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the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
August 15 2016 11:35 GMT
#3981
On August 15 2016 06:36 spacecreated wrote:
I saw !attacker naming his stream "secret.!attacker" can anyone comfirm anything? I don't he joined but its not impossible.


Would be cool, the guy is pretty good, but probably just him joking around.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
August 15 2016 15:07 GMT
#3982
On August 15 2016 05:16 wims80 wrote:
Yeah, sorry. It was only a 9 game losing streak

aren't you supposed to be trolling the liquid thread
rip
wims80
Profile Joined February 2014
1892 Posts
August 15 2016 15:14 GMT
#3983
9 or 15 games in a row, does it really matter? It sucks either way, it's not good enough for a tier 1 team
Why are my allies so weak and pathetic?
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
August 15 2016 15:46 GMT
#3984
I mean, its pretty rich coming from a guy with an Alliance flair, who basically GGAed their way to the winner's bracket, and proceeded to lose all matches from there. Loda must be thanking Alex Garfield for the extra $$ secured in this manner.

User was temp banned for this post.
Envy fan since NTH.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
August 15 2016 16:54 GMT
#3985
I doubt Alliance and EG colluded to ensure Alliance got to the UB. I've never seen any evidence they even like each other, let alone work together because their organisations are linked.

Far more likely is just that EG weren't focusing on an unimportant game.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
August 15 2016 17:47 GMT
#3986
my ideal scenario is bulba out miracle in EE to offlane hehe
Drearcerberus
Profile Joined August 2014
United States21 Posts
August 15 2016 19:33 GMT
#3987
my ideal scenario is bulba out miracle in EE to offlane hehe


And that would probably make them even worse. EE is much better on farm oriented heroes and generally you get tempo controllers out of your offlane.
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
August 15 2016 20:36 GMT
#3988
On August 16 2016 04:33 Drearcerberus wrote:
Show nested quote +
my ideal scenario is bulba out miracle in EE to offlane hehe


And that would probably make them even worse. EE is much better on farm oriented heroes and generally you get tempo controllers out of your offlane.


EE probably hasn't practiced many tempo heroes either though. It's kind of like saying EE was a better support than carry back before Kaipi. It's true but it misses the point.

What I do know is that he's started in the offlane many times during the last year so he knows how to lane and if he's pushed into the jungle, it's EE if nothing else the dude knows how to jungle farm.

This has nothing to do with how likely it is or even expected results however, like I said it's just my ideal scenario.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
August 16 2016 12:48 GMT
#3989
Envy deleted Secret banner on twitter and removed team secret carry player in description
The Real Power~
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
August 16 2016 13:04 GMT
#3990
drEEam is dEEad
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 13:07:30
August 16 2016 13:07 GMT
#3991
He also followed SVG and Ritsu, so looks like he might be looking to make his own team with relative unknowns/newcomers. He also updated his bio to mid player. Rumors on reddit are that the team's lineup is

1 - Ritsu
2 - EE
3 - MSS
4 - SVG
5 - 1437
Envy fan since NTH.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
August 16 2016 13:09 GMT
#3992
I would be glad to see EE build his own team again but hoped Aui would be on it. I guess we'll see soon enough
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
August 16 2016 15:43 GMT
#3993
On August 16 2016 21:48 Zea! wrote:
Envy deleted Secret banner on twitter and removed team secret carry player in description

Secret confirmed saved.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
August 16 2016 16:49 GMT
#3994
On August 17 2016 00:43 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2016 21:48 Zea! wrote:
Envy deleted Secret banner on twitter and removed team secret carry player in description

Secret confirmed saved.


Hey man, Secret atleast won a Valve event and placed second in another with Envy as carry . Thats much more than I can say for any team with Bulba in it xD.
Envy fan since NTH.
Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
August 16 2016 16:58 GMT
#3995
On August 17 2016 01:49 Piledriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 00:43 Shaella wrote:
On August 16 2016 21:48 Zea! wrote:
Envy deleted Secret banner on twitter and removed team secret carry player in description

Secret confirmed saved.


