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Dattish
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden6297 Posts
December 29 2014 14:10 GMT
#2241
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
December 29 2014 14:14 GMT
#2242
On December 29 2014 23:10 Dattish wrote:
Yeah, tortes taste is on the level of 12 year old cod players.


Please, he appears to at least be kollin's age
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-29 14:23:29
December 29 2014 14:14 GMT
#2243
You are literally the only person I have meet that disliked bastion. I loved the game's meloncholy mood and the characters being discarded members society. The mechanics were great too. It was like Zelda in mechanics with a more richer story that was there if you wanted it.

But if you didn't like the narrator, the game would be hard to get into.

Transistor was also great for its story, but I didn't like it being locked behind styles of playing the game.

Edit: but fuck all that, you should play banner saga, because it's a good and super mean.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-29 14:32:29
December 29 2014 14:24 GMT
#2244
Fight me assholes!

Bastion was repetitive and begged you to use their different weapons that were either plainly worse than what clears shit the fastest or it was quite simply easier to dodge roll past everything.

The art, was good, the level design and levels were quaint and cute, but I would never play it again.

Don't get me wrong, I have my own pocket favourites like Machinarium or Osmosis. I mean, have any of you played Hawken? That's a pretty sweet multiplayer game.

I even enjoyed Fez which felt a bit dragged out, but they did so much less with Fez, yet accomplished much more "wonder" and intrigue than Bastion which dangled its "big surprise" 50 times. Transistor was at least subtle about it, but not Bastion. Each narrated level read like the worst Agatha Christie book (and I mean the shittiest one)

I will say Bastion added a lot of bang for the buck, the handicaps, collectibles, etc. It added challenge because it wasn't challenging, just frustrating key choked areas that were annoying, not engaging to overcome.




I literally go out of my way to try and play as many diverse games that gets hyped up as crazy. This was not the most disappointing, but I definitely felt people herald it as something amazing when it was hardly so. It nailed a lot of traditional things that every other dev overlooks because it's "expected" but also kept other aspects one-dimensional and the story was still rather plain.

Transistor was pretentious though, like I'm meant to study it for my Eng. Lit class or something.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 29 2014 14:30 GMT
#2245
By that metric, Zelda is repetitive. I will admit that the hammer is really good. But the machete and breaker's bow is also super viable and amazing. Really, most of the weapon combos work, even the mortar. But if you didn't do the dream stuff to get everyone's back story and the rewards.

Damn, now I want to go back. Maybe I'll play it on my phone, since I hear that version is pretty fun.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 29 2014 14:34 GMT
#2246
On December 29 2014 23:30 Plansix wrote:
By that metric, Zelda is repetitive. I will admit that the hammer is really good. But the machete and breaker's bow is also super viable and amazing. Really, most of the weapon combos work, even the mortar. But if you didn't do the dream stuff to get everyone's back story and the rewards.

Damn, now I want to go back. Maybe I'll play it on my phone, since I hear that version is pretty fun.


Yes it is. I've only played three Zeldas (finished two): Ocarina of Time (Master Sword, never finished it), Phantom Hourglass (DS and the train sequel one) and Wind Waker which is my favourite.

I also have the CD-I Zelda game if that matters.
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-29 14:36:54
December 29 2014 14:35 GMT
#2247
Zelda is repetitive on an entirely different scale - and there was honestly no reason for any of the 3d Zeldas after WW to exist
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 29 2014 14:39 GMT
#2248
Zelda is repetitive in its formula, but that is also why it is so loved as they change the environment, but maintain what generations of players recognize and love.

Then they slowly incorporate new gadgets/dungeons, contextual stories (more or less on that last part)
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VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
December 29 2014 14:41 GMT
#2249
Dude
I can't let you telling stuff like that
ZELDA REPETITIVE ?
i'm a fucking huge fan of it, i even get tattoo of this game, i play zelda since ages and i never get bored.

and BTW : OoT > WW
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
December 29 2014 14:42 GMT
#2250
There's nothing wrong with being fans of repetitive games - like CoD, Zelda, or Dota
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 29 2014 14:44 GMT
#2251
Yeah, I was mostly taking to task the idea that a game have repeating portions as something bad. Far Cry 4 is super repetitive, but I can't get enough of hunting rhinos with a bow and C4.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
December 29 2014 14:46 GMT
#2252
Well all games are repetitive so
always same goal etc etc
i feel liek Zelda is not repetitive at all - Exept the storyline who is essential in Zelda - cuz each versions have something new :
graphics
story
dungons
weapons
gameplay
etc etc

for example each CoD are the same! CS doto sc2 wc3 etc


BUT the point is that Zelda is not a competitive game, so he can change a lot of thing without losing fans ^-^
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
December 29 2014 14:47 GMT
#2253
hows dota repetitive everyday u deal with new idiots
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
December 29 2014 14:51 GMT
#2254
I am always amazed by the new ways people figure out how to throw each game.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 29 2014 14:51 GMT
#2255
bastion still sucks fyi
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
December 29 2014 14:53 GMT
#2256
are you baiting torte
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
VelJa
Profile Joined October 2011
France1109 Posts
December 29 2014 14:53 GMT
#2257
he is sooo hard XD
ANGRY_KOREA_MAN. -- Giff WC4 plz
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
December 29 2014 14:55 GMT
#2258
Demigod is the first MOBA

Battleforge should be an esport
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-29 14:56:34
December 29 2014 14:55 GMT
#2259
hi guis i tihnk defence of teh anceints is inferiorgaem to league of the legend lolololxxdd

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Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-29 15:01:41
December 29 2014 15:01 GMT
#2260
I feel that comic only works if the person acting "retarded" is not recognized or familiar with the people he's talking to.

In other words, you're just jamming that in there without it being really relevant to this thread's current context and relation to everyone involved.
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