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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 05 2012 15:23 GMT
#1921
If he got a freefarm lane, he should have higher cs than 38 in 12 minutes. Especially if he started with QB instead of Stout like it looks like he did. 38 in 12 is pretty poor even if he got a somewhat decent lane.

NB, can you honestly say that you took every opportunity that you could that game? That you didn't miss a solo kill opportunity? That you couldn't have tp-counterkilled even 1 of the 16 deaths on your team?
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
February 05 2012 16:37 GMT
#1922
nah, its all good, i never been the type who rage at my team, in fact if you dont count all the trolls games i played, im pretty confident that i have never rage at my team ... that game went really silently bc we all know we got outplayed. I just use it to demonstrate what Erasme talked about earlier on how he always pick carry.

another thing: is it just me or EU sever skill level is much better than US? when i play on EU i often get people who actually know what they are doing rather than US who know nothing and rage at team by swearing by mic and stuff =_=
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Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 17:01:45
February 05 2012 17:01 GMT
#1923
On February 06 2012 01:37 NB wrote:
another thing: is it just me or EU sever skill level is much better than US? when i play on EU i often get people who actually know what they are doing rather than US who know nothing and rage at team by swearing by mic and stuff =_=

To my understanding EU have higher skill levels in all games than US. A reason could be that since a majority of Europe do not have English as their mother tongue immature kids will be less common there than in the US.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 05 2012 17:01 GMT
#1924
EU has russians tho.
WriterXiao8~~
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 05 2012 17:04 GMT
#1925
On February 06 2012 02:01 Kipsate wrote:
EU has russians tho.

russians best. Every time one's been in my team they always spam stuff in russian while feeding and spamming ping
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
February 05 2012 17:45 GMT
#1926
I can't stand people who type in their incomprhensible language even when you say 'english please'. But Russians have shitty internet so they're the worst :p
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
February 05 2012 18:15 GMT
#1927
im pretty sure the find match system works like this:
1/find 10 people similar mmr
2/using their IP -> calculate avg location to host game on sever
3/host game on the sever closest to all

this explains why sometime my game stuck at finding sever after look up 10 people
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red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
February 05 2012 18:29 GMT
#1928
On February 06 2012 02:01 Klockan3 wrote:
To my understanding EU have higher skill levels in all games than US. A reason could be that since a majority of Europe do not have English as their mother tongue immature kids will be less common there than in the US.


Americans are competitive at the highest levels of FPS games and we seem to be OK at SC. Why we are lagging in DotA is not something I personally know.

As our internet connections between east and west coast have improved so too, it seems, has our ability to compete on the world stage. To be good, you must have good competition to practice against and that always seemed to be the limiting factor for us. Europe is MUCH more population dense than the US which is a few centers of high density surrounded by vast expanses of basically no one + our internet infrastructure has historically had as little investment as possible by the telecoms (you know, cuz it might eat into profits or something).

Will America ever have as strong a scene as Europe? Well, I dont know. I hope so, because DotA 2 is my only hope for a competitive game right now as the FPS games out now make me sad.
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 05 2012 19:27 GMT
#1929
Dark seer needs a nerf.

Its the only hero which I find OP atm, except maybe Invoker.
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TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 19:29:14
February 05 2012 19:28 GMT
#1930
On February 06 2012 03:29 red_b wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 02:01 Klockan3 wrote:
To my understanding EU have higher skill levels in all games than US. A reason could be that since a majority of Europe do not have English as their mother tongue immature kids will be less common there than in the US.


Americans are competitive at the highest levels of FPS games and we seem to be OK at SC. Why we are lagging in DotA is not something I personally know.

As our internet connections between east and west coast have improved so too, it seems, has our ability to compete on the world stage. To be good, you must have good competition to practice against and that always seemed to be the limiting factor for us. Europe is MUCH more population dense than the US which is a few centers of high density surrounded by vast expanses of basically no one + our internet infrastructure has historically had as little investment as possible by the telecoms (you know, cuz it might eat into profits or something).

Will America ever have as strong a scene as Europe? Well, I dont know. I hope so, because DotA 2 is my only hope for a competitive game right now as the FPS games out now make me sad.


