EPTStrategy Over Skill: Alliance Ascendant - Page 6
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Csaega
Belarus2 Posts
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mutantmagnet
United States3807 Posts
On December 02 2014 23:36 goody153 wrote: This is amazing. Do a newbee analysis next time pls ! (or maybe C9 since they win games weirdly) and the obligatory LIQUID ARE DOING IT I would rather see a DK 2013-2014 analysis and how come they fell short and why did 6.80? affect them so badly. | ||
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Extterm55
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
Really agree about your assesments I always viewed Alliance as a tree, S4 was the roots, Akke and EGM the branches and Loda/Bulldog the canopy/leaves. | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3339 Posts
On December 02 2014 23:19 bagels21 wrote: That was the common view back then, ban one of LD/NP and one of bat/wisp and then take whatever's left however, Ver explicitly mentions how Na'vi started beating Alliance when they banned all 4 of their core greedy supports (naga, chen ,enchant, wisp) Yeah I remember when people would consistently ban out bulldog heroes and would just lose because NP, LD, or even clockwork (he was pretty good at clock at some point) would get through. After that really didn't work out, they started banning s4 heroes, which was somewhat successful. Realizing that the supports were the biggest problem was what allowed Na'Vi to stand a chance. | ||
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Divine-Sneaker
Denmark1225 Posts
Amazing read and analysis as well as a great design/layout. This made me miss the 6,78 era even more. | ||
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TalonK
United States16 Posts
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evanthebouncy!
United States12807 Posts
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
Nevertheless I still have to disagree with a title that seems to fortify the idea that strategy is not (a) skill. | ||
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Pazuzu
United States632 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10954 Posts
in retrospect I still wonder... Just how important were Whisp and Bat, I mean... Would alliance have made it (that easily) thru whiteout Bat (or fallback Whisp (or them being guaranteed bans). | ||
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goody153
44303 Posts
On December 03 2014 01:58 mutantmagnet wrote: I would rather see a DK 2013-2014 analysis and how come they fell short and why did 6.80? affect them so badly. DK 2013 power seems to be on the element of surprise, ofc DK is still so god damn good even without it. I remember lanm saying in some stream interview that they beat everyone in SL8(or was it SL9) because everything they did was a pocket strat or something. I'm actually more interested in newbee since they have this trademark aggressive play that punishes the opponents so heavily. Idk they seem more interesting since they have a specific style that beats everything compared to DK who was very versatile. Of course newbee pre-rabbit. | ||
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molecu
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
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Vkelaya
Bangladesh2 Posts
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Cheps
United Arab Emirates197 Posts
Great read! | ||
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Caladbolg
2855 Posts
On December 03 2014 01:58 mutantmagnet wrote: I would rather see a DK 2013-2014 analysis and how come they fell short and why did 6.80? affect them so badly. Lanm's stream AMA and post-retirement interviews somewhat sums it up: they were dominant when playing unconventionally and when scattered around the map, but not as good when teamfighting/grouping up. When the patch made things shift towards early fights and tower clashes, they lost steam and couldn't adjust in time. | ||
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Meta
United States6228 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33701 Posts
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Perseides
Malaysia4 Posts
Always bugged me why in Navi lost so badly in the winner bracket's final, but yet both teams stood toe to toe in the rematch in grand final just less than a day later. Thanks for the great article! | ||
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