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GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
December 08 2015 14:45 GMT
#2161
On December 08 2015 23:43 WakaDoDo wrote:
Our memer finally hit 7k

It's about time!
Although, to be fair, hitting 7k while primarily playing offlane is quite tough.
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Habitus
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom120 Posts
December 08 2015 15:57 GMT
#2162
Considering how often people say about how you can't cheer for a team in esports cause they change their roster every 5 mins so you get attached to player rather than a team most often. Atleast with alliance you have a team to follow.

On December 08 2015 19:33 GinNtoniC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2015 14:59 tehh4ck3r wrote:
On December 04 2015 04:06 tehh4ck3r wrote:
alliance is an average-at-best team that had the optimal strategy figured out for patch 6.78 (and still almost lost TI)


bringing back their old lineup isn't going to bring back the insane strategical advantage they had over most teams at TI3

And this too.
I'm fairly certain though that they realize this as well. They don't seem to think of themselves as mechanically superior to other teams. Loda has on numerous occasions stated that one of the reasons they did so well in 2013 was that they were innovative and unafraid to try try different stuff - that kept them one step ahead of their opponents.

(Personally I think Loda is giving himself a little too much credit, they were not THAT innovative but whatever. I'll grant him that they were unafraid to try ballsy stuff from time to time, with everything from Blitz Push to Fake lvl 1 Roshan etc.)

What I'm mostly excited about though is:
1. Seeing if they can find their chemistry again (Akke+EGM really clicked in 2013 and EGM+Bulldog too, especially with map control plays).
2. The extended hero pool EGM brings: Rubick, Shadow Demon, Sand King, Support WR, Earthshaker, AA, Naga etc... Not to mention his beastly Wisp.
3. Dem feels. Let's be real here; there's a lot of nostalgia in this one.


Most of their innovation during that time period was how to get farmed support, and understanding that if you have 4 heroes farming as 3-5 of their heroes ganked 1 hero then you were gaining more than them in long run. All these things have changed or are just standard parts of the game now. Biggest problem I feel is alliance strength is generally skirmish type fights and late game decisions, but the games end faster in general, and 5v5 fights become more relevant so far, so unless next patch tones that down I'm hoping that alliance can just figure out 5v5 fights more
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
December 08 2015 16:00 GMT
#2163
How's s4s mmr now adays?
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
December 08 2015 16:31 GMT
#2164
On December 09 2015 01:00 lookfirewood wrote:
How's s4s mmr now adays?

he got 8k highest

of course he might not be 8k anymore it's difficult to maintain that
this is a quote
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
December 08 2015 18:15 GMT
#2165
On December 09 2015 01:31 goody153 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2015 01:00 lookfirewood wrote:
How's s4s mmr now adays?

he got 8k highest

of course he might not be 8k anymore it's difficult to maintain that


Is there some decay or something? Or how does it work? Just get knocked out, or get a "sleepy" status if you dont play?
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-08 18:21:31
December 08 2015 18:20 GMT
#2166
From the leaderboards page:
Who is eligible to appear on the leaderboard?
To qualify, a player must have all of the following:
At least 300 lifetime matchmade games played. (Unranked or ranked PvP matches only.)
At least 100 lifetime solo ranked games
At least 15 solo ranked games in the last 21 days in the same division
Official player info on file


So basically, unless you play a decent amount of solo ranked games, you fall off the leaderboards even if your MMR doesn't go down. There is no MMR decay.

So we don't know his mmr, because he isn't on the leaderboards anymore, because he hasn't played enough solo queue recently.
LiquidDota StaffSCIENTISTS BAFFLED | 3275929302
lookfirewood
Profile Joined May 2011
1212 Posts
December 08 2015 18:28 GMT
#2167
On December 09 2015 03:20 Sn0_Man wrote:
From the leaderboards page:
Show nested quote +
Who is eligible to appear on the leaderboard?
To qualify, a player must have all of the following:
At least 300 lifetime matchmade games played. (Unranked or ranked PvP matches only.)
At least 100 lifetime solo ranked games
At least 15 solo ranked games in the last 21 days in the same division
Official player info on file


So basically, unless you play a decent amount of solo ranked games, you fall off the leaderboards even if your MMR doesn't go down. There is no MMR decay.

So we don't know his mmr, because he isn't on the leaderboards anymore, because he hasn't played enough solo queue recently.


Right. So if he starts to play, and reaches 15 solo games within the last few days, he'll be back up (with the current loss/win ration calculated into the mmr i suppose)? Seems good enough. A players should do what BD does and s4 did, just for keeping the basic routines sharp.
R.I.P STX 03.08.2013 never forget.
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
December 08 2015 21:05 GMT
#2168
Dong reached 7k today! GJ Henrik <3
The Real Power~
Hai1Fyre
Profile Joined May 2014
South Africa270 Posts
December 09 2015 04:33 GMT
#2169
When is their next official game?
Birthdays are good for you. The more you have the longer you live!
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-09 08:12:54
December 09 2015 08:12 GMT
#2170
Should be the tournament in China, right? If so, it's sometime next week I think (sometime before christmas)
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
WakaDoDo
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden1183 Posts
December 09 2015 10:33 GMT
#2171
WCA is the 17th to the 21st
GinNtoniC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Sweden2945 Posts
December 09 2015 23:07 GMT
#2172
On December 09 2015 19:33 WakaDoDo wrote:
WCA is the 17th to the 21st

Marking that in my calendar. Excited!
Huge fan of JulyZerg, HonestTea and that guy Kim Taek Yong.
Meiffeltower
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden674 Posts
December 16 2015 12:49 GMT
#2173
soon WCA.. is this tournament played with the new patch btw? or is the patch just live in the test client..?
LEEEEE YOOOUUUUUNG HOOOOOO
Tesgah
Profile Joined May 2015
Norway71 Posts
December 16 2015 13:00 GMT
#2174
Hoping that the patch goes live before WCA! If not, then the patch will drop during the tournament itself.
WakaDoDo
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden1183 Posts
December 16 2015 15:38 GMT
#2175
On December 16 2015 22:00 Tesgah wrote:
Hoping that the patch goes live before WCA! If not, then the patch will drop during the tournament itself.

Then they better get LD in every game before the patch.
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
December 16 2015 22:51 GMT
#2176
Well patch is up. I am ready for the chaos xD
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
Tesgah
Profile Joined May 2015
Norway71 Posts
December 17 2015 00:35 GMT
#2177
EXCITING! Do we get to see S4 Puck? Maybe S4 bat with Aether Lens and 320 range on lasso? Has Akke kept his Chen fresh enough to play the most buffed hero of the patch? Can we herald the return of Nature's Donger?

Hype. Alarm set to the first match. Rip eu-morning.
Hai1Fyre
Profile Joined May 2014
South Africa270 Posts
December 17 2015 05:46 GMT
#2178
I only saw the last 10min, but I was very impressed with that win! Game 1 of WCA vs MVP.P is in the bag!
Birthdays are good for you. The more you have the longer you live!
YoDaddy
Profile Joined November 2015
Vietnam7 Posts
December 17 2015 05:50 GMT
#2179
First win of many! Though the real test has yet to come, a nice start nonetheless.
Build God and we'll talk!
HeYmaney
Profile Joined August 2015
Switzerland193 Posts
December 17 2015 07:12 GMT
#2180
DAT GAME !!!
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