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BoesFX
Profile Joined April 2013
1465 Posts
March 24 2015 12:42 GMT
#21
So what is your point?
Iceiceice and Chuan are proven SEA players and there is no language barrier between them and chinese players. If they retired, they will just be replaced by other chinese players, so saying that they took spots from SEA players is silly. When Mushi and co. returned to Malaysia since it didn't work out in China, you said that his team will inevitably fail and just suck up all the talents. Isn't that thinking totally backwards? How else do you think a SEA team will have a chance in TI? Mushi even goes to position 5, so KecikImba can show his potential. It could be said that EHOME.my is potential EG of SEA.
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
March 24 2015 13:08 GMT
#22
somehow I've seen this playout with Ack1027 before
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3457 Posts
March 24 2015 16:41 GMT
#23
On March 24 2015 20:06 Ack1027 wrote:
No...the region would have more reasons to want to grow..anyone from any region loves seeing their players in a top China team. When mushi goes back to sea he immediately sucks up any and all pure sea talent in a roster around him...and when it inevitably fails to reach his goals or disbands there's confusion as to why sea doesn't grow. Its not even that he's ON a top Chinese team...its that being on a team like DK commands respect so pure SEA teams fall in line to a capped commodity of a player.

Also when did zenith win or threaten the eventual TI winner at TI...? Context please

I'm not following the logic here. SEA current uprising talents see no point in getting good because there's no chance to play in the big teams when the top (Chuan, Ice) are already there? Ok so those guys retire, the other SEA talent will have more motivation to get better because it suddenly easier to get in somehow?

And for the respect thing, if the other SEA players stop trying to get to the top because their countrymen are already there, then they never have what it takes in the first plac. No self desire to become the best themselves then no one can help.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 24 2015 23:11 GMT
#24
On March 24 2015 19:54 Ack1027 wrote:
Why would players in SEA bother trying to become better than mushi in their current dismal tournament circuit and extremely low chance to outplay the spotlight on ice3 and mushi?

You post a wall of text that says nothing but "You're all stupid and I know more than you". At least have a good quality post when you call others bad quality.

Your points are illogical and it only comes from your bias against the region: let's put it into a different context (post TI2 CIS):

Why would players in CIS bother trying to become better than Dendi in their current dismal tournament circuit and extremely low chance to outplay the spotlight on LoH and Dendi?


Now why didn't that happen? Because CIS never had a dismal tournament circuit since it was connected to the rest of the West. SEA doesn't have a "real" international tournament circuit anymore, and this is the real root of the problem, not because 1 team is magically cockblocking the rest of the scene from being good despite the fact that they "dominated the scene" for many years. Let's just blame Mushi's team and Ice3s team and YamateH's team despite the fact that they haven't won ANY qualifiers for almost a year, and win the same pathetic prizepools as the rest of the region. They even disbanded this year, sending out top SEA talent to other teams that all ended up being extremely lousy. Let's also blame Mushi for sabotaging their hard work and effort.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-25 04:05:07
March 25 2015 04:04 GMT
#25
In any case, everyone knows the best SEA player is actually kyxy.

EDIT: Oh and fucking Kingsurf, yeah I forgot.
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
April 11 2015 10:56 GMT
#26
the individual talents are not lacking but $$$ come into dota and other regions got more organized.

follow the $$ you can see why certain regions do well.
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