EPTOn September 26 2014 15:27 Daralii wrote:
EE Blinkz, Aui on Khal Chen, Bone7 Batrider, PLD support Riki, Fata... something.
EE Blinkz, Aui on Khal Chen, Bone7 Batrider, PLD support Riki, Fata... something.
Fata is kill, they nerfed mek
6.82 Balance Changes and Discussion Thread - Page 71
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i.exies
United Kingdom28 Posts
Fata is kill, they nerfed mek | ||
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lolnoty
United States7166 Posts
On September 26 2014 15:51 Kuroeeah wrote: Honestly i was really quick to hating the change but I realized that before it was almost fucking impossible to overcome a 10k gold lead. Now games, literally are roller coasters where a 10k gold lead is equivalent to what a 3-5k gold lead was in the past and I'm not even joking when I say this. I might eat my words, these changes might be retarded but I'm starting to like it I was quick to hating it and turned into just dislike. I'd rather just see it slightly toned down, but I'm 99% sure it's already going to get toned down 6.82a with how Icefrog likes to do HUGE CHANGE -> tinker with it He's said that he intentionally makes things unbalanced just to get it attention/feedback back in dota1. | ||
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Geo.Rion
7377 Posts
the new PL is mega annoying, and Void is still a joke | ||
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i.exies
United Kingdom28 Posts
On September 26 2014 17:28 Geo.Rion wrote: Played my first game with this, one of the worst wins ever, 60 mins, 10 minutes at least had megacreeps, and faceless cancer, cancer lancer and lifestealer on the other team were all 6 slotted and wouldn not let it end, sigh the new PL is mega annoying, and Void is still a joke thats because voids strong suit was the starting stats and how dominant he as inlane, not necessarely disabling blur in chrono. | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On September 26 2014 17:44 xAdra wrote: Hmm, with Iceiceice's timberthaw set, both chakrams are blue in color. That's gonna be a problem Why? The chakram's are identical in effect, i don't see what problems it causes. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On September 26 2014 15:51 Kuroeeah wrote: Honestly i was really quick to hating the change but I realized that before it was almost fucking impossible to overcome a 10k gold lead. Now games, literally are roller coasters where a 10k gold lead is equivalent to what a 3-5k gold lead was in the past and I'm not even joking when I say this. I might eat my words, these changes might be retarded but I'm starting to like it still need more time to actually see how the game evolves but so far yes it looks like icefrog is heavily using the stats from their database to do the balance, in which i guess he can now cover the balance of the game in more aspects overall (at this stage i think it is pretty apparent that he has a small balance team now, some changes were not quite icefrog-ish). This exp/gold change is gigantic; back then (since this year), every team fight would net the team about 5k exp/2.5k gold lead (in which i suspected that icefrog designated that way from using their stats data) but now ya roller coaster all the way rofl. This change is more interesting when adapts to different drafts/heroes too because the 'economical timings' of heroes/line up are more critical ever than before. and don't worry 6.82a to 6.82d will be pushed out soon to iron out the ridicules, as usual. | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
One fight we lost 2.5k xp advantage to 7.5k xp disadvantage. Crawl our advantage to 6.5k then bam! => 4k disadvantage. I don't know what the gold difference is but their lion has aghs in 25 minutes with no farm and negative kda. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/biwyZKa.png) | ||
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r_con
United States824 Posts
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Gheizen64
Italy2077 Posts
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
On September 26 2014 17:48 Unleashing wrote: Why? The chakram's are identical in effect, i don't see what problems it causes. I am sorta imagining the plays you could potentially do with 2 chakrams- that entails having to know exactly which button to click to pull back which chakram. In other news Elder Titan is Aghs Ulti is really good against teams with 2-3 sources of right click dps, assuming you can land the ult. I'm still undecided as to whether it's worth the money, since that's a huge assumption. ET ult hardest spell to land in gaem. | ||
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SilverSkyLark
Philippines8437 Posts
