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TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
December 04 2014 00:17 GMT
#121
GREAT ARTICLE!!!


It's what this site needed.

I would also love to see an anlisis of 2013/2014 DK rise and fall.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3265 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-05 13:31:23
December 05 2014 13:30 GMT
#122
Great article, a very good read. RIP Alliance I guess with the tombstone at the end?
Also nice format, looks really good.

Just to add to how crazy it is to ban naga chen over Io: Io went 17:8 in the tournament and won 4 times out of 4 picks in the grand final. But those games where the only ones where a team consistently came close to winning against alliance so I guess it was the right call after all.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
December 05 2014 14:10 GMT
#123
The runes actually mean something by the way, so it's not complete nonsense. It should be proper old norse at least.
Graphics
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3764 Posts
December 05 2014 19:51 GMT
#124
On December 02 2014 03:27 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2014 03:26 shz wrote:
Yay. Ver articles \o/

I hate ver. He has such insight and I'm jealous.

OMG. This is Ver's work indeed. Such impressive >.> After God of the Battlefield this... Kudos.
Ufnal
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland1435 Posts
December 06 2014 12:37 GMT
#125
This is pure gold. Fuck, pure diamonds. This is like the best thing I've read on this site, ever. And it brings me back to TI3 - which was my first contact with DOTA, ever. And God, was it glorious. <3

Personal things aside, this kind of in-depth analysis is what I was looking for all my (short) DOTA life. Lots of insight, lots of great ideas, lots of feels. I am not nearly good enough to judge how accurate this is (although to my limited understanding and logics it seems really good), but for a noob like me, who often doesn't get all the subtelties and would very much like to get them, this is the best thing ever!

Also, the sentence about snowballing like a Huskar with 5 Meepos in it is so good that I can't believe nobody used it before (or maybe I haven't noticed) O.o

And one more thing - I didn't realise that the Son of Magnus played so little Magnus back then. o.O
OG | Secret | Liquid | Nigma | Alliance | VP | Fnatic | EG | T1 | LGD
nedro
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
21 Posts
December 07 2014 12:20 GMT
#126
I've always been a Ver fan and I'm really glad when he releases new articles! Great read!
"We shouldn't praise or condemn anyone, but rather try to promote a positive attitude towards what's good for everyone..." -aTnClouD
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
December 07 2014 13:33 GMT
#127
On December 06 2014 21:37 Ufnal wrote:
This is pure gold. Fuck, pure diamonds. This is like the best thing I've read on this site, ever. And it brings me back to TI3 - which was my first contact with DOTA, ever. And God, was it glorious. <3

Personal things aside, this kind of in-depth analysis is what I was looking for all my (short) DOTA life. Lots of insight, lots of great ideas, lots of feels. I am not nearly good enough to judge how accurate this is (although to my limited understanding and logics it seems really good), but for a noob like me, who often doesn't get all the subtelties and would very much like to get them, this is the best thing ever!

Also, the sentence about snowballing like a Huskar with 5 Meepos in it is so good that I can't believe nobody used it before (or maybe I haven't noticed) O.o

And one more thing - I didn't realise that the Son of Magnus played so little Magnus back then. o.O

Bro, tusk not huskar
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17756 Posts
December 08 2014 15:42 GMT
#128
Why are there Tolkien runes at the bottom of the article?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
December 08 2014 16:02 GMT
#129
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noire
Profile Joined July 2012
Turkey213 Posts
December 08 2014 16:13 GMT
#130
alliance stratagy not best in this games
İstanbul
Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
December 08 2014 16:23 GMT
#131
On December 09 2014 00:42 Manit0u wrote:
Why are there Tolkien runes at the bottom of the article?

They're not.
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17756 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-08 17:13:34
December 08 2014 17:03 GMT
#132
On December 09 2014 01:23 Nixer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 00:42 Manit0u wrote:
Why are there Tolkien runes at the bottom of the article?

They're not.


[image loading]

Looks pretty much like this...

For comparison:

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Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
December 08 2014 23:44 GMT
#133
On December 09 2014 02:03 Manit0u wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 01:23 Nixer wrote:
On December 09 2014 00:42 Manit0u wrote:
Why are there Tolkien runes at the bottom of the article?

They're not.


[image loading]

Looks pretty much like this...

For comparison:

[image loading]

It's medieval runes.
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ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
December 15 2014 01:32 GMT
#134
Great write-up!
Huruid
Profile Joined November 2013
Sweden22 Posts
December 15 2014 10:09 GMT
#135
The runes are Younger Futhark (the kind on Swedish runestones) and reads "til minink aftir matr" repeatedly.
Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
December 15 2014 11:07 GMT
#136
On December 15 2014 19:09 Huruid wrote:
The runes are Younger Futhark (the kind on Swedish runestones) and reads "til minink aftir matr" repeatedly.

Nope, it's medieval runes like I said so you got the reading wrong, although younger futhark is pretty close since medieval runes (or futhork) kind of evolved from it.
Graphics
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
December 20 2014 03:36 GMT
#137
Awesome article! It's like reading an online book about Dota history.

I will never forget Alliance's dominance in 2013. It showed that there is something else more important other than just individual talent and game mechanics.
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Deleted User 97295
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1137 Posts
January 17 2015 00:40 GMT
#138
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MuazizTremere
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands67 Posts
January 17 2015 18:39 GMT
#139
Maybe because the article, when it was posted, discussed a tournament that finished 17 months earlier and that most of the unique strategy-elements that made Alliance so succesfull in TI3 are obsolete now?

TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
January 17 2015 18:41 GMT
#140
On January 18 2015 03:39 MuazizTremere wrote:
Maybe because the article, when it was posted, discussed a tournament that finished 17 months earlier and that most of the unique strategy-elements that made Alliance so succesfull in TI3 are obsolete now?


They are not obsolete. They are just used by everyone.
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