Hey man, Secret atleast won a Valve event and placed second in another with Envy as carry . Thats much more than I can say for any team with Bulba in it xD.

Right in the feelings!

Isn't 1437 a part of Secret? He will leave his post to give it a try again? Nice
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14827 Posts
August 16 2016 17:07 GMT
#3996
On August 17 2016 01:49 Piledriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 00:43 Shaella wrote:
On August 16 2016 21:48 Zea! wrote:
Envy deleted Secret banner on twitter and removed team secret carry player in description

Secret confirmed saved.


Hey man, Secret atleast won a Valve event and placed second in another with Envy as carry . Thats much more than I can say for any team with Bulba in it xD.

I'm convinced that EE as mid is the most cancerous idea.
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-16 17:12:36
August 16 2016 17:10 GMT
#3997
On August 17 2016 02:07 Shaella wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 01:49 Piledriver wrote:
On August 17 2016 00:43 Shaella wrote:
On August 16 2016 21:48 Zea! wrote:
Envy deleted Secret banner on twitter and removed team secret carry player in description

Secret confirmed saved.


Hey man, Secret atleast won a Valve event and placed second in another with Envy as carry . Thats much more than I can say for any team with Bulba in it xD.

I'm convinced that EE as mid is the most cancerous idea.


My prediction is that he is going to end up as usual, making a top 5 team, thats decent for the first half of the year - not winning stuff, but some top 3 finishes, and then promptly implode during the months leading up to TI. Its a mentality issue, not necessarily a skill issue. Literally every team he has been in, has followed this cycle - C9 @ TI 4 was the only exception, where they ended up finishing 5/6 after imploding in a spectacular fashion after the level 1 rosh.
Envy fan since NTH.
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
August 16 2016 17:27 GMT
#3998
That's a pretty weird narrative given his performance at Frankfurt and Shanghai, which are TIs in all but name. Same competition and everything.

Im also rolling my eyes at people who don't know how to use the word cancerous.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
August 16 2016 20:26 GMT
#3999
On August 17 2016 02:10 Piledriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2016 02:07 Shaella wrote:
On August 17 2016 01:49 Piledriver wrote:
On August 17 2016 00:43 Shaella wrote:
On August 16 2016 21:48 Zea! wrote:
Envy deleted Secret banner on twitter and removed team secret carry player in description

Secret confirmed saved.


Hey man, Secret atleast won a Valve event and placed second in another with Envy as carry . Thats much more than I can say for any team with Bulba in it xD.

I'm convinced that EE as mid is the most cancerous idea.


My prediction is that he is going to end up as usual, making a top 5 team, thats decent for the first half of the year - not winning stuff, but some top 3 finishes, and then promptly implode during the months leading up to TI. Its a mentality issue, not necessarily a skill issue. Literally every team he has been in, has followed this cycle - C9 @ TI 4 was the only exception, where they ended up finishing 5/6 after imploding in a spectacular fashion after the level 1 rosh.

How do you mean "every team"? Nothing like that happened with NTH, nothing like that happened with Kaipi, nothing like that happened with TI4 C9. TI5 C9, yeah, but then that's not what happened with Secret either.

So...?
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
pyrocumulus
Profile Joined February 2015
United States65 Posts
August 16 2016 21:35 GMT
#4000
I imagine Team Secret's failures are due more to mentality than anything. I don't think it's a single person, either. Obviously, we can't really tell what's going on behind the curtain, but their mistakes are pretty telling in my opinion. I don't really think the entire team is on the same wavelength. It also appears that not all players are practicing as much as they ought to (once again, in my opinion). In-game communication feels off, too.
Even if I'm completely wrong, I hope they all can work on whatever is wrong and start rolling in victories. A lot of my favorite pros are on Secret.
Mitochondria is the Powerhouse of the Cell.
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