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paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
February 07 2012 14:02 GMT
#2001
On February 07 2012 20:51 lozarian wrote:
To play bat you need to to have a very specific mentality, it's the "fuck y'all, I am scarier than anything on this map" mentality. From level 2. You go mid, get 2-3 stacks of napalm on the enemy hero, then when they're facing you, firefly then run at them and go balls out. You start killin shit, and don't stop until they beg you to have mercy, and even then it's only to stop and laugh over their burnt, crispy corpses.

If it's level 4, you're batrider, and someone isnt dead yet, you're doing it wrong. Obviously this is easier with someone ganking your lane, but you don't need it, because waiting for help is for pussies, and you're not a pussy, you're a fucking explosive hellfire bat of death. Once you have first blood you have boots. You pop a potion, wait for the fool to come back to the lane, and you do it again. Then you kill his friends, family, and if he has any pets, you kill them too.


basically i agree.
i love playing bat because you can be sooo overaggressive early on.
but this is out of the window if youre playing against a lane that knows what theyre doing and retreat when they get 2-3 stacks.
on the other hand this means theyre not getting any farm.

the greatest thing about bat is the moment when you get to level 2 with 3-4 stacks on your enemy, skill firefly and watch them burn.
i dont think ive had as many first bloods with any other hero than bat.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 14:12:57
February 07 2012 14:12 GMT
#2002
2 guys ask for wards > I place one at bottom river > clearly visible enemy omni s walking towards invis rune with gem in inventory > clinkz proceeds to walk into him, along with the entire enemy team.

fuck supporting while solo queuing -_-
ffxiv enjoyer
KezseN
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Singapore1450 Posts
February 07 2012 14:14 GMT
#2003
On February 07 2012 23:12 DoNotDisturb wrote:
2 guys ask for wards > I place one at bottom river > clearly visible enemy omni s walking towards invis rune with gem in inventory > clinkz proceeds to walk into him, along with the entire enemy team.

fuck supporting while solo queuing -_-


i only play support with at least 1 guy in my team tht i trust n is in the party, otherwise... ull need alot of good luck to manage pub games :p
To Skