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PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 03:50:52
February 04 2012 03:50 GMT
#1901
I was under the impression it was impossible to lose as Antimage.... I was just proven wrong! A team full of complete morons will still ruin the game!

3 match losing streak sucks balls.
Jieun <3
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
February 04 2012 04:22 GMT
#1902
On February 04 2012 03:18 DoNotDisturb wrote:
(dignitas vs Na`Vi)

Dendi PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDGE

worth saving my 1k post for :>

Got a link for the game? Is it on Tobi's channel or somewhere else?
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
February 04 2012 04:28 GMT
#1903
On February 04 2012 13:22 Dubzex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 03:18 DoNotDisturb wrote:
(dignitas vs Na`Vi)

Dendi PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDGE

worth saving my 1k post for :>

Got a link for the game? Is it on Tobi's channel or somewhere else?


http://www.joindota.com/en/vods/753-navi-vs-dignitas-the-defense

If you prefer you can also watch it on JoinDota's youtube channel.
Jieun <3
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
February 04 2012 12:28 GMT
#1904
minimap awareness, unit control, hotkey usage, etc; all the mechanics transfer over, you just have to learn items/heroes and stuff

obviously it still takes some work, but simply having good mechanics is going to put you far above average in terms of skill level
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34510 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-04 17:19:56
February 04 2012 17:08 GMT
#1905
Is Dota2 still up atm? It opens up but then doesn't let me open any of the tabs at the top (today, updates, play etc).

edit: nvm steam restart fixed this.
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GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
February 05 2012 02:36 GMT
#1906
On February 04 2012 03:18 DoNotDisturb wrote:
(dignitas vs Na`Vi)

Dendi PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDGE

worth saving my 1k post for :>


That was such an epic moment
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
February 05 2012 03:08 GMT
#1907
On February 05 2012 11:36 GeneralStan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 03:18 DoNotDisturb wrote:
(dignitas vs Na`Vi)

Dendi PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDGE

worth saving my 1k post for :>


That was such an epic moment


Dendi too good
High Risk Low Reward
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
February 05 2012 12:01 GMT
#1908
ok i think i want to know this: how many times out of all of your loses have you blame yourself? Like you understand the lose was your own fault, not your team not enemy team but YOU! Give me the %
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Dudemeister
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden314 Posts
February 05 2012 12:03 GMT
#1909
like 20% maybe, but I'm quite self critical :D
Dudemeister
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden314 Posts
February 05 2012 12:03 GMT
#1910
its very different to starcraft though... i sc you can point to that one massive blunder that cost you the game. in dota, not so much
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
February 05 2012 12:17 GMT
#1911
On February 05 2012 21:03 Dudemeister wrote:
its very different to starcraft though... i sc you can point to that one massive blunder that cost you the game. in dota, not so much

In starcraft you can lose the game because of one big mistake, in dota it never happens(must be a series of mistakes).

Also we must realize that apart from some epic missmicroes or missclicks, it's mostly miscommunication that causes loses. Someone might dive into tower thinking he has support of his team only to realize they all went back or just stood there, often saying you are noob. Ofc I sometimes fail few times in a row and lose games, happens to the best, but it's not more than 5% of games(mostly first and last game in the day).
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 13:39:24
February 05 2012 13:36 GMT
#1912
On February 04 2012 12:48 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 08:14 Dead9 wrote:
it's actually very easy to be decent at dota if you're good at starcraft
getting amazing takes a bit more practice but a lot of the skills are readily transferable

Kind of disagree. The tech skill is very easy unless you play Chen or something and time stuns, though even that's not all that difficult. However, Dota's much more based around knowledge than technical skill. Also lasthitting is a totally new thing that SC players won't have any inherent advantage at, and the kiting or whatever is much slower-paced.

I really don't even know which skills translate over... watching minimap and mouse and keyboard control and accuracy? I think it's mostly about being good at playing games or at learning games, not SC2 in specific.

Why did I typo shen as chen

Since Dota is a wc3 pp and the engine is more or less the same, the like of grubby/naniwa would be pretty good in dota if they take the time to learn all the small but very important details. But that's a pointless post. (mine)

Since I play a carry everytime I play lol/dota, I blame myself 80% of the time :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
February 05 2012 13:46 GMT
#1913
best phrase ever is sniper's "you got peeped"
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 14:01:51
February 05 2012 13:59 GMT
#1914
The best phrase ever is actually Lions respawn "Iv been to hell and back, and back to hell, and back!"
The first time it played that me and my roommate almost fell out of our chairs laughing lol
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 14:09:23
February 05 2012 14:09 GMT
#1915
On February 05 2012 22:36 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2012 12:48 Shikyo wrote:
On February 04 2012 08:14 Dead9 wrote:
it's actually very easy to be decent at dota if you're good at starcraft
getting amazing takes a bit more practice but a lot of the skills are readily transferable

Kind of disagree. The tech skill is very easy unless you play Chen or something and time stuns, though even that's not all that difficult. However, Dota's much more based around knowledge than technical skill. Also lasthitting is a totally new thing that SC players won't have any inherent advantage at, and the kiting or whatever is much slower-paced.