Hello guys, I just tried out the new 6.82 patch on a practice lobby and I noticed some "glaring" asymmetry of the dire offlane and the radiant offlane. I know that Dota 2's map isn't perfectly symmetrical. Here's what I noticed: Warding There's a ward spot near the Dire Offlane Tier 1 Tower - this doesn't exist in the Radiant Tier 1 in the Offlane. There is elevated ground north west the secret shop but it seems to be bugged, placing a ward there makes the ward appear "buried" and isn't given elevated vision. I tried placing a lot of wards there but it gave the same negative result. This makes the Dire offlane tougher to play since the Radiant can see the rotation or if anyone tps to the tower and react properly. Trees During night time, the Dire's Offlane Tier 1 Tower can't see beyond the trees to its West and the Radiant can actually sneak in the tree line and plant a ward in the ward spot there, then help gank. If I'm not mistaken, even during daytime, the Tier 1 Tower at the Dire Offlane can't see over the tree line, making ganks from the river to the secret shop then to the tree path behind the dire tier 1 really irritating to deal with. Also, note that there are 3 paths from the roshan side to the offlane side. This predicament doesn't happen for the radiant offlane. The Tier 1 can see you as you make your way from the lane to the secret shop, and the ganking path from the radiant secret shop is only 2 and they are both relatively far, compared to 3 of the dire offlane. Ganking the Radiant Offlane will be tough since it's a 50-50 call if you want to go via the north path (leading to the t1 tower) or the south path (leads to the path between the 2 towers). I want to know what you guys think about how the offlanes will be played. As someone who plays support, it's difficult to decide where to place the ward when I'm on the dire side. Placing it at the river east of the rosh pit is viable since it gives you vision of anyone coming in from the radiant jungle to your secret shop to gank. However, if that gets dewarded, it's difficult to stop ganks (esp if the other ward was placed elsewhere). Placing the ward in the spot south east of the bottom rune spot (the one to the east of the medium camp there), gives vision if there are gankers behind the treeline (note how the tree line has good gank angles) but it doesn't show if there's a gank coming from the river to the secret shop. Placing the ward near the tier 1 tower isn't good at all since it may be too late if you see a gank coming from there and you're too far away from tower safety. So, what do you guys think? How will the offlanes be played, how will the warding change for the dire offlane, and how will teams gank the offlanes? Discuss. | ||
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Fwizzz
Philippines4420 Posts
I like the changes in the new bounty. Games are more even. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
Sure it's a pub but...well. I remember watching many Dendi games pre-TI4 where Dagon was one of his last pickups. Hero still has so much utility. http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/921125820 | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On September 26 2014 19:06 Laserist wrote: Problem is the delicious ancient gold. March can't pierce bkb now, right? It's a problem. The hero has certainly been nerfed but unless aggressively shut down it was a fucking god before. The idea that it's been nerfed into unplayability lacks imagination. | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10702 Posts
On September 26 2014 18:36 xAdra wrote: I am sorta imagining the plays you could potentially do with 2 chakrams- that entails having to know exactly which button to click to pull back which chakram. Uhm... If you don't know yourself which Chakram you but where whiteout having an indicator, you probably won't be able to do any ofthese Plays anyway. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On September 26 2014 12:19 Fleetfeet wrote: Interesting bug. Just played a game against a Naga and a Phantom Lancer. At about 50 minutes they... ran out of illusions. Naga's mirror image started spawning only one illusion, and PL's... whatever the fuck he was doing... started producing only 1 or 2 illusions instead of 6+ of him running around. About two minutes later, Naga's manta/mirror image just straight stopped producing illusions. This obviously didn't help them very much. That happened to me right before the patch hit actually so I don't think its 6.82 specific. My last game right before it hit: http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/dota-2-general/454149-dota-2-qq-thread?page=1178#23544 Wow. Just wow. Lost a game because it bugged out and nobody could buy items, plus PL's skills had bugged out meaning he was stuck on 7k gold with no way to spend it and he wasn't spontaneously generating illusions. GREAT WORK VALVE. THANKS FOR THAT. I know it was before because I remember being really annoyed at having to update right afterwards and not being able to recover with a win. | ||
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