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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
July 21 2014 16:11 GMT
#341
Yeah it sucks with bones visa issues, because he seems to have fixed the issues he seemed to have on LAN, he was easily MVP in a lot of their games this event.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
yyfpulls
Profile Joined November 2012
United States2185 Posts
July 21 2014 16:51 GMT
#342
I want qoqjva to leave Liquid and join C9. How awesome would that be. qojqva was supposed to join Kaipi but chose Liquid instead. It could happen. Kick out bone or pld. Probably bone because of Visas.
Spriki
Profile Joined April 2012
216 Posts
July 21 2014 17:01 GMT
#343
On July 22 2014 00:58 DucK- wrote:
Don't see any changes in c9. Only possible change is bone7 with all his visa difficulties.

I wish they would stay together though. Like I said many times before, on their day c9 can beat anybody convincingly. Its just that suddenly wild clown 9 appears so often. The only thing consistent is this inconsistency of which team will show up.

If it weren't for the occasional clown9 appearance, their play would be pretty boring imo

It's what makes c9 the c9 we know, the greedy plays that look ingenious when they pay off and the fails that come after if those gambles don't pay off
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Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 18:46:14
July 21 2014 17:18 GMT
#344
I can see both PLD and bone7 leaving the team even tho I don't want them to. The best possible replacement for them is kky and qojqva obviously.
spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-21 17:28:02
July 21 2014 17:27 GMT
#345
I don't think PLD leaving the team is likely. He is one of the guys capable of taking a leadership role in game, and EE has said multiple times that he sees PLD as the best player of the team. Also considering the history of bone7, EE and PLD for the past 1.5 years, I don't think it's likely that anyone will be kicked off the team for performance reasons. If there are some problems internally, or if someone gets an offer from some major team and wants to leave, changes may happen.
NeoRussia
Profile Joined January 2013
Canada381 Posts
July 21 2014 20:46 GMT
#346
TI4 was rigged, C9 are the true winners. I refuse to believe otherwise, boring fucking finals.
#BUFFEARTH
Giga
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United Kingdom114 Posts
July 21 2014 23:38 GMT
#347
I don't think their performance is anything to break off a player for.

Other than inconsistency they're extremely good, I think working together and fixing the inconsistency they would be good contenders for even next TI.

#ThePowerOfFriendship.
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fzeroonline
Profile Joined December 2012
89 Posts
July 22 2014 00:40 GMT
#348
C9 exceeded all expectations and they were very close to winning a series against the #2 team, the team that EG couldn't even last 15 minutes against. This team still has a lot of potential and is one of the most entertaining teams to watch. Nobody else has the guts to pick a support BH and Meepo down 0-1 in a bo3 except C9.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
July 22 2014 01:11 GMT
#349
On July 22 2014 02:01 Spriki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 00:58 DucK- wrote:
Don't see any changes in c9. Only possible change is bone7 with all his visa difficulties.

I wish they would stay together though. Like I said many times before, on their day c9 can beat anybody convincingly. Its just that suddenly wild clown 9 appears so often. The only thing consistent is this inconsistency of which team will show up.

If it weren't for the occasional clown9 appearance, their play would be pretty boring imo

It's what makes c9 the c9 we know, the greedy plays that look ingenious when they pay off and the fails that come after if those gambles don't pay off

uh, a lot of their drafts aren't considered clown (drow visage), clown9 tends to refer to the impossible drafts that clearly cannot pay off

the drafts that look plausible but strange are what c9 fans live for
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hootsushi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany3468 Posts
July 22 2014 02:28 GMT
#350
On July 22 2014 10:11 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 02:01 Spriki wrote:
On July 22 2014 00:58 DucK- wrote:
Don't see any changes in c9. Only possible change is bone7 with all his visa difficulties.

I wish they would stay together though. Like I said many times before, on their day c9 can beat anybody convincingly. Its just that suddenly wild clown 9 appears so often. The only thing consistent is this inconsistency of which team will show up.

If it weren't for the occasional clown9 appearance, their play would be pretty boring imo

It's what makes c9 the c9 we know, the greedy plays that look ingenious when they pay off and the fails that come after if those gambles don't pay off

uh, a lot of their drafts aren't considered clown (drow visage), clown9 tends to refer to the impossible drafts that clearly cannot pay off

the drafts that look plausible but strange are what c9 fans live for


Sing playing an actually legit meepo is the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Logo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
July 22 2014 03:17 GMT
#351
On July 22 2014 02:27 spudde123 wrote:
I don't think PLD leaving the team is likely. He is one of the guys capable of taking a leadership role in game, and EE has said multiple times that he sees PLD as the best player of the team. Also considering the history of bone7, EE and PLD for the past 1.5 years, I don't think it's likely that anyone will be kicked off the team for performance reasons. If there are some problems internally, or if someone gets an offer from some major team and wants to leave, changes may happen.


