EPT6.82 Balance Changes and Discussion Thread - Page 82
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Nymzee
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it seems rather silly that the team ahead has to play more carefully/cautiously than the team behind. at one point, zeus killed me and got 169 gold :D, i killed him back and got 2.2k. :D | ||
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Buckyman
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On September 27 2014 01:47 Nymzee wrote: at one point, zeus killed me and got 169 gold :D, i killed him back and got 2.2k. :D I'm sure it was 15 times harder for you to kill him than for him to kill you /s On September 27 2014 01:50 Buckyman wrote: If the comeback bonus is based on net worth, does that mean it's better to store items on the ground in the fountain than in stash? And that 6-slotted carries should buy and use consumables in base just to burn their excess gold? Networth includes unused consumables and items on the ground according to valve. So apart from literally buying and using salves (or selling and rebuying items) u can't decrease it like that. | ||
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Varth
United States426 Posts
We ended up winning the game with our better late game, but even my team of pubs thought the amount of gold swing was too much, we really did deserve to lose that game. | ||
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Buckyman
1364 Posts
On September 27 2014 01:51 Sn0_Man wrote: Networth includes unused consumables and items on the ground according to valve. So apart from literally buying and using salves (or selling and rebuying items) u can't decrease it like that. Okay then. Better not deny that enemy branch sitting in the middle of the lane, because it'll cost us a few gold next time we kill its owner (or they kill me). Also, burning a Clarity/Tango during each base visit feels like something 6-slotted players should already be doing. | ||
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Nymzee
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nojok
France15845 Posts
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Nymzee
3929 Posts
On September 27 2014 01:51 Sn0_Man wrote: I'm sure it was 15 times harder for you to kill him than for him to kill you /s last hitting with illuminate takes skill /s i think it needs to be reigned in by like 33-40% tbh. it's nice to have a catch up mechanic, but it shouldnt be so drastic that unless your team is built around killing t3 towers + barracks you can never end the game. On September 27 2014 02:01 nojok wrote: VG won one game with only one rax standing the last 10 minutes. i suck with editing quotes, im sorry. yea i saw this game, i thought it was kinda dumb. morphling got picked off in a silly spot, but really it just seems dumb that it can be such drastic swings. the net worth graph in that game looked like the EKG of a crack addict. | ||
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Daozzt
United States1263 Posts
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Trib
Canada18 Posts
As for pub games, feeders (or someone who gets ganked alot/has a bad start) can actually be good for your team. I like the comeback potential, though it may be a bit much - not totally sure yet. I think people just need to get used to the new play-style and realize the best team fight will usually win. | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On September 27 2014 01:37 ChunderBoy wrote: dude i died once, and gave an antimage a basher/heart and a buyback while i was busy respawning That's why you pick AM every game. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
On September 27 2014 02:08 Trib wrote: I think I noticed a bug on my Warlock where sometimes (early game) Fatal Bonds did 0 dmg. And yes it was on multiple units. Anyone else seen this? i don't know about bonds specifically but a lot of spells are not working as intended at the moment. I wouldn't be surprised if what you're saying is true. | ||
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
On September 27 2014 01:47 Nymzee wrote: i just think it may become a thing where you can feed early game and "get back into it" by just killing off their carry. it seems rather silly that the team ahead has to play more carefully/cautiously than the team behind. at one point, zeus killed me and got 169 gold :D, i killed him back and got 2.2k. :D Do you remember what the overall Net Worth of your teams were? Regardless, this is the kind of crap that's just not funny at the moment, whether it is solo laddering or watching pro matches. The swings are just too gigantic. | ||
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govie
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
On September 27 2014 01:52 Varth wrote: I had a game where the other team was destroying us, we have a safelane void who is choked out on farm with just a treads mom mael at 30mins. We get one lucky smoke gank where we came from highground onto their 5man ball lowground, wipe them (with void getting 3 last hits) he now has a fucking daed + 1k from just one fucking fight. We ended up winning the game with our better late game, but even my team of pubs thought the amount of gold swing was too much, we really did deserve to lose that game. Do you have a match ID? I'd like to watch that game. Agreed though, have played games today with a similar feeling. Eventually you just starting playing ultra-passive once you get ahead. As in; deward their entire map, choke their jungle and get Aegis, then just poking at towers with an anchor (Razor, Viper, Death Prophet etc) so as to not risk getting a bad teamfight and giving away 5-10k gold. | ||
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Mafe
Germany5966 Posts
edit: found it (It's available under the ingame clock, but only after a "fight". Which Valve seems to define slightly different than I do.) | ||
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Oktyabr
Singapore2234 Posts
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nojok
France15845 Posts
On September 27 2014 02:19 Oktyabr wrote: Icefrog is probably one of those kids spamming in twitch chat THE CUMBACK IS REAL. thank god for this mechanic though, my feeder cm grabbed a force staff + ghost just off killing 2 cores. You mean the smart CM who kept them at bay with huge killstreak and dangerously high networth, you don't seem to recognise sick tactics when you witness them. | ||
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Skyro
United States1823 Posts
On September 27 2014 02:15 Mafe wrote: I'm probably missing something obvious, but how can I see the fight recap screen? What's the default hotkey/Where's the respective entry in the options? edit: found it (It's available under the ingame clock, but only after a "fight". Which Valve seems to define slightly different than I do.) I totally forgot about this. Are these are just when you watch replays or for actual live games as well? | ||
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