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FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
December 30 2014 19:09 GMT
#321
I seriously doubt anyone wants Mason.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
lolnoty
Profile Joined December 2005
United States7166 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-30 19:13:41
December 30 2014 19:13 GMT
#322
On December 31 2014 04:09 FHDH wrote:
I seriously doubt anyone wants Mason.


I was saying going by Mason as the source of the rumors, not that anyone was picking him up.
"PPD is a very angry guy. He controls us." - Arteezy
Hai1Fyre
Profile Joined May 2014
South Africa270 Posts
December 30 2014 19:59 GMT
#323
They would be seriously stupid to lose notail... He is such a fundamental part of the way secret plays... I really hope this is nothing more than a retarded rumor
Birthdays are good for you. The more you have the longer you live!
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
December 30 2014 20:16 GMT
#324
On December 31 2014 04:59 Hai1Fyre wrote:
They would be seriously stupid to lose notail... He is such a fundamental part of the way secret plays... I really hope this is nothing more than a retarded rumor

Agree. As fantastic as Zai is, n0tail is the team's glue.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-30 23:09:03
December 30 2014 23:08 GMT
#325
On December 31 2014 04:09 FHDH wrote:
I seriously doubt anyone wants Mason.


He said he was one of the best EG players at ti in his "i got booted" speech, imo opinion that was a correct statement.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
wheyw
Profile Joined October 2014
United States6 Posts
December 30 2014 23:38 GMT
#326
I think mason was seriously overlooked because of his "negative" attitude but if you look at his gameplay, he rarely loses his lanes, he farms very efficiently, and he makes smart plays. He had one/two bad game and he gets crucified like he's the worst player on EG which isn't true. They all played very well at during TI4.
gl hf
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
December 30 2014 23:42 GMT
#327
He was fine, many EG fans flamed him. But he wasn't great, and his exit from EG should not have left any professional organization wanting to pick him up.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Xendarii
Profile Joined December 2014
327 Posts
December 31 2014 01:12 GMT
#328
Misery pretty much confirmed on his stream that he's out of Secret. He said that he'll be playing for a team in 2015, but it really didn't sound like it's Secret.
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
December 31 2014 05:21 GMT
#329
On December 31 2014 08:42 FHDH wrote:
He was fine, many EG fans flamed him. But he wasn't great, and his exit from EG should not have left any professional organization wanting to pick him up.


He didn't really do anything 'wrong' when he got booted though, the way they dumped him was kinda bullshit. I'd actually love to see more of the guy.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
December 31 2014 06:00 GMT
#330
I can't see N0tail leaving this team anytime soon
EZ4ENCE
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
December 31 2014 06:24 GMT
#331
On December 31 2014 14:21 Salazarz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 08:42 FHDH wrote:
He was fine, many EG fans flamed him. But he wasn't great, and his exit from EG should not have left any professional organization wanting to pick him up.


He didn't really do anything 'wrong' when he got booted though, the way they dumped him was kinda bullshit. I'd actually love to see more of the guy.

'Bullshit' that a replacement for an injured Fear gets booted for a healthy Fear?
Average means I'm better than half of you.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
December 31 2014 07:03 GMT
#332
Idk the booting of mason was kinda expected by everyone. Also ppd said it's not about mason being not good enough but rather nobody wanting to play with him. Pretty sure even if mason only had 3 heroes(weaver, storm and mirana) . He was consistent with them.
this is a quote
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
December 31 2014 22:46 GMT
#333
On December 31 2014 15:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 14:21 Salazarz wrote:
On December 31 2014 08:42 FHDH wrote:
He was fine, many EG fans flamed him. But he wasn't great, and his exit from EG should not have left any professional organization wanting to pick him up.


He didn't really do anything 'wrong' when he got booted though, the way they dumped him was kinda bullshit. I'd actually love to see more of the guy.

'Bullshit' that a replacement for an injured Fear gets booted for a healthy Fear?

This. His exit was so, so childish.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Salazarz
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Korea (South)2591 Posts
January 01 2015 02:12 GMT
#334
On December 31 2014 15:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 14:21 Salazarz wrote:
On December 31 2014 08:42 FHDH wrote:
He was fine, many EG fans flamed him. But he wasn't great, and his exit from EG should not have left any professional organization wanting to pick him up.


He didn't really do anything 'wrong' when he got booted though, the way they dumped him was kinda bullshit. I'd actually love to see more of the guy.

'Bullshit' that a replacement for an injured Fear gets booted for a healthy Fear?


Well, according to Mason himself at least he was more or less kept in the dark about the whole thing, wasn't he? Like, I got the impression they never made it clear he was going to be a temp thing or for how long, or something? I don't remember the details that well so might be wrong, but eh.

Besides it's not like he'd be the first or the last one in esports to be childishly angry about stuff like that :p
FHDH
Profile Joined July 2014
United States7023 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-01 02:25:56
January 01 2015 02:19 GMT
#335
On January 01 2015 11:12 Salazarz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2014 15:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On December 31 2014 14:21 Salazarz wrote:
On December 31 2014 08:42 FHDH wrote:
He was fine, many EG fans flamed him. But he wasn't great, and his exit from EG should not have left any professional organization wanting to pick him up.


He didn't really do anything 'wrong' when he got booted though, the way they dumped him was kinda bullshit. I'd actually love to see more of the guy.

'Bullshit' that a replacement for an injured Fear gets booted for a healthy Fear?