I really don't even know which skills translate over... watching minimap and mouse and keyboard control and accuracy? I think it's mostly about being good at playing games or at learning games, not SC2 in specific.

Why did I typo shen as chen

Since Dota is a wc3 pp and the engine is more or less the same, the like of grubby/naniwa would be pretty good in dota if they take the time to learn all the small but very important details. But that's a pointless post. (mine)

Since I play a carry everytime I play lol/dota, I blame myself 80% of the time :D

see, i read this post and jumped on EU sever... first pick AM, their team already picked 4/5 and my team picked this

[image loading]

notice the score at the time....

im right now at 25 mins and its 32-6 :-/ myself 0-0-1 =/
like 4 people died 32 times in 25 mins?

edit: 35 now
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
February 05 2012 14:12 GMT
#1916
On February 05 2012 23:09 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 22:36 Erasme wrote:
On February 04 2012 12:48 Shikyo wrote:
On February 04 2012 08:14 Dead9 wrote:
it's actually very easy to be decent at dota if you're good at starcraft
getting amazing takes a bit more practice but a lot of the skills are readily transferable

Kind of disagree. The tech skill is very easy unless you play Chen or something and time stuns, though even that's not all that difficult. However, Dota's much more based around knowledge than technical skill. Also lasthitting is a totally new thing that SC players won't have any inherent advantage at, and the kiting or whatever is much slower-paced.

I really don't even know which skills translate over... watching minimap and mouse and keyboard control and accuracy? I think it's mostly about being good at playing games or at learning games, not SC2 in specific.

Why did I typo shen as chen

Since Dota is a wc3 pp and the engine is more or less the same, the like of grubby/naniwa would be pretty good in dota if they take the time to learn all the small but very important details. But that's a pointless post. (mine)

Since I play a carry everytime I play lol/dota, I blame myself 80% of the time :D

see, i read this post and jumped on EU sever... first pick AM, their team already picked 4/5 and my team picked this

[image loading]

notice the score at the time....

im right now at 25 mins and its 32-6 :-/ myself 0-0-1 =/
like 4 people died 32 times in 25 mins?

edit: 35 now


you have blink, they don't
ffxiv enjoyer
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
February 05 2012 14:13 GMT
#1917
On February 05 2012 23:12 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 23:09 NB wrote:
On February 05 2012 22:36 Erasme wrote:
On February 04 2012 12:48 Shikyo wrote:
On February 04 2012 08:14 Dead9 wrote:
it's actually very easy to be decent at dota if you're good at starcraft
getting amazing takes a bit more practice but a lot of the skills are readily transferable

Kind of disagree. The tech skill is very easy unless you play Chen or something and time stuns, though even that's not all that difficult. However, Dota's much more based around knowledge than technical skill. Also lasthitting is a totally new thing that SC players won't have any inherent advantage at, and the kiting or whatever is much slower-paced.

I really don't even know which skills translate over... watching minimap and mouse and keyboard control and accuracy? I think it's mostly about being good at playing games or at learning games, not SC2 in specific.

Why did I typo shen as chen

Since Dota is a wc3 pp and the engine is more or less the same, the like of grubby/naniwa would be pretty good in dota if they take the time to learn all the small but very important details. But that's a pointless post. (mine)

Since I play a carry everytime I play lol/dota, I blame myself 80% of the time :D

see, i read this post and jumped on EU sever... first pick AM, their team already picked 4/5 and my team picked this

[image loading]

notice the score at the time....

im right now at 25 mins and its 32-6 :-/ myself 0-0-1 =/
like 4 people died 32 times in 25 mins?

edit: 35 now


you have blink, they don't

but i mean should i blame myself bc i didnt pick the correct carry?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
February 05 2012 14:35 GMT
#1918
On February 05 2012 23:13 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 23:12 DoNotDisturb wrote:
On February 05 2012 23:09 NB wrote:
On February 05 2012 22:36 Erasme wrote:
On February 04 2012 12:48 Shikyo wrote:
On February 04 2012 08:14 Dead9 wrote:
it's actually very easy to be decent at dota if you're good at starcraft
getting amazing takes a bit more practice but a lot of the skills are readily transferable

Kind of disagree. The tech skill is very easy unless you play Chen or something and time stuns, though even that's not all that difficult. However, Dota's much more based around knowledge than technical skill. Also lasthitting is a totally new thing that SC players won't have any inherent advantage at, and the kiting or whatever is much slower-paced.

