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Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
February 06 2012 07:26 GMT
#1961
Ok after giving it a shot, here is my impression. Force staff is an amazing item. I would say it saved my life in almost every single team fight. As far as force staffing them, I still need a little practice but it is definitely the way to do it. See their back turn and you just threw an impetus? There goes 1/2 their hp. Now I am not sure if my computer was having some keystroke-registering problems but whenever I double-tap a key, there is about a 40% chance it wont self cast. I don't have the fastest fingers in the world but I imagine they are more than capable of double-clicking my '1' key quickly. I found it easier to just click once and then click myself. Anyway, I did find it useful to forcestaff myself in team fights. Generally I can engage well (I.e. don't get hit with the first big ulties/stuns) but after I get a handful of impetus off people start to target me. That is the perfect time to save the staff for. You throw that one last spear at the disabler and forcestaff away and take out 1/3-1/2 their hp. Feels pretty awesome and it gets you repositioned on the edge of the fight where you should be.

In conclusion, I think enchantress is my new favorite hero until Lanaya comes out. Oh yea, and force staff is one of the best items ever.
"I am a leaf on the wind."
lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
February 06 2012 11:28 GMT
#1962
Love enchantress, maybe even as much as dark seer - one thing to remember, she has a damage cap of 400 on impetus, unless that's not been ported over. So getting a 900 damage shot is implausible :p

I find that she farms far harder in the jungle than in a lane, she's actually quite a passive laner, whereas in the jungleshe can have more creeps than Chen from level 1, and destroy lanes, or speedfarm the neutrals. Also tend to go fast agha o her, because the range bonus is awesome.
For every battle honour a thousand heroes die alone, unsung, and unremembered.
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
February 06 2012 11:54 GMT
#1963
I'm pretty sure the distance does not increase the damage once you hit 2500 distance. That makes the damage cap 625 (at level 3 ofc), not 400.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
February 06 2012 12:03 GMT
#1964
I'm pretty bad with my unit control at the moment so I find ganking with her and utilizing creeps effectively is kind of tough. Maybe I am just not jungling her right but I feel that I level so slowly and get shitty farm. In lane she is awesome, her Q allows you to take creep aggro all day and take little damage, her E lets you be fucking balls-out crazy, and her W is an amazing slow. I am always very aggressive with her when it isn't a super bursty lane.

Know of any jungling video guides for enchantress?
"I am a leaf on the wind."
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
February 06 2012 13:31 GMT
#1965
Remembers me where you could tp a ench back to base with chen and one hit the enemy, when impetus wasnt her ulti, so you could do it at lvl 1
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
February 06 2012 13:36 GMT
#1966
Who the hell picks Pudge against freaking Naix+Necrolyte? In what universe is that supposed to work? That's a hard-counter if I ever saw one...

Windrunner, Riki, Pudge, Faceless Void and Broodmother vs Mirana, Naix, Necrolyte, Skeleton King and Lich - yeah, that game was over after the picks were done. >_>
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-06 13:45:26
February 06 2012 13:39 GMT
#1967
On February 06 2012 20:54 LAN-f34r wrote:
I'm pretty sure the distance does not increase the damage once you hit 2500 distance. That makes the damage cap 625 (at level 3 ofc), not 400.


you're right - it used to be a flat 400 damage cap, I'm sure, but it's 2500 distance now. My bad, old mech memory fails me *sadface*

edit: god, it hasn't been that way since at LEAST 6.55, that's like... 2008? Mechfag fail.
For every battle honour a thousand heroes die alone, unsung, and unremembered.
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
February 06 2012 22:40 GMT
#1968
Batrider. How to build him? In pubs, I mean.
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
February 06 2012 22:45 GMT
#1969
On February 06 2012 22:36 ChrisXIV wrote:
Who the hell picks Pudge against freaking Naix+Necrolyte? In what universe is that supposed to work? That's a hard-counter if I ever saw one...