C9 seems to value PLD more than any caster/commentator or even most fans. EE (I think) even said that PLD carried the game vs LGD with his BH play.
Logo
Furikawari
Profile Joined February 2014
France2522 Posts
July 22 2014 05:02 GMT
#352
On July 22 2014 12:17 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 02:27 spudde123 wrote:
I don't think PLD leaving the team is likely. He is one of the guys capable of taking a leadership role in game, and EE has said multiple times that he sees PLD as the best player of the team. Also considering the history of bone7, EE and PLD for the past 1.5 years, I don't think it's likely that anyone will be kicked off the team for performance reasons. If there are some problems internally, or if someone gets an offer from some major team and wants to leave, changes may happen.


C9 seems to value PLD more than any caster/commentator or even most fans. EE (I think) even said that PLD carried the game vs LGD with his BH play.


And it was obvious (for the carrying). Commentators being shitty should not blind people, in game the space created was obvious even to a medriocre player like me. I was quite surprised to hear that the panel called out PLD BH (I rarely watched the panel, only in-client stuff).
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
July 22 2014 07:06 GMT
#353
On July 22 2014 12:17 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 02:27 spudde123 wrote:
I don't think PLD leaving the team is likely. He is one of the guys capable of taking a leadership role in game, and EE has said multiple times that he sees PLD as the best player of the team. Also considering the history of bone7, EE and PLD for the past 1.5 years, I don't think it's likely that anyone will be kicked off the team for performance reasons. If there are some problems internally, or if someone gets an offer from some major team and wants to leave, changes may happen.


C9 seems to value PLD more than any caster/commentator or even most fans. EE (I think) even said that PLD carried the game vs LGD with his BH play.


It's also a lot of behind the scene stuff within the team that outsiders (even casters) not know about, like how PLD captaining the team and theory-crafting strategies. IIRC, in some interview long ago C9 swiftly mentioned about how PLD has a lot of knowledge and strategies in the game
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spudde123
Profile Joined February 2012
4814 Posts
July 22 2014 08:37 GMT
#354
On July 22 2014 12:17 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 02:27 spudde123 wrote:
I don't think PLD leaving the team is likely. He is one of the guys capable of taking a leadership role in game, and EE has said multiple times that he sees PLD as the best player of the team. Also considering the history of bone7, EE and PLD for the past 1.5 years, I don't think it's likely that anyone will be kicked off the team for performance reasons. If there are some problems internally, or if someone gets an offer from some major team and wants to leave, changes may happen.


C9 seems to value PLD more than any caster/commentator or even most fans. EE (I think) even said that PLD carried the game vs LGD with his BH play.


I think almost always people who are a part of developing strategies for the team and in charge of implementing those in game end up being underappreciated in the public eye (unless you are part of a winning team in which case people start singing your praises). Moreover, my experience is that the people who are capable of taking a leadership role in a team are almost always among the most respected players in the pro community. When you play on a high level in any sport or game, you learn to appreciate how certain people make the game easier for others and allow them to shine. Also of course unless one follows a team very closely, it's not always clear to the outside who is the one making the calls in the team and what role does everyone exactly play.
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-22 12:23:24
July 22 2014 12:23 GMT
#355
just saw this on reddit
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2bdyhe/some_of_v1lats_tweets_regarding_post_ti_shuffle/

Решафл. Флай останется с Резолюшн, Маг куда то уйдет, Пайлайдай не помешал бы в Альянс. В С9 останутся только 2 игрока
Reshuffle. ALWAYSWANNAFLY stays with Resolution, Mag leaving somewhere, Pieliedie would be nice in Alliance. C9 keep only 2 players.

T___T Please be just rumour. Barring internal issues that we outsider dont know, Aui potential returning to school and bone7 visa issues, I really do hope they stick together. They are championship-calibre team with great skills, just need to be less clowny at crucial time, but overall there are still a lot of room for growth. And fuck Alliance messing up with EE-sama again
ELqQQT_T
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-22 12:30:50
July 22 2014 12:26 GMT
#356
Christ i hope that's just a rumor. The team has great chemistry and were close to making top 4 this TI.
Stay together for fuck sake.