I really don't even know which skills translate over... watching minimap and mouse and keyboard control and accuracy? I think it's mostly about being good at playing games or at learning games, not SC2 in specific.

Why did I typo shen as chen

Since Dota is a wc3 pp and the engine is more or less the same, the like of grubby/naniwa would be pretty good in dota if they take the time to learn all the small but very important details. But that's a pointless post. (mine)

Since I play a carry everytime I play lol/dota, I blame myself 80% of the time :D

see, i read this post and jumped on EU sever... first pick AM, their team already picked 4/5 and my team picked this

[image loading]

notice the score at the time....

im right now at 25 mins and its 32-6 :-/ myself 0-0-1 =/
like 4 people died 32 times in 25 mins?

edit: 35 now


you have blink, they don't

but i mean should i blame myself bc i didnt pick the correct carry?


Shouldn't really blame anyone? It's 16-0 12mins in, your heroes really weren't that awful, without looking at the game, it seems obvious the other team just heavily outplayed yout team. Switching a couple of heroes would likely not have made a diference. Maybe they were a group of 5 that is new to the MM so they are still at the wrong MMR, maybe your team had a few drunk friends that just got back from a party and are playing like shit, maybe the matchmaking just screwed up completelly, people shouldn't be blame just for being worse than the other team. Extreme cases are the worst examples you could come up with, if one person can be blamed, the game should be close enough that replacing said person made a diference. If he wasn't responsible for like 12 of those kills, this was not the case. Some games you just lose and move on, there is nothing you could have done wether it's your fault as well or not.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
February 05 2012 14:46 GMT
#1919
On February 05 2012 23:09 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 22:36 Erasme wrote:
On February 04 2012 12:48 Shikyo wrote:
On February 04 2012 08:14 Dead9 wrote:
it's actually very easy to be decent at dota if you're good at starcraft
getting amazing takes a bit more practice but a lot of the skills are readily transferable

Kind of disagree. The tech skill is very easy unless you play Chen or something and time stuns, though even that's not all that difficult. However, Dota's much more based around knowledge than technical skill. Also lasthitting is a totally new thing that SC players won't have any inherent advantage at, and the kiting or whatever is much slower-paced.

I really don't even know which skills translate over... watching minimap and mouse and keyboard control and accuracy? I think it's mostly about being good at playing games or at learning games, not SC2 in specific.

Why did I typo shen as chen

Since Dota is a wc3 pp and the engine is more or less the same, the like of grubby/naniwa would be pretty good in dota if they take the time to learn all the small but very important details. But that's a pointless post. (mine)

Since I play a carry everytime I play lol/dota, I blame myself 80% of the time :D

see, i read this post and jumped on EU sever... first pick AM, their team already picked 4/5 and my team picked this

[image loading]

notice the score at the time....

im right now at 25 mins and its 32-6 :-/ myself 0-0-1 =/
like 4 people died 32 times in 25 mins?

edit: 35 now

0 points in spell shield?
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TheTester
Profile Joined March 2010
United States172 Posts
February 05 2012 15:13 GMT
#1920
On February 05 2012 23:46 Alur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2012 23:09 NB wrote:
On February 05 2012 22:36 Erasme wrote:
On February 04 2012 12:48 Shikyo wrote:
On February 04 2012 08:14 Dead9 wrote:
it's actually very easy to be decent at dota if you're good at starcraft
getting amazing takes a bit more practice but a lot of the skills are readily transferable

Kind of disagree. The tech skill is very easy unless you play Chen or something and time stuns, though even that's not all that difficult. However, Dota's much more based around knowledge than technical skill. Also lasthitting is a totally new thing that SC players won't have any inherent advantage at, and the kiting or whatever is much slower-paced.

I really don't even know which skills translate over... watching minimap and mouse and keyboard control and accuracy? I think it's mostly about being good at playing games or at learning games, not SC2 in specific.

Why did I typo shen as chen

Since Dota is a wc3 pp and the engine is more or less the same, the like of grubby/naniwa would be pretty good in dota if they take the time to learn all the small but very important details. But that's a pointless post. (mine)

Since I play a carry everytime I play lol/dota, I blame myself 80% of the time :D

see, i read this post and jumped on EU sever... first pick AM, their team already picked 4/5 and my team picked this

[image loading]

notice the score at the time....

im right now at 25 mins and its 32-6 :-/ myself 0-0-1 =/
like 4 people died 32 times in 25 mins?

edit: 35 now

0 points in spell shield?


Viable build if you get a freefarm lane, no point leaving it until lvl 10+, which was probably not the case here though...
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