Well, according to Mason himself at least he was more or less kept in the dark about the whole thing, wasn't he? Like, I got the impression they never made it clear he was going to be a temp thing or for how long, or something? I don't remember the details that well so might be wrong, but eh.

Besides it's not like he'd be the first or the last one in esports to be childishly angry about stuff like that :p

I guess everyone knew that he was a temporary replacement for an iconic player except him? EG did keep their options open but the bar was pretty high to replace Fear (assuming fear got better, which he did).

Fact is, there is a reason people discuss what is and isn't professional behavior. The correct thing to do in this situation was to say, publicly, "well I enjoyed my time, we won some tournaments and I made some great money playing the game I love. I wish I could have stayed on the team but it was not to be."

That's pretty much the opposite of what he said. And you know what? He does have a right to say whatever about the situation he feels is honest. He does not have a right to expect that other organizations will look upon the way he left and think "there is a person I want in my organization." Instead of what might have been rumors of his attitude within the team (and the well-known public persona) he made it plainly clear he was a caustic individual.

We talk a lot about chemistry for a reason. It matters. You have a five-player roster with no bench. Toxic attitudes, as put on display by Mason when he left, are bad for teams.

[e] Oh and just to state the obvious: keeping Mason would have been de-facto kicking Fear. Kicking him because he had to sit out for a while to deal with a chronic injury no doubt primarily caused by playing Dota. Mason thinks he's salty because he played with the team for half a year and only made a quarter million before they made room for Fear to come back to his old position? A grown-ass man would be thinking, what if the opposite happened.
После драки кулаками не машут (Don't shake your fist when the fight is over)
Pomza
Profile Joined October 2014
45 Posts
January 04 2015 02:17 GMT
#336
I think that we all need to thank BDN for his effort and how much fun he made Team Secret to watch. While I am excited for the next chapter of Team Secret I think his role can never be understated for this team.

Hope he finds a new team soon and can return to impressing all of us soon with his 'so smart' play.
Nikto
Profile Joined May 2014
Slovakia410 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-04 14:47:33
January 04 2015 14:45 GMT
#337
On January 04 2015 11:17 Pomza wrote:
I think that we all need to thank BDN for his effort and how much fun he made Team Secret to watch. While I am excited for the next chapter of Team Secret I think his role can never be understated for this team.

Hope he finds a new team soon and can return to impressing all of us soon with his 'so smart' play.


of course this, but based on some replies on reddit (namely EE to a speculation why Arteezy left EG) I'm guessing this came as a surprise to Secret and he himself at the end decided to leave... ofc until something official comes out (freaking how long does it take you guys [SECRET] to post something)
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34172 Posts
January 04 2015 16:13 GMT
#338
On January 01 2015 11:19 FHDH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 01 2015 11:12 Salazarz wrote:
On December 31 2014 15:24 WolfintheSheep wrote:
On December 31 2014 14:21 Salazarz wrote:
On December 31 2014 08:42 FHDH wrote:
He was fine, many EG fans flamed him. But he wasn't great, and his exit from EG should not have left any professional organization wanting to pick him up.


He didn't really do anything 'wrong' when he got booted though, the way they dumped him was kinda bullshit. I'd actually love to see more of the guy.

'Bullshit' that a replacement for an injured Fear gets booted for a healthy Fear?


Well, according to Mason himself at least he was more or less kept in the dark about the whole thing, wasn't he? Like, I got the impression they never made it clear he was going to be a temp thing or for how long, or something? I don't remember the details that well so might be wrong, but eh.

Besides it's not like he'd be the first or the last one in esports to be childishly angry about stuff like that :p

I guess everyone knew that he was a temporary replacement for an iconic player except him? EG did keep their options open but the bar was pretty high to replace Fear (assuming fear got better, which he did).

Fact is, there is a reason people discuss what is and isn't professional behavior. The correct thing to do in this situation was to say, publicly, "well I enjoyed my time, we won some tournaments and I made some great money playing the game I love. I wish I could have stayed on the team but it was not to be."

That's pretty much the opposite of what he said. And you know what? He does have a right to say whatever about the situation he feels is honest. He does not have a right to expect that other organizations will look upon the way he left and think "there is a person I want in my organization." Instead of what might have been rumors of his attitude within the team (and the well-known public persona) he made it plainly clear he was a caustic individual.

We talk a lot about chemistry for a reason. It matters. You have a five-player roster with no bench. Toxic attitudes, as put on display by Mason when he left, are bad for teams.

[e] Oh and just to state the obvious: keeping Mason would have been de-facto kicking Fear. Kicking him because he had to sit out for a while to deal with a chronic injury no doubt primarily caused by playing Dota. Mason thinks he's salty because he played with the team for half a year and only made a quarter million before they made room for Fear to come back to his old position? A grown-ass man would be thinking, what if the opposite happened.


In some places firing someone because of illness/injury is ilegal, we all know Mason was going out when Fear recovered

Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
zdarr
Profile Joined September 2010
France375 Posts
January 05 2015 04:02 GMT
#339
On January 04 2015 11:17 Pomza wrote:
I think that we all need to thank BDN for his effort and how much fun he made Team Secret to watch. While I am excited for the next chapter of Team Secret I think his role can never be understated for this team.

Hope he finds a new team soon and can return to impressing all of us soon with his 'so smart' play.


I don't think anyone who likes secret would disagree with this. But on the other hand, beside fly he was the only player they could have changed... Can't wait to see what they got to offer during DAC
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
January 06 2015 13:00 GMT
#340
When is this teams new roster gonna make a debut ? i'm so curious how this team will do

C9 did better than i expected , EG did so-so but still strong
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