Makes even less sense for pie to leave his current team and join alliance when C9 is clearly the stronger team atm.

I mean, assuming there are no internal conflicts. If there are... i hope they can be resolved.
The guys seemed to all enjoy being on C9 and seemed to enjoy playing together. But obviously there might be stuff happening behind the scenes that we don't know about.

But i hope they stay together
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Khylol
Profile Joined June 2014
United States279 Posts
July 22 2014 12:30 GMT
#357
On July 22 2014 21:26 Unleashing wrote:
Christ i hope that's just a rumor. The team has great chemistry and were close to making top 4 this TI.
Stay together for fuck sake.

Makes even less sense for pie to leave his current team and join alliance when C9 is clearly the stronger team atm.


Yeah this is not even a very convincing rumor. They still won a decent amount of money, if the teams shuffles I don't think it will be because of players retiring to go back to school... Pie in [a] makes no sense, even if he does leave the team.
"I basically just do manga shit so fuck off." - EternaLEnVy // youtube.com/kyluls
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-07-22 12:39:49
July 22 2014 12:39 GMT
#358
On July 22 2014 21:30 Khylol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 21:26 Unleashing wrote:
Christ i hope that's just a rumor. The team has great chemistry and were close to making top 4 this TI.
Stay together for fuck sake.

Makes even less sense for pie to leave his current team and join alliance when C9 is clearly the stronger team atm.


Yeah this is not even a very convincing rumor. They still won a decent amount of money, if the teams shuffles I don't think it will be because of players retiring to go back to school... Pie in [a] makes no sense, even if he does leave the team.


pie to [a] makes some sense actually. The main core of [a] will always be bulldog and s4. egm may be/may be not. It's most likely that loda and/or akke going to retire, and with akke retiring, the best swede support they can get is either zai (not gonna happen) or pie. unless the all swedish shenanigan thing is also gone with loda

but make sense or not, fuck this
ELqQQT_T
Khylol
Profile Joined June 2014
United States279 Posts
July 22 2014 12:41 GMT
#359
On July 22 2014 21:39 bluegarfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 21:30 Khylol wrote:
On July 22 2014 21:26 Unleashing wrote:
Christ i hope that's just a rumor. The team has great chemistry and were close to making top 4 this TI.
Stay together for fuck sake.

Makes even less sense for pie to leave his current team and join alliance when C9 is clearly the stronger team atm.


Yeah this is not even a very convincing rumor. They still won a decent amount of money, if the teams shuffles I don't think it will be because of players retiring to go back to school... Pie in [a] makes no sense, even if he does leave the team.


pie to [a] makes some sense actually. The main core of [a] will always be bulldog and s4. egm may be/may be not. It's most likely that loda and/or akke going to retire, and with akke retiring, the best swede support they can get is either zai (not gonna happen) or pie. unless the all swedish shenanigan thing is also gone with loda

but make sense or not, fuck this


If it still has to be five swedes you're going to need to add more than just pie then, what other swedish players are there?
"I basically just do manga shit so fuck off." - EternaLEnVy // youtube.com/kyluls
bluegarfield
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore1128 Posts
July 22 2014 12:46 GMT
#360
On July 22 2014 21:41 Khylol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2014 21:39 bluegarfield wrote:
On July 22 2014 21:30 Khylol wrote:
On July 22 2014 21:26 Unleashing wrote:
Christ i hope that's just a rumor. The team has great chemistry and were close to making top 4 this TI.
Stay together for fuck sake.

Makes even less sense for pie to leave his current team and join alliance when C9 is clearly the stronger team atm.


Yeah this is not even a very convincing rumor. They still won a decent amount of money, if the teams shuffles I don't think it will be because of players retiring to go back to school... Pie in [a] makes no sense, even if he does leave the team.


pie to [a] makes some sense actually. The main core of [a] will always be bulldog and s4. egm may be/may be not. It's most likely that loda and/or akke going to retire, and with akke retiring, the best swede support they can get is either zai (not gonna happen) or pie. unless the all swedish shenanigan thing is also gone with loda

but make sense or not, fuck this


If it still has to be five swedes you're going to need to add more than just pie then, what other swedish players are there?


s4, bulldog, egm, pie and xcal/piecat/era may be? (assuming that rumour about fnatic reshuffle also true)
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