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Kelefei2016
Profile Joined August 2016
Papua New Guinea504 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-31 17:19:17
July 31 2017 17:16 GMT
#4261
On July 31 2017 22:43 PandaRed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2017 22:06 Kelefei2016 wrote:
Ti7 group stage matches schedule is out, if Secret wanna a comfortable upper bracket, they need to get 6-2 at least, cos the early matches are relatively weak team eg Empire, Infamous, TNC, Fnatic & iGV. Especially vs Empire and infamous, 4-0 is very crucial


Upper bracket is totally doable. They can even manage to take some games vs LGD/Liquid/EG (which seems favorites of group A).

If only manage to get 1-1 with Empire and Infamous, the risk of going lower bracket is high. Example:
Secret 1:1 Empire
Secret 1:1 EG
Secret 1:1 Infamous
Secret 1:1 TNC
TNC 0:2 EG
TNC 2:0 Empire
TNC 2:0 Infamous

Score is favourited to TNC
Risk of lower bracket is high for secret.
PandaRed
Profile Joined June 2016
France58 Posts
August 03 2017 11:45 GMT
#4262
On August 01 2017 02:16 Kelefei2016 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2017 22:43 PandaRed wrote:
On July 31 2017 22:06 Kelefei2016 wrote:
Ti7 group stage matches schedule is out, if Secret wanna a comfortable upper bracket, they need to get 6-2 at least, cos the early matches are relatively weak team eg Empire, Infamous, TNC, Fnatic & iGV. Especially vs Empire and infamous, 4-0 is very crucial


Upper bracket is totally doable. They can even manage to take some games vs LGD/Liquid/EG (which seems favorites of group A).

If only manage to get 1-1 with Empire and Infamous, the risk of going lower bracket is high. Example:
Secret 1:1 Empire
Secret 1:1 EG
Secret 1:1 Infamous
Secret 1:1 TNC
TNC 0:2 EG
TNC 2:0 Empire
TNC 2:0 Infamous

Score is favourited to TNC
Risk of lower bracket is high for secret.


After day one, upper seems hard to reach.
They need to win match EG/Liquid/TNC (atleast 2 of them) ...
"Everyone must forget the words CARRY/SUPPORT/GANKER, this is all rubbish. If you want to be useful, to win the game, you must play on all heroes, instead of crying like a baby when you have to play carry" - Puppey
Kelefei2016
Profile Joined August 2016
Papua New Guinea504 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-07 13:09:16
August 07 2017 13:09 GMT
#4263
On August 03 2017 20:45 PandaRed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2017 02:16 Kelefei2016 wrote:
On July 31 2017 22:43 PandaRed wrote:
On July 31 2017 22:06 Kelefei2016 wrote:
Ti7 group stage matches schedule is out, if Secret wanna a comfortable upper bracket, they need to get 6-2 at least, cos the early matches are relatively weak team eg Empire, Infamous, TNC, Fnatic & iGV. Especially vs Empire and infamous, 4-0 is very crucial


Upper bracket is totally doable. They can even manage to take some games vs LGD/Liquid/EG (which seems favorites of group A).

If only manage to get 1-1 with Empire and Infamous, the risk of going lower bracket is high. Example:
Secret 1:1 Empire
Secret 1:1 EG
Secret 1:1 Infamous
Secret 1:1 TNC
TNC 0:2 EG
TNC 2:0 Empire
TNC 2:0 Infamous

Score is favourited to TNC
Risk of lower bracket is high for secret.


After day one, upper seems hard to reach.
They need to win match EG/Liquid/TNC (atleast 2 of them) ...


Exactly what i have said. In round robin, we need to win 2-0 against weaker team and we cannot afford a draw 1-1, thats reason go to lower bracket.
PandaRed
Profile Joined June 2016
France58 Posts
August 09 2017 08:33 GMT
#4264
Hard loss for them (even if they weren't favorite)
Hope they stick together (atleast, Midone seems he's gonna stay)
"Everyone must forget the words CARRY/SUPPORT/GANKER, this is all rubbish. If you want to be useful, to win the game, you must play on all heroes, instead of crying like a baby when you have to play carry" - Puppey
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
August 09 2017 09:33 GMT
#4265
Puppey made big mistakes G2, G3 with his last picks..
PL I'm alch lane is just weak, and he already had CK who could swarm him without dealing with nightmare acid spray in lane...

