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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22212 Posts
On January 26 2015 20:32 goody153 wrote: puppey and idk who the short guy is .. probably kky since kky is the shortest of them iirc I meant which team, because he's out of Secret and I don't remember him joining a new team? | ||
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Aikin
Austria532 Posts
On January 26 2015 20:43 ahswtini wrote: I meant which team, because he's out of Secret and I don't remember him joining a new team? He joined c9. | ||
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goody153
44280 Posts
i thought charlie and rtz ended up with a bad relationship since they both unfollowed each other on twitter On January 26 2015 20:43 ahswtini wrote: I meant which team, because he's out of Secret and I don't remember him joining a new team? he is C9 new support duo with misery | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
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blobrus
4297 Posts
On January 26 2015 22:44 govie wrote: The hype is too high imo, chances are secret isnt that great as they were with bdn and misery. I mean talent wise this is probably the best they've ever been (Zai's only a little below bdn and I'd take rtz over misery any day in terms of talent). But yeah I kinda agree I don't think the chemistry will be there due to all the role swaps. In terms of raw player skill they match up evenly with pretty much any team though. | ||
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calmasfok
91 Posts
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zdarr
France375 Posts
On January 27 2015 00:54 calmasfok wrote: whats this "BDN IS GOD BDN IS LOVE BDN IS PERFECT" circle jerk? he made both good and bad plays on secret, definitely more of the former. he wasnt flawless and kuro on support will not be far worse for secret if at all. He was always consistent and made secret win a lot of games. Letting go someone that good, who really fits the team is always a downgrade. I just hope they make the better of it | ||
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goody153
44280 Posts
On January 27 2015 02:05 zdarr wrote: He was always consistent and made secret win a lot of games. Letting go someone that good, who really fits the team is always a downgrade. I just hope they make the better of it not saying BDN is bad but him getting kicked is probably not a downgrade like for example Arteezy leaving EG or s4 leaving alliance | ||
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govie
9334 Posts
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On January 27 2015 00:54 calmasfok wrote: whats this "BDN IS GOD BDN IS LOVE BDN IS PERFECT" circle jerk? he made both good and bad plays on secret, definitely more of the former. he wasnt flawless and kuro on support will not be far worse for secret if at all. Everyone "makes good and bad plays," what a pointless statement. He was a huge playmaker on the team, to the extent that teams would lay down at least 1-2 respect bans targeted at him specifically pretty much every game. And if they didn't they regretted it. I liked him as a player and respected his skill before he joined Secret but watching him play on that team...he was a monster. I can say without reservation that he was the reason they won a lot of games. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
its not hard to demand respect bans and/or win ur team games yeah his disruptor and wisp were also legit and took some bans but he wasn't unique in that either. This isn't me shitting on Notail but he's not cleary the best support in europe or anything imo. | ||
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Moustache Cash Stash
United States222 Posts
On January 27 2015 02:29 goody153 wrote: not saying BDN is bad but him getting kicked is probably not a downgrade like for example Arteezy leaving EG or s4 leaving alliance I'd say s4 leaving [A] is a downgrade, and the effects of Arteezy leaving EG has yet to be seen. We'll just have to wait to see how the role swaps effect Secret. The level of talent hasn't been downgraded, it's just been switched between roles. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On January 27 2015 02:47 Sn0_Man wrote: i mean when ur hero's unpatched ET its not hard to demand respect bans and/or win ur team games yeah his disruptor and wisp were also legit and took some bans but he wasn't unique in that either. This isn't me shitting on Notail but he's not cleary the best support in europe or anything imo. Opponents spent 3x as many bans against his Io as his ET. And if you banned both he would fuck you up with ES. On January 27 2015 02:49 Moustache Cash Stash wrote: I'd say s4 leaving [A] is a downgrade, and the effects of Arteezy leaving EG has yet to be seen. We'll just have to wait to see how the role swaps effect Secret. The level of talent hasn't been downgraded, it's just been switched between roles. There is no way Arteezy leaving EG isn't a downgrade at the mid position. I don't ride his nuts like a lot of his fans but he is still one of the best mids in the world and has accumulated a lot of experience. They're replacing him with a player who is very promising and I will pull for but is inexperienced and still in school. Could be the best in the world some day maybe, who knows, but right now he is not as good as Artour. | ||
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calmasfok
91 Posts
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On January 27 2015 03:00 calmasfok wrote: anybody remember that one itme BDN tried to solokill Fys rubick with his Witch doctor and just got his ult stolen and rekt during lift with rubick still at above half hp? ERMAGERD BDN BEST SUIPPART EVRRRZZ All of the best players never make bad plays, that's what the internet told me. | ||
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goody153
44280 Posts
i agree with Sno_Man here BDN is good but definitely isn't the best support in europe. Also s4 autowins games for Secret like he did with alliance a lot of times. You can see most of that when he plays brew. I do agree notail is fucking perfect mate. (ok my pun is lame) | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
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drusalnik
Bulgaria133 Posts
Hes style suited Secret very good he is probably top3 on support role in the western scene. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10665 Posts
Technically speaking, RTZ + Zai are amazing players as replacement, but the trade off for BDN's unique role is breaking even at best. | ||
Ver
United States2186 Posts
Really hard to say whether new secret will do better or worse than last but I'm excited to see how puppey drafts this. | ||
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