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4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 08:44:49
September 11 2017 08:39 GMT
#5241
I am a little surprised how positive people are about the situation in here ^^ I mean I was a big alliance fan for a long time, but I also like to live in the real world x)

My analysis of the situation is that no high caliber player wants to play with loda, for good reasons i would say. Limmp was the best chance alliance had, building a new team around him would have been the sensible thing to do... now I honestly have no idea how this team recovers. My guess is it will not.

I suppose it comes down to sponsorship money. Does alliance still have big sponsorship? I suppose if alliance could offer salaries to upcoming young talent that could work. Then Loda just need to move to a position where his impact is as small as possible x)

Anyway, I look forward to follow complexity this year.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
hunter_x
Profile Joined June 2014
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 09:48:08
September 11 2017 09:43 GMT
#5242
On September 11 2017 15:55 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 07:49 hunter_x wrote:
On September 11 2017 00:36 jack_knife wrote:
i was just kidding, dude, don't over react. xD
u are right, Alliance is not even tier2 without bulldog, and i really want him back.

As if bulldog would make them imediately better...the 4 Position and the captain is more important these days i feel.


You are so hung up on tiers and what not , i stopped watching Dota all together aside from the big events and even then only the later stages ,if bulldog is back i will probably watch online games vs unknown teams , you miss this point over and over again , an alliance team which are tier2 or 3 or whatever you want to rank them is making me watch Dota and ENJOY IT , while watching teams i don't care about play is NOT enjoyable , same as my favorite soccer team , there are better teams out there but i don't enjoy watching them nor do i care for what they do.
Do i want Alliance to win TI , of course i do , would i get upset if they lose ? sure ! but thats the fun , to care about the team , to be invested is 99% of the fun in sports.
but when all said and done i love watching my team play , win or lose.
give me back bulldog and akke and ill be an happy camper !!!!
Please hunter-x for once try to understand the mentality of the alliance fans here , you are missing the point ALL the time its like talking to a brick wall sometimes .

Why do you get so emotional? Jack_knife literally said without bulldog they would not even be Tier 2, so he thinks he would make the team better. I know of your emotional Connection with the TI3 team, and i respect that. i never said anything about it. Plz dont be so butthurt, just because a Post is coming from me. Im not a bad gut all the time...if all you want is a mediocre Tier 2 team thats a little weird, but alright with me. Because thats all you will get with these players. I also always loved liquid, even in the worst times, i know what being fan means.
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
September 11 2017 10:35 GMT
#5243
On September 11 2017 15:55 bluzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 07:49 hunter_x wrote:
On September 11 2017 00:36 jack_knife wrote:
i was just kidding, dude, don't over react. xD
u are right, Alliance is not even tier2 without bulldog, and i really want him back.

As if bulldog would make them imediately better...the 4 Position and the captain is more important these days i feel.


You are so hung up on tiers and what not , i stopped watching Dota all together aside from the big events and even then only the later stages ,if bulldog is back i will probably watch online games vs unknown teams , you miss this point over and over again , an alliance team which are tier2 or 3 or whatever you want to rank them is making me watch Dota and ENJOY IT , while watching teams i don't care about play is NOT enjoyable , same as my favorite soccer team , there are better teams out there but i don't enjoy watching them nor do i care for what they do.
Do i want Alliance to win TI , of course i do , would i get upset if they lose ? sure ! but thats the fun , to care about the team , to be invested is 99% of the fun in sports.
but when all said and done i love watching my team play , win or lose.
give me back bulldog and akke and ill be an happy camper !!!!
Please hunter-x for once try to understand the mentality of the alliance fans here , you are missing the point ALL the time its like talking to a brick wall sometimes .


It's called football!

I guess in the US of A, there might be some confusion with their egg-ball game, which is wrongly named.
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
September 11 2017 10:54 GMT
#5244
On September 11 2017 19:35 sCuMBaG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 15:55 bluzi wrote:
On September 11 2017 07:49 hunter_x wrote:
On September 11 2017 00:36 jack_knife wrote:
i was just kidding, dude, don't over react. xD
u are right, Alliance is not even tier2 without bulldog, and i really want him back.

As if bulldog would make them imediately better...the 4 Position and the captain is more important these days i feel.