Windrunner, Riki, Pudge, Faceless Void and Broodmother vs Mirana, Naix, Necrolyte, Skeleton King and Lich - yeah, that game was over after the picks were done. >_>

Not as bad as necro vs huskar...
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Microchaton
Profile Joined March 2011
France342 Posts
February 06 2012 22:45 GMT
#1970
Not sure if it belongs here or in a new thread, but CLG (the most proeminent LoL team) has taken Loda Miracle & others for their DotA2 team : http://clgaming.net/board/board25-announcements/board26-community-news/5489-clg-expands-to-dota-2-welcome-our-new-team/
Stormy
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 06 2012 22:51 GMT
#1971
CLG Loda huh

meh xP had a nicer ring to it but ill take it, good luck to them.
WriterXiao8~~
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
February 06 2012 23:00 GMT
#1972
Who is the hottest hero in Dota 2? A champion that will turn me on every time I play this champion, so that I can play better?
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
February 06 2012 23:02 GMT
#1973
On February 07 2012 08:00 0123456789 wrote:
Who is the hottest hero in Dota 2? A champion that will turn me on every time I play this champion, so that I can play better?


Invoker
Jieun <3
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
February 06 2012 23:14 GMT
#1974
definitely naix.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
February 06 2012 23:17 GMT
#1975
On February 07 2012 08:00 0123456789 wrote:
Who is the hottest hero in Dota 2? A champion that will turn me on every time I play this champion, so that I can play better?


Morphling can be anything you want it to be :p
High Risk Low Reward
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
February 07 2012 00:20 GMT
#1976
But if you mean most attractive model/face it's probably windrunner.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 07 2012 00:36 GMT
#1977
On February 07 2012 08:00 0123456789 wrote:
Who is the hottest hero in Dota 2? A champion that will turn me on every time I play this champion, so that I can play better?

Phantom Assassin
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
February 07 2012 00:48 GMT
#1978
On February 07 2012 09:36 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 08:00 0123456789 wrote:
Who is the hottest hero in Dota 2? A champion that will turn me on every time I play this champion, so that I can play better?

Phantom Assassin

PA is not even added yet. Well its in the game just not released.
if you can believe you can concieve
Hnnngg
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1101 Posts
February 07 2012 00:49 GMT
#1979
On February 07 2012 08:17 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2012 08:00 0123456789 wrote:
Who is the hottest hero in Dota 2? A champion that will turn me on every time I play this champion, so that I can play better?


Morphling can be anything you want it to be :p


I think you mean Puck.
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
February 07 2012 00:59 GMT
#1980
On February 07 2012 07:40 Nevuk wrote:
Batrider. How to build him? In pubs, I mean.




hmmmmm

It depends a LOT. He's a great pubstomper. You can use him in pretty much every single lane. But I recomend it solo mid/long lane. Batrider is not a great carrier, he can kill a lot in early/mid game and disable an important hero late game.

Start out with the usual stout shield/regens if the lane is going to be hard (against double lane) or regens + stats itens if you are going against a solo hero.

your goal inlane is to be the most annoying little fucker EVER. image how annoying a huskar is in lane, ok.. you need to be 10x more annoying. Get napal level 1 and use it EVERY SINGLE TIME. its really annoying and if the your enemy advances a little bit you just uses your firefly and kill him.

You will probably get 1/2 kills in your lane before level 7. If you reach level 7 without anykills, things are going wrong for you already.

Ok, when you get 7 you should have bots + ring of aquila/botle + stout shield + ring. Go gank like a mad man. you can dive towers like no other hero, you can kill 2/3 heroes with just one ally disable. go for it, call your team to help you out on the ganks, take map control, rune control, farm heroes like a balanar.

Your goal is to get dagger + vanguard + whatever bots you want before the 22 minute mark. You can go for dagger before vanguard if your team is killing a lot.

Ok, so mid game is stop farming pretty much, just gank around with smokes and support heroes, and let your carry farm, remember, you are not a carry hero, you do not need farm.

Try getting pipe/forcestaff in the mid game, it helps a lot in big fights and ganks. Go to their jungle and try to kill their carry hero as much as possible. Remember to always use your ultimate on their key heroes (enigma, sandking, big aoe ult heroes or big/fat carriers)

As for the late game, you goal is pretty much the same, slow all their heroes with napal, disable with flamebreaker, ut their key hero and uses firefly to do huge aoe dmg.

A ideal full build batrider would be

Travel
Tarrasque
forcestaff
dagger
shivas
radiance/pipe



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