Secret making it look too easy.
What happens when teams ban Wisp and actually impede Puppey's Enigma though?

Does anyone know if any players (including those from Secret) have said anything about their scrim records?

Pegas

Romania211 Posts

October 03 2014 17:20 GMT

#86

On October 04 2014 02:13 JD. wrote:
Secret making it look too easy.
What happens when teams ban Wisp and actually impede Puppey's Enigma though?

PPY plays quite the Chen or Furion I must say and BigDaddy plays whatever he desires, S4 can prety much play anything mid, KKY has been playing a different cary almost every game now, Fly I think he needs more off-lane heroes.

So my guess is they have plenty of tricks left.

caiovigg

Brazil1802 Posts

October 03 2014 17:28 GMT

#87

On October 04 2014 02:13 JD. wrote:
Secret making it look too easy.
What happens when teams ban Wisp and actually impede Puppey's Enigma though?

Does anyone know if any players (including those from Secret) have said anything about their scrim records?

Puppey will pick mirana and shot arrows in their faces

about their scrims, we only have EE saying:

What do you think about all the new western teams?

We already beat Secret Team in scrims. I actually think they suck but apparently they own everyone else. They do decently well with everyone else. Obviously they're not as good as people say they are just based on the star power. You'd think they would dominate everyone but none of them are used to their roles. Everyone switched roles except Puppey, like even Kuroky is half support half carry. They don't really understand their roles and I don't know how much time they'll need to adjust to that. Hopefully for them they don't lose too much. If you lose too much, even though you need time to adjust, you can't because you're already too negative.

But they got REKT by TS like one week after, so I guess EE is just talking shit...

link to the interview: http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-general/466445-c9eternalenvy-interview-at-wec-i-really-dont-like-how-xiao8-retired

clusen

Germany8702 Posts

October 03 2014 17:45 GMT

#88

Well, EE doesn't say when they scrimmed and considering the first showing of TS it's not unlikely that they had similar performances in scrims around that time.

zdfgucker

China594 Posts

October 03 2014 17:47 GMT

#89

On October 03 2014 13:40 blobrus wrote:

Show nested quote +

Agree with this. Secret looks great but to claim to be the best team in the west you've gotta beat the team that's actually proven it.

Proven by winning TI3.. oh wait. EG is out there but certainly not the undisputed #1 like Alliance was, or Na'Vi or IG.

DDie

Brazil2369 Posts

October 03 2014 18:44 GMT

#90

Best western easily, it's stupid too think that a game/series against EG is required, consistency counts more.

FHDH

United States7023 Posts

October 03 2014 18:52 GMT

#91

On October 04 2014 03:44 DDie wrote:
Best western easily, it's stupid too think that a game/series against EG is required, consistency counts more.

Indeed. Head-to-heads might crown champions but to say they determine who is the best team is simply inaccurate.

goody153

44064 Posts

October 03 2014 18:58 GMT

#92

On October 04 2014 03:44 DDie wrote:
Best western easily, it's stupid too think that a game/series against EG is required, consistency counts more.

still needs a crown(championship) or a showmatch with EG .. i think

just like when EG used to have 90% winrate last year(pre-naga nerf era) .. they were still considered lower than alliance and na'vi since they can't secure a win in the most important games

Emnjay808

United States10654 Posts

October 04 2014 00:56 GMT

#93

Thanks for the vod link. I checked SL channel the other day. Guess it wasn't just up yet.

Kuro fountain diving them at the end was hilarious. I wish I could see Twitch chat during that time.

Dubag

Australia82 Posts

October 04 2014 06:24 GMT

#94

I wouldn't be surprised if the team sponsor was Redbull. They've had a long and dedicated involvement in extreme sports, they've dabbled in individual player sponsorship and their website has a section dedicated to eSports.

I actually like the Team Secret name though, but as long as they get a good sponsor and stick together for a long time I'm happy. (Kuro and Puppey are my 2 favourite players, and I'm a fan of BigDaddy after the TI4 EU Hub).

goody153

44064 Posts

October 05 2014 06:18 GMT

#95

Just incase nobody posted the youtube vod link of it.. i think i have never this before in a pro game

Diavlo

Belgium2915 Posts

October 05 2014 16:32 GMT

#96

On October 04 2014 03:44 DDie wrote:
Best western easily, it's stupid too think that a game/series against EG is required, consistency counts more.

TS doesn't really need to beat EG to get called the best team, but at least they have to accomplish more than them.
At the moment, EG has lost 2 series since TI4 and won the only big tournament they took a part in, TS won a bunch of games against tier 2 teams and some against tier 1 teams...

Looking at them they might be the best western team, but calling them that when they have played Na'Vi 3 games and C9/TT/Alliance/Empire once is kind of stupid.

Count9

China10928 Posts

October 05 2014 17:25 GMT

#97

TS has won a ton of Bo1s and as Jan/Feb 2014 Empire showed, winning a lot of group games doesn't always translate into long term success. That said, I see no reason why TS wouldn't continue to do well as long as they stay motivated. Unlike "old" Empire, their members all have tons of experience and all are known for playing better on lan than anywhere else.

I think their performance at both ESL + SL will show a lot (obviously) but I think it's also important not to over-hype/hate cause of 1 tourney. The sum performance at both lan tourneys will be a very good indicator of how far they will go. I do like that they're very focused on the tourneys they go to and not just entering everything they get their hands on. Tournament games and officials are no substitute for practice and scrims.

Vankuga

Panama2005 Posts

October 05 2014 23:44 GMT

#98

oh yes, showing dedication boys. Im curious to see if they announce their sponsor before ESL.