You are so hung up on tiers and what not , i stopped watching Dota all together aside from the big events and even then only the later stages ,if bulldog is back i will probably watch online games vs unknown teams , you miss this point over and over again , an alliance team which are tier2 or 3 or whatever you want to rank them is making me watch Dota and ENJOY IT , while watching teams i don't care about play is NOT enjoyable , same as my favorite soccer team , there are better teams out there but i don't enjoy watching them nor do i care for what they do.
Do i want Alliance to win TI , of course i do , would i get upset if they lose ? sure ! but thats the fun , to care about the team , to be invested is 99% of the fun in sports.
but when all said and done i love watching my team play , win or lose.
give me back bulldog and akke and ill be an happy camper !!!!
Please hunter-x for once try to understand the mentality of the alliance fans here , you are missing the point ALL the time its like talking to a brick wall sometimes .


It's called football!

I guess in the US of A, there might be some confusion with their egg-ball game, which is wrongly named.

Its football no doubt but after living in California for 1 year and being looked like a crazy person talking about football and Liverpool i always say Soccer when talking to americans (of course) and in forums where its not clear who is reading on the other side!
bluzi
Profile Joined May 2011
4703 Posts
September 11 2017 10:58 GMT
#5245
On September 11 2017 18:43 hunter_x wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2017 15:55 bluzi wrote:
On September 11 2017 07:49 hunter_x wrote:
On September 11 2017 00:36 jack_knife wrote:
i was just kidding, dude, don't over react. xD
u are right, Alliance is not even tier2 without bulldog, and i really want him back.

As if bulldog would make them imediately better...the 4 Position and the captain is more important these days i feel.


You are so hung up on tiers and what not , i stopped watching Dota all together aside from the big events and even then only the later stages ,if bulldog is back i will probably watch online games vs unknown teams , you miss this point over and over again , an alliance team which are tier2 or 3 or whatever you want to rank them is making me watch Dota and ENJOY IT , while watching teams i don't care about play is NOT enjoyable , same as my favorite soccer team , there are better teams out there but i don't enjoy watching them nor do i care for what they do.
Do i want Alliance to win TI , of course i do , would i get upset if they lose ? sure ! but thats the fun , to care about the team , to be invested is 99% of the fun in sports.
but when all said and done i love watching my team play , win or lose.
give me back bulldog and akke and ill be an happy camper !!!!
Please hunter-x for once try to understand the mentality of the alliance fans here , you are missing the point ALL the time its like talking to a brick wall sometimes .

Why do you get so emotional? Jack_knife literally said without bulldog they would not even be Tier 2, so he thinks he would make the team better. I know of your emotional Connection with the TI3 team, and i respect that. i never said anything about it. Plz dont be so butthurt, just because a Post is coming from me. Im not a bad gut all the time...if all you want is a mediocre Tier 2 team thats a little weird, but alright with me. Because thats all you will get with these players. I also always loved liquid, even in the worst times, i know what being fan means.


Who is butthurt ? i am trying to convey a point and you are missing it for more then a year , and by the look of your response you STILL don't get it "if all you want is a mediocre Tier 2 team thats a little weird" ..........
smecz
Profile Joined May 2017
41 Posts
September 11 2017 15:24 GMT
#5246
I do agree and understand the point about not just following the team for their wins, even if A has been somewhat lack luster for quite some time, they always have the possibility to give you a great game even if they have been somewhat far apart. I support them in loss & win and don't belive all this negative "they can never be good again because they don't have player X or old TI3 lineup". A lot of ppl love to bash Loda, but he's hardly bad, he has just not practiced enough lately (Guess real life has been a factor) and therefore not stable, but saying he's bad is just stupid. There's been plenty of 100000K MMR players on other teams that have been shit, because guess what, Dota is about teamplay and not so much individual skill.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
September 11 2017 20:28 GMT
#5247
Bluzi's always the best, couldn't explain better !


On September 12 2017 00:24 smecz wrote:
I do agree and understand the point about not just following the team for their wins, even if A has been somewhat lack luster for quite some time, they always have the possibility to give you a great game even if they have been somewhat far apart. I support them in loss & win and don't belive all this negative "they can never be good again because they don't have player X or old TI3 lineup". A lot of ppl love to bash Loda, but he's hardly bad, he has just not practiced enough lately (Guess real life has been a factor) and therefore not stable, but saying he's bad is just stupid. There's been plenty of 100000K MMR players on other teams that have been shit, because guess what, Dota is about teamplay and not so much individual skill.


