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On February 07 2012 20:51 lozarian wrote:
To play bat you need to to have a very specific mentality, it's the "fuck y'all, I am scarier than anything on this map" mentality. From level 2. You go mid, get 2-3 stacks of napalm on the enemy hero, then when they're facing you, firefly then run at them and go balls out. You start killin shit, and don't stop until they beg you to have mercy, and even then it's only to stop and laugh over their burnt, crispy corpses.
If it's level 4, you're batrider, and someone isnt dead yet, you're doing it wrong. Obviously this is easier with someone ganking your lane, but you don't need it, because waiting for help is for pussies, and you're not a pussy, you're a fucking explosive hellfire bat of death. Once you have first blood you have boots. You pop a potion, wait for the fool to come back to the lane, and you do it again. Then you kill his friends, family, and if he has any pets, you kill them too.
basically i agree.
i love playing bat because you can be sooo overaggressive early on.
but this is out of the window if youre playing against a lane that knows what theyre doing and retreat when they get 2-3 stacks.
on the other hand this means theyre not getting any farm.
the greatest thing about bat is the moment when you get to level 2 with 3-4 stacks on your enemy, skill firefly and watch them burn.
i dont think ive had as many first bloods with any other hero than bat.
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2 guys ask for wards > I place one at bottom river > clearly visible enemy omni s walking towards invis rune with gem in inventory > clinkz proceeds to walk into him, along with the entire enemy team.
fuck supporting while solo queuing -_-
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On February 07 2012 23:12 DoNotDisturb wrote:
2 guys ask for wards > I place one at bottom river > clearly visible enemy omni s walking towards invis rune with gem in inventory > clinkz proceeds to walk into him, along with the entire enemy team.
fuck supporting while solo queuing -_-
i only play support with at least 1 guy in my team tht i trust n is in the party, otherwise... ull need alot of good luck to manage pub games :p
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On February 07 2012 23:12 DoNotDisturb wrote:
2 guys ask for wards > I place one at bottom river > clearly visible enemy omni s walking towards invis rune with gem in inventory > clinkz proceeds to walk into him, along with the entire enemy team.
fuck supporting while solo queuing -_-
I always(read: the last ~6 games or so) play support Windrunner until one of the 4 carries fucks up. Can't lasthit to save his life? Feeds like a madman? Carry Windrunner here I come. Works surprisingly well in pubs.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
On February 07 2012 22:46 flamewheel wrote:
Anti-Mage plus Furion. Never lose. Ever.
Dark Seer -.-.
Also, Magic Stick/Wand is pretty usefull against bat if you ever lane against one.
Its not as bad as Bristleback though
poor boar.
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On February 07 2012 22:46 flamewheel wrote:
Anti-Mage plus Furion. Never lose. Ever.
Enigma, lich, sk. Pub stomp comp of the highest degree. Have the lich ward,smoke up while enigma and sk farm daggers. At around 15 minutes you start pushing with enigmas minions, trying to force a team fight. If you catch more than a couple heroes in a black hole, sk blinks in with his ulti and lich drops his in as well. Add windrunner for some good utility and a void or something for late game heroics. Very try-hard, but fun nonetheless, especially when with randoms and you can convince them to select said heroes.
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Or level 1 rosh with good pushers, and then win in 15. I've said it before, but lich fuion enigma can rosh at level 1 on their own, with basically 0 trouble. Give all the exp to lich or furion, and you either have a level 5 global ganker, or a chain frost when the other team are level 2, and probably a 3 minute mek on lich.
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On February 08 2012 00:37 lozarian wrote:
Or level 1 rosh with good pushers, and then win in 15. I've said it before, but lich fuion enigma can rosh at level 1 on their own, with basically 0 trouble. Give all the exp to lich or furion, and you either have a level 5 global ganker, or a chain frost when the other team are level 2, and probably a 3 minute mek on lich.
how do lich furion enigma tank? aren't those summons 1 hit at lvl 1? or do you kite... how does it work?
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AM Furion isn't as nuts as SB Furion lol, THAT shit is crazy, charged and tp'd on for days.
