Team Secret Discussion - Page 23

On January 27 2015 17:38 Ver wrote:
Pretty interesting how a guy who dies an absurd 5 1/2 times a game versus mostly weak competition and has tons of games where he makes little impact can get such a cult following for making some big plays every so often. Guess stability is not a valued aspect of supporting for fans.

Really hard to say whether new secret will do better or worse than last but I'm excited to see how puppey drafts this.

On January 27 2015 03:10 goody153 wrote:
Why have i not seen this praises of BDN during his time before Secret ? iirc the only time he was praised was because of his wisp before

i agree with Sno_Man here BDN is good but definitely isn't the best support in europe. Also s4 autowins games for Secret like he did with alliance a lot of times. You can see most of that when he plays brew.

I do agree notail is fucking perfect mate. (ok my pun is lame)

On January 27 2015 23:54 lolnoty wrote:


What the hell? Fnatic was KNOWN for living on the backs of their supports for almost a fucking year man. Trixxi fed every game, hanni had (has?) a really long questionable mid streak, and Era went from having an I-Win rotation of carry options (pre-nerf wisp/ck and Naix) to being ineffectual.

RE: the entire notail discussion - It was questionable to replace him because of Kuroky, but I know that's an unpopular opinion. Kuroky is a bit like the beatles - he was good, and has a history that impacted a lot, but he was GOOD not THE BEST EVER in dota1, and that overhype followed him to dota2. The reason I say that is because I don't think he was a BAD support in Navi, but he was just so-so. He needed 1-2 heroes to be considered a threat (people respect banned 1 support for him, 2-3 for notail).

If TS wanted 100% their best odds for TI5, which they claim is the case on why they kicked people, it should have been Kky out, RTZ [insert offlaner] in, and keeping notail as the hard 5.

On January 27 2015 23:54 lolnoty wrote:


What the hell? Fnatic was KNOWN for living on the backs of their supports for almost a fucking year man. Trixxi fed every game, hanni had (has?) a really long questionable mid streak, and Era went from having an I-Win rotation of carry options (pre-nerf wisp/ck and Naix) to being ineffectual.

RE: the entire notail discussion - It was questionable to replace him because of Kuroky, but I know that's an unpopular opinion. Kuroky is a bit like the beatles - he was good, and has a history that impacted a lot, but he was GOOD not THE BEST EVER in dota1, and that overhype followed him to dota2. The reason I say that is because I don't think he was a BAD support in Navi, but he was just so-so. He needed 1-2 heroes to be considered a threat (people respect banned 1 support for him, 2-3 for notail).

If TS wanted 100% their best odds for TI5, which they claim is the case on why they kicked people, it should have been Kky out, RTZ [insert offlaner] in, and keeping notail as the hard 5.

On January 27 2015 17:38 Ver wrote:
Pretty interesting how a guy who dies an absurd 5 1/2 times a game versus mostly weak competition and has tons of games where he makes little impact can get such a cult following for making some big plays every so often. Guess stability is not a valued aspect of supporting for fans.

Really hard to say whether new secret will do better or worse than last but I'm excited to see how puppey drafts this.

On January 28 2015 10:57 haxhax wrote:


Consistency? His death count is comparable to any of the supports on Newbee, VG & LGD.

And what of the fact that he has the highest amount of assists per game of any player in the world as of 8.82, that's including people playing carries, mids and offlanes. Was that worth no mention?