can just wet their feet in ESPORTS or go all out with their logos plastered on podiums of every LAN event in NA or EU.

That's assuming the rumors are true.

Same problem I had before. If there actually is a "neutral" agency or company that is working on marketing teams the 322 potential is gonna be there. Whether it happens or not, the fact that it can be asked if X lost to Y because their agency wanted to increase Y's exposure to score a contract with a sponsor shouldn't be allowed to happen. Too many pieces moving through one area. I'd love it if they just kept the name secret and found a few sponsors like razor and hyperX but that is a lot of extra work.

With how random team performances are, selling teams based on 1 or 2 results seems crazy, but I understand. I think it's still asinine to suggest people would be throwing games intentionally, just like when teammates fight in SC2, but it's hard to kill the argument.
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
October 07 2014 21:50 GMT
#116
The real issue is with qualification. This has been an issue in open-wheel racing where cars from the same team will let teammates pass them for the team's greater good in qualification score. Of course in that situation in the end it is the individual performances that matter just like in Dota but that doesn't stop there being incentive at points in the tournament for a throw to take place.
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bludragen88
Profile Joined August 2008
United States527 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-07 22:02:19
October 07 2014 22:01 GMT
#117
On October 08 2014 05:13 caiovigg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 04:40 giftdgecko wrote:
On October 08 2014 02:10 Zaphid wrote:
I don't think it will be EG technically, just Alex Garfield or the goodgame agency owning them. They might share a few sponsors, but I think it's much more efficient to talk with a sponsor and offer him 1-4 teams to sponsor in different parts of the world and let them decide. They can just wet their feet in ESPORTS or go all out with their logos plastered on podiums of every LAN event in NA or EU.

That's assuming the rumors are true.

Same problem I had before. If there actually is a "neutral" agency or company that is working on marketing teams the 322 potential is gonna be there. Whether it happens or not, the fact that it can be asked if X lost to Y because their agency wanted to increase Y's exposure to score a contract with a sponsor shouldn't be allowed to happen. Too many pieces moving through one area. I'd love it if they just kept the name secret and found a few sponsors like razor and hyperX but that is a lot of extra work.


Yup. Remember TI4? EG x Alliance was one of the last games played, and people were saying EG would throw so alliance had a chance to qualify to the main event.


If team ownership isn't secret, in most of these cases you can mitigate the issue by scheduling those matches first rather than what TI did (although they probably had maximizing viewers in mind). When it gets to bracket stages, there is only so much they can do to help each other so it doesn't matter any more. You still have the issue of them trying to avoid each other in early knockout rounds by potentially throwing a late round robin game, but there have always been situations where people are trying to dodge a particular opponent.

Edit: for clarity
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
October 07 2014 23:18 GMT
#118
I think its teamliquid, they knew it all along because nobody in the scene has a teamname with "team" in it except nazgul.
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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
October 08 2014 06:54 GMT
#119
I don't want Secrets sponsor to be EG. If it happens, they will control too many teams in the scene
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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44280 Posts
October 08 2014 10:44 GMT
#120
On October 08 2014 15:54 WindWolf wrote:
I don't want Secrets sponsor to be EG. If it happens, they will control too many teams in the scene

there can never be enough teams for Alex Garfield
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