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lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
March 06 2019 19:40 GMT
#21
On March 07 2019 00:43 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
On a scale from one to release monkey king how strong is this guy? His W scaling with damage seems pretty broken


A solid five, one of the most well balanced on-release heroes in recent history.
DeMoN pulls off a Miracle and Flies to the Moon
Gear 3rd
Profile Joined July 2011
1244 Posts
March 06 2019 22:20 GMT
#22
I agree. His W is not bad but it has pretty high cd and low-ish range to really be a force to be reckoned with I think.
Seems well rounded. The face kinda reminds me of Ganondorf from Twilight Princess.
I can see him as different roles but propably mainly carry or Offlane. I think people dont realize the potential in blocking tower hits with his ult, which should be a great tool for early skirmishes.
Soul ring seems to be a must tho since he has really low mana.
EXTERMINATE!
Qualitaetsgarant
Profile Joined April 2018
124 Posts
March 07 2019 00:09 GMT
#23
Phoenix was the most imba release i think.
Endless Sunray with slow and huge dmg, safe kill lvl1 on any hero. x
ahw
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1099 Posts
March 07 2019 00:10 GMT
#24
On March 07 2019 09:09 Qualitaetsgarant wrote:
Phoenix was the most imba release i think.
Endless Sunray with slow and huge dmg, safe kill lvl1 on any hero. x


That honour belongs to earth spirit m8
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2532 Posts
March 07 2019 00:21 GMT
#25
Or Centaur and team AoE stunpede.
lolfail9001
Profile Joined August 2013
Russian Federation40190 Posts
March 07 2019 00:30 GMT
#26
On March 07 2019 09:21 Fleetfeet wrote:
Or Centaur and team AoE stunpede.


Arc Warden, Oracle, 6.80 Terrorblade.

Pretty much only Pango was not outright broken on release.
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DucK-
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Singapore11447 Posts
March 07 2019 02:21 GMT
#27
So basically the combo is to ult and spear to the arena and let the arena damage while stunned? Still not sure what this hero is useful for without items.
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
March 07 2019 03:05 GMT
#28
On March 06 2019 05:27 neozxa wrote:
Yeah the face is pretty ugly.
Its like she went through a botox procedure and got cataract. Its not very nice to look at.

No complaining. People wanted the facepaint lines back and they got it. If you speak against them, you're factually wrong.
NO MORE CHEN NERFS!!!
shred_zeppelin1
Profile Joined March 2019
3 Posts
March 07 2019 08:45 GMT
#29
Some potentially strong combinations for Mars‘ ultimate come to my mind.

Basically any AoE-damage sources, from which you cannot run when trapped inside the arena:

Arena of Blood + MK’s Wukongs Command
Arena of Blood + Phoenix Supernova à guaranteed stun from supernova
Arena of Blood + CM Freezing Field
Arena of Blood + AA Frost Blast
Arena of Blood + Alchemist Acid Spray
Arena of Blood + Disruptor Static Storm into Static Field à Foes are trapped even longer inside the aera
Arena of Blood + Jakiro Macropyre
Arena of Blood + Lich Ulti
Arena of Blood + SK Epicenter
Arena of Blood + Sniper Shrapnel
Arena of Blood + WD DeathWard
Arena of Blood + Tinker March of the Machines
Arena of Blood + Riki Ultimate

Another possibility is extended crowd control:

Arena of Blood + Void Chronosphere
Arena of Blood + Tidehunter Ravage
Arena of Blood + KotL Will-O-Wisp
Arena of Blood + Treant Overgrowth

Also a question: does Pangolier Ulti bounce from the arena walls if Pango is in the same team as Mars?

What other cool combinations can you think of?
MotherOfRunes
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2862 Posts
March 07 2019 13:31 GMT
#30
On March 06 2019 05:13 ASoo wrote:
Bristleback + Bulwark ability draft, EZ

thats fucking disgusting :D
"Your Razor sucks!" -Kuroky's Dad
GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
March 07 2019 15:27 GMT
#31
On March 07 2019 17:45 shred_zeppelin1 wrote:

Also a question: does Pangolier Ulti bounce from the arena walls if Pango is in the same team as Mars?



Teammates can walk through the arena walls right? So no?
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Gear 3rd
Profile Joined July 2011
1244 Posts
March 07 2019 18:07 GMT
#32
Since Pango is magic immune in his ult it shouldnt affect him at all.
Funny interaction: If an enemy pudge hooks his mate out of your ult he will bounce of the wall, take dmg, then disappear and spawn next to pudge
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Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
March 08 2019 17:31 GMT
#33
not sure what s up with this hero, seems strong, especially that ult, so far met him 5 times, 3 times enemy team 2 times my team, every single time the team with Mars lost.
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LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
March 09 2019 00:28 GMT
#34
Shit Winrate in safelane does well mid in offline Dota buff says
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GOHF
Profile Joined December 2015
United States1864 Posts
March 09 2019 05:56 GMT
#35
He's absolutely not a farming carry. He's got a decent stun and two nukes and a teamfight ultimate with a reasonable cooldown timer. He's a kinda playmaking offlaner or even a midlaner, but it's preferred if he's got teammates who have aoe abilities to throw on top of the arena. My party's stack has our Mars picker running him offlane and insisting one of us has a Crystal Maiden (not me) on our team. He goes for a greedier build with echo sabre and shadow blade, but we end up winning all our games we get him.
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ahw
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1099 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-09 14:04:04
March 09 2019 13:55 GMT
#36
After playing with / against him a bunch at divine bracket...

He loses his impact when your cores get bkb. Might even be worth going second item bkb on most carries so you can easily dodge their inevitable 4 or 5 man gank/pushes. It’s actually insane how bad he feels when you just BKB

I don’t think people are using his ult correctly for the most part. you wanna hit people on the edge for the bounce damage / effect repeatedly, almost like darkseer wall. In general you wanna catch the supports. I think it would be a nice buff if the arena granted truesight or something

He’s pretty good in lane because spear lets him secure ranger creeps and that but he is pretty bad against any magic laner like veno or viper or qop or storm or whatever

He scales pretty nicely with W, vlads / satanic is difficult to deal with

Overall he seems pretty okay but not crazy strong
nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-11 01:29:29
March 11 2019 01:25 GMT
#37
think about interactions with the shield wall damage, and other spells that are normally difficult to hit in the open.

when the arena traps people without bkb, their first instinct is to run, and so they take continual damage doing so, or eventually get stunned into the wall anyway. if they are smarter, they stay away from the edge and wait the seconds out.

however if you catch a bunch of people and throw dark willow fear on top, lone druid, or anything like that, they are forced to the edge no matter what.

then you land whatever else spells. a lot of heroes with either euls + blink or OD with blink can ignore this interaction themselves, but the rest of his team is in a very bad spot and you still either have to deal with the hero, or everyone ignores him.

I think his strongest overall pairing is with disruptor on the same team.
the midgame catch between the two + any kill hero is very high.
ursa, CK, maybe even wraith king to capitalize on the chaos.

his damage dealing is pretty bad outside of hitting supports, but is still a waste of time dealing with, and so he can do pretty well as secondary lane shove with the plus of blink as a core item.
unlike bristle who is completely unimpactful if they get nothing in lane, this hero at least has an ulti that still offers something.
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