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On February 07 2012 20:51 lozarian wrote:
To play bat you need to to have a very specific mentality, it's the "fuck y'all, I am scarier than anything on this map" mentality. From level 2. You go mid, get 2-3 stacks of napalm on the enemy hero, then when they're facing you, firefly then run at them and go balls out. You start killin shit, and don't stop until they beg you to have mercy, and even then it's only to stop and laugh over their burnt, crispy corpses.
If it's level 4, you're batrider, and someone isnt dead yet, you're doing it wrong. Obviously this is easier with someone ganking your lane, but you don't need it, because waiting for help is for pussies, and you're not a pussy, you're a fucking explosive hellfire bat of death. Once you have first blood you have boots. You pop a potion, wait for the fool to come back to the lane, and you do it again. Then you kill his friends, family, and if he has any pets, you kill them too.
Rofl this is so true and so amazing. 5 stars if I could.
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FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
On February 08 2012 00:43 Bloodash wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 00:37 lozarian wrote:
Or level 1 rosh with good pushers, and then win in 15. I've said it before, but lich fuion enigma can rosh at level 1 on their own, with basically 0 trouble. Give all the exp to lich or furion, and you either have a level 5 global ganker, or a chain frost when the other team are level 2, and probably a 3 minute mek on lich. how do lich furion enigma tank? aren't those summons 1 hit at lvl 1? or do you kite... how does it work?
Treants with Frost Armour tank quite a few hits. This allows Eidelons to multiply. Work in a second set of trees and summons and you're golden. Just requires moving stuff out when at low HP.
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Thank you, thank you, I'm here all week.
As for the summons rosh strat: headdress, basilus, lich gets frost armour, furion gets trees, enigma eidos, obviously. Engima uses one tree to make eidos, furion makes trees from base and sends them to rosh straight away, frost on the surviving treant and use it to tank. Rosh attacks like once a year with frost armour debuff, you need maybe two sets of treants to kill him, eidolons do a ton of damage, even at level 1, there's 6 of them, with 20 damage each.
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On February 08 2012 01:08 lozarian wrote:
Thank you, thank you, I'm here all week.
As for the summons rosh strat: headdress, basilus, lich gets frost armour, furion gets trees, enigma eidos, obviously. Engima uses one tree to make eidos, furion makes trees from base and sends them to rosh straight away, frost on the surviving treant and use it to tank. Rosh attacks like once a year with frost armour debuff, you need maybe two sets of treants to kill him, eidolons do a ton of damage, even at level 1, there's 6 of them, with 20 damage each.
For extra fun I'd add a Tinker and give him all the exp and the Aegis. Think he's the best hero for that.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Lion is the most hilarious one.
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A carry lich would be far funnier tho
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you can lvl1 rosh with just ursa and skeleton king.
its super easy and basically wins you the game right there if you know what youre doing.
ive done it a few times with a buddy but people are starting to get aware of it and check rosh early if sk and ursa are picked.
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United States47024 Posts
On February 08 2012 03:15 paschl wrote:
you can lvl1 rosh with just ursa and skeleton king.
its super easy and basically wins you the game right there if you know what youre doing.
ive done it a few times with a buddy but people are starting to get aware of it and check rosh early if sk and ursa are picked.
You realize the discussion of Enigma/Furion/Lich level 1 Rosh started because people pointed out that doing it as SK/Ursa leaves you as sitting ducks if you get caught?
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Also because it's amazingly obvious.
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On February 08 2012 02:27 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 08 2012 01:08 lozarian wrote:
Thank you, thank you, I'm here all week.
As for the summons rosh strat: headdress, basilus, lich gets frost armour, furion gets trees, enigma eidos, obviously. Engima uses one tree to make eidos, furion makes trees from base and sends them to rosh straight away, frost on the surviving treant and use it to tank. Rosh attacks like once a year with frost armour debuff, you need maybe two sets of treants to kill him, eidolons do a ton of damage, even at level 1, there's 6 of them, with 20 damage each. For extra fun I'd add a Tinker and give him all the exp and the Aegis. Think he's the best hero for that.
O lawdy, lol. If tinker went bottle first, he could basically nuke mid out of the game right there, and get like a 4 minute BoT, and be pooping on lvl 3s in lane with 4/4 laser and rockets and BoT. Probably go ~20-0 by 20 minutes easy.
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Did I mention I love playing Windrunner?
Linken's is totally imba in pubs because no one wants to sacrifice a spell to break it, and even then there's still windrun to get away.
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