And then Luna vs Legion/Troll/Necromancer just had to run from fights with full HP bkb on and mid ultimate

Think if he picked something like Razor both games it'd be way easier to retain the awesome laning stage they had over Liquid , then face empire and the Whole TI be different.


So yeah at least Puppey/Yapzor/Midone can stick together and do great

Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-08-09 09:35:50
August 09 2017 09:35 GMT
#4266
Even though Yapzor more or less already reached the GH/Jerax/Lil big impact Jesus support level and should get loads of offers
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
uthgard
Profile Joined January 2015
2098 Posts
August 09 2017 12:12 GMT
#4267
honestly for once I doubt they'll change roster, they have big potential and there doesn't seem to be obvious personality problem/clash

series against liquid was close and it was the little thing that made the difference
Darksteel
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland319 Posts
August 09 2017 16:55 GMT
#4268
Secret seemed to play really well at times. I hope they stay together for the most part. The 2018 season will be so action packed so they will have a lot of opportunities to polish their play.
Kelefei2016
Profile Joined August 2016
Papua New Guinea504 Posts
August 09 2017 23:46 GMT
#4269
Khezu has to be out if Secret gonna achieve more than 9th-12th. Khezu is good but we need world class offlaner. Kheze played more like a supp
DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
August 10 2017 01:06 GMT
#4270
Khezu is mediocre and mp is underwhelming.
skiekai
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy51 Posts
August 14 2017 10:59 GMT
#4271
On August 10 2017 10:06 DucK- wrote:
Khezu is mediocre and mp is underwhelming.


http://teamsecret.gg/team-secret-dota2-post-ti7/

Team secret has kicked both.
I'm sad for Khezu, he has improved a lot over the year and I belive he has more space to grow.
I like him, but for sure he is not at the moment one of the best in the word.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sq420i

About MP he was solid, but I belive not enough to help Team Secret go back to be dominant in the scene.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
August 14 2017 11:42 GMT
#4272
If they managed to get Resolution they'd have a really solid team. Not sure who exactly they could get for offlane
uwahwah89
Profile Joined May 2015
Indonesia158 Posts
August 14 2017 12:25 GMT
#4273
Khezzu is a nice guy. The same with Bulba, both are nicest and most sincere personality in the scene. But in the end, DOTA is a bussiness. Reality hit me hard in the face this time
Go go liquid wiki
Kelefei2016
Profile Joined August 2016
Papua New Guinea504 Posts
August 21 2017 00:41 GMT
#4274
Yes, kicked both Khezu & MP. They are good but they are not good enough to bring the team to top ranked tournament.
midou
Profile Joined April 2008
Bulgaria1168 Posts
August 21 2017 07:41 GMT
#4275
I agree with the Khezu/MP assessment in this thread....... but Ace/Fata???
Kelefei2016
Profile Joined August 2016
Papua New Guinea504 Posts
August 22 2017 00:40 GMT
#4276
On August 21 2017 16:41 midou wrote:
I agree with the Khezu/MP assessment in this thread....... but Ace/Fata???


Tbh, if we wanna achieve great in tournament,we need players with at least 9/10. Imo, Midone, Yapzor are 9/10, Puppey 8.5/10, MP 7/10 and Khezu 6.5/10. Same goes to Fata & ace, they are only 7/10. I think Shadow (9/10) and zai (9.5/10) are better option.
shouldbeworking
Profile Joined October 2014
946 Posts
August 22 2017 01:18 GMT
#4277
Sucks that Ice3 went to mineski. Secret.Iceiceice and Secret.Shadow would be disgusting.
PandaRed
Profile Joined June 2016
France58 Posts
September 05 2017 14:40 GMT
#4278
ACE and Fata confirmed on Secret twitter
...

Also, there is this =>

Yapzor reaction is priceless
"Everyone must forget the words CARRY/SUPPORT/GANKER, this is all rubbish. If you want to be useful, to win the game, you must play on all heroes, instead of crying like a baby when you have to play carry" - Puppey
skiekai
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy51 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-05 15:20:51
September 05 2017 15:20 GMT
#4279
I've hoped for Zai offlaner till the end.

I've mixed feeling about this new roster.
The new players could be an upgrade but I'm not sure they are enough to win major tournaments.

emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
September 05 2017 15:31 GMT
#4280
On September 05 2017 23:40 PandaRed wrote:
ACE and Fata confirmed on Secret twitter
...

Also, there is this => https://clips.twitch.tv/BlatantMildMagpieGrammarKing
Yapzor reaction is priceless


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