Where's you [A] flair smecz? :D
The Real Power~
chairs
Profile Joined June 2015
Singapore120 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-11 21:23:12
September 11 2017 21:23 GMT
#5248
Team Tuho:
Garter
Micke
Qojqva
Demon
Insania

Welp, guess no micke and insania in [A]
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
September 19 2017 21:27 GMT
#5249
Boys:

1. Loda
2. Five
3. Bulldong
4. Pablo
5. eskillz

playing Dreamhack open qualifiers... :D, dunno if fun stack or a prelude to new Alliance
The Real Power~
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
September 20 2017 00:09 GMT
#5250
you know bulldog and his random stacks though
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
smecz
Profile Joined May 2017
41 Posts
September 20 2017 10:27 GMT
#5251
4p5 (Five & eskillz) disbanded the day before, so dunno if they would have already talked them up for a new lineup so fast, but then again the swedish dota world isn't too huge >: )

Do I have the "flair" now?
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
September 20 2017 10:47 GMT
#5252
I think they'd have to pay Bulldog loads
OR
Let him stream Scrims (even minor pro matches? EZ to snipe though)
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
jack_knife
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany343 Posts
September 20 2017 18:29 GMT
#5253
On September 20 2017 19:47 LemOn wrote:
I think they'd have to pay Bulldog loads
OR
Let him stream Scrims (even minor pro matches? EZ to snipe though)

yeah, yeah, bulldog is not good anymore, bulldog is streamer, bla bla bla, then he went to NA play FPL get 100% winrate and rekt sumail, carried rtz.
jack_knife
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany343 Posts
September 20 2017 18:30 GMT
#5254

right after this retarded kid sumail trash talked bulldog, bulldog rekt him.

User was warned for this post
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
September 20 2017 23:28 GMT
#5255
On September 20 2017 19:27 smecz wrote:
4p5 (Five & eskillz) disbanded the day before, so dunno if they would have already talked them up for a new lineup so fast, but then again the swedish dota world isn't too huge >: )

Do I have the "flair" now?


ye, you got it :D.

We lost the open qualifiers
The Real Power~
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
September 21 2017 09:24 GMT
#5256
On September 21 2017 03:29 jack_knife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2017 19:47 LemOn wrote:
I think they'd have to pay Bulldog loads
OR
Let him stream Scrims (even minor pro matches? EZ to snipe though)

yeah, yeah, bulldog is not good anymore, bulldog is streamer, bla bla bla, then he went to NA play FPL get 100% winrate and rekt sumail, carried rtz.


Wth. All lemon said was that A prob need to pay Bulldog loads for him to go pro, or let him stream when they practice so he wont get an influx in cashflow. How the hell did u interpret that as a threat to bulldogs skills?

Jawdrop.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
September 21 2017 09:25 GMT
#5257
On September 21 2017 08:28 Zea! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2017 19:27 smecz wrote:
4p5 (Five & eskillz) disbanded the day before, so dunno if they would have already talked them up for a new lineup so fast, but then again the swedish dota world isn't too huge >: )

Do I have the "flair" now?


ye, you got it :D.

We lost the open qualifiers


Well.. Considering what's left to pickup i guess that team is the best possible. But until they anounce the complete roster im gonna refrain from calling them "we" But sure, Bulldog and Loda is still alliance so i guess u got a point.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
smecz
Profile Joined May 2017
41 Posts
September 21 2017 11:09 GMT
#5258
It was really fun to watch the qualifier, even if they lost, a bit like "behind the scenes" moment.

Bulldog felt surprisingly quite during the games thou, maybe just since offlane is by himself mostly in the beginning. He wrote on twitter that there would be many more qualifiers to come, a hint or just random fun?

LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-09-21 11:28:30
September 21 2017 11:25 GMT
#5259
On September 21 2017 03:29 jack_knife wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2017 19:47 LemOn wrote:
I think they'd have to pay Bulldog loads
OR
Let him stream Scrims (even minor pro matches? EZ to snipe though)

yeah, yeah, bulldog is not good anymore, bulldog is streamer, bla bla bla, then he went to NA play FPL get 100% winrate and rekt sumail, carried rtz.

You misunderstood
Bulldog is good
But his streaming is serious business, and when you stop you lose views (unless you're RTZ, someone TOP like that)
And he's n.1 Twitch streamer in Dota right now in an extremely top heavy environment
Alliance would have to either compensate him for it, or let him stream like he does FPL as they won't be expected to get massive prize money
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
the bear jew
Profile Joined August 2014
United States3674 Posts
September 21 2017 11:52 GMT
#5260
On September 21 2017 08:28 Zea! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2017 19:27 smecz wrote:
4p5 (Five & eskillz) disbanded the day before, so dunno if they would have already talked them up for a new lineup so fast, but then again the swedish dota world isn't too huge >: )

Do I have the "flair" now?


ye, you got it :D.

We lost the open qualifiers


Well considering most of the team hasnt played together, or haven't played together in a long time, loda and bulldog, they got pretty far. Wouldn't write it off yet.
DeMoN pulled off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
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