EPTCloud9 Discussion - Page 25
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
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Giga
United Kingdom114 Posts
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sfasdfasdf
Canada176 Posts
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spudde123
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cuckoo
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On December 07 2014 08:18 spudde123 wrote: I feel that win over EG may be huge for c9 mentally. They were looking like they would take it, then they dropped 2 games. Then they were in an extremely strong position in the last game, almost threw it away, and still managed to keep it together for the final play and fight to take the series. It was like the classic c9 moment but they still managed to hold it back and prevail, wp. it can work both ways really maybe they'll get too confident and lose to secret by underestimating them | ||
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spudde123
4814 Posts
On December 07 2014 08:33 cuckoo wrote: it can work both ways really maybe they'll get too confident and lose to secret by underestimating them They may lose sure, but I highly doubt it will be due to underestimating anyone. I meant it more in the sense that if you lose over and over in the final rounds, it may start to creep up in your mind in game 5 when you are there again. Now they managed to win and it probably makes it easier to keep it together and play well next time as well. | ||
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Churrass
573 Posts
On December 07 2014 08:33 cuckoo wrote: it can work both ways really maybe they'll get too confident and lose to secret by underestimating them but they aint gonna play secret | ||
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Sabu113
United States11076 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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goody153
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On December 07 2014 10:22 Sabu113 wrote: That game was every reason to watch c9. Always crazy. Always a lot of ups and downs no matter what. there are so many crazy entertaining games that feature C9 and also alliance historically | ||
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PhoenixVoid
Canada32746 Posts
A man can dream at least right. | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
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spudde123
4814 Posts
On December 08 2014 13:30 DucK- wrote: C9 was outclassed today. Even game 3 they should have loss, and didn't do anything worthy that game to win. Indeed, it's hard to say what part of it exactly was c9 playing under their potential and what was VG playing really well, but if you are under such pressure from 10mins onwards every game any small individual mistake you make will show. None of the games really got to a point where c9 would have done well early, making it difficult for VG to get deep wards. Now everything c9 tried was just too easy to anticipate when VG got so much early information through either Brood/Axe camping c9 forest or their deep warding that c9 wasn't prepared for. | ||
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Piledriver
United States1697 Posts
Fata was just useless this series though, easily his weakest performance on C9 so far. He overcommited way too much vs Icex3 and got repeatedly punished. Even vs EG his invoker play was uninspiring, and so many times his veno was just not in the right place when needed. I don't understand why they didnt pick anything from last week's Dreamleague, like the ET+ zeus + slark combinations. Bone7 needs to play more "meta" offlaners. He just cant keep playing Legion + Batrider over and over and expect to get away with it. He needs to play tide, centaur and maybe timber at a higher level. They are definitely two levels lower than his Bat, Finally the lich picks (both this series and vs EG), left me scratching my head. He offers nothing past the early 5 minutes. Enigma, or a 4 position naga( even though AUI doesnt play it) would have been an all round better pick. | ||
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Exoteric
Australia2330 Posts
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DucK-
Singapore11447 Posts
On December 08 2014 14:31 Exoteric wrote: the brood ban in the first phase made no sense, it's not like they can't deal with her if vg picked earlier than 5th pick. c9 just seem to have a significant mental block whenever they reach the finals of something, where at least 1 person plays awful along with really questionable drafting compared to the games leading up to the final. they really messed up dewarding as well, I honestly thought the wards vg placed near the dire ancients were very common locations. Yea brood will never be picked in first phase. Even if it did get picked, it will be easy to deal with. If they're scared of brood, ban the hero in 2nd phase. | ||
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the bear jew
United States3674 Posts
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spudde123
4814 Posts
Another explanation could be that because the 3 first games didn't go well for c9 (although the 3rd game ended in their win), they just totally wanted to change the draft around. There are some situations where teams ban a hero in the 1st phase that the opponent may not even be 1st picking just to leave some other strong heroes in the pool so that you can get what you want in the early picks (enemy can't ban or pick them all). | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
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