The American Dota community is the worst. It is the absolute worst. Not in terms of skill but attitude, flame etc.
if you can believe you can concieve
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
February 05 2012 19:38 GMT
#1931
On February 06 2012 04:28 TheWarbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2012 03:29 red_b wrote:
On February 06 2012 02:01 Klockan3 wrote:
To my understanding EU have higher skill levels in all games than US. A reason could be that since a majority of Europe do not have English as their mother tongue immature kids will be less common there than in the US.


Americans are competitive at the highest levels of FPS games and we seem to be OK at SC. Why we are lagging in DotA is not something I personally know.

As our internet connections between east and west coast have improved so too, it seems, has our ability to compete on the world stage. To be good, you must have good competition to practice against and that always seemed to be the limiting factor for us. Europe is MUCH more population dense than the US which is a few centers of high density surrounded by vast expanses of basically no one + our internet infrastructure has historically had as little investment as possible by the telecoms (you know, cuz it might eat into profits or something).

Will America ever have as strong a scene as Europe? Well, I dont know. I hope so, because DotA 2 is my only hope for a competitive game right now as the FPS games out now make me sad.


The American Dota community is the worst. It is the absolute worst. Not in terms of skill but attitude, flame etc.

While i'm not defending the american dota community, I have to say we are second behind Russia.
That being said, the russians i've played with are rather hilarious.
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ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
February 05 2012 19:53 GMT
#1932
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Looks pretty stompy, but it was actually a comeback from my team. Enemy team tried to push through ~5 powershots and dual breaths and got wiped, then they never recovered.

And I love playing Windrunner, such a great hero. :D
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-05 19:59:12
February 05 2012 19:58 GMT
#1933
Man sometimes this game can be so depressing. Played a game last night where in the early game we lost all of our lanes, went down by about 15 kills, and lost basically all of our towers. Through a lot of ganks and good odd man fights we clawed our way back into the game, eventually even taking the lead. We ended up killing mid rax and the tier 4 towers, but our whole team except for me got wiped because they wouldn't back off instead trying to kill the throne when their whole team respawned, and we were all at 1/4 hp. We got all raxed because of this, they had mega creeps, but we wiped their team 5-0, having a 80 second window to backdoor the throne. I asked one person to stay behind and defend while we throned them, but our team yelled NO RIKI YOU STAY AND DEFEND and all left(even tho i was the best candidate for backdooring), and instead of just running to the throne fought every single wave of creeps in the mid lane until the other team respawned and finished the game Also my teammates continually buy gems when im Riki(because sniper has Lothar's) even tho we have Slardar....

[image loading]

Game made me so sad

Edit: Also blademail hurts like a fucking bitch.
Jieun <3
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
February 05 2012 21:42 GMT
#1934
On February 06 2012 04:27 Kipsate wrote:
Dark seer needs a nerf.

Its the only hero which I find OP atm, except maybe Invoker.


he really is!
if you can believe you can concieve
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
February 05 2012 21:48 GMT
#1935
On the other hand, he can produce some hilarious moments with how Vacuum works.

KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
February 05 2012 22:32 GMT
#1936
On February 06 2012 06:48 Resilient wrote:
On the other hand, he can produce some hilarious moments with how Vacuum works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcQa51Mjmic


Hahaha tht dark seer is one smartass
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
February 05 2012 22:54 GMT
#1937
On February 06 2012 06:48 Resilient wrote:
On the other hand, he can produce some hilarious moments with how Vacuum works.

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcQa51Mjmic

hahaha that is hilarious. At the end you can barely see the dk type "im not even mad" lol.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
HypernovA
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada556 Posts
February 05 2012 22:56 GMT
#1938
How is Dark Seer op? Stun or silence him and he is toast.
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
February 05 2012 23:30 GMT
#1939
[image loading]

This was a hilarious game last night. I was lich mid for some reason. It was definitely a low skill game. Very very low skill. Anyway, after about an hour I discovered lich cannot carry vs invoker. Sad days.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
February 05 2012 23:44 GMT
#1940
On February 06 2012 08:30 Hoban wrote:
[image loading]

This was a hilarious game last night. I was lich mid for some reason. It was definitely a low skill game. Very very low skill. Anyway, after about an hour I discovered lich cannot carry vs invoker. Sad days.

I love how WR, AM and Morph can't really decide which items to go for, so they're just kind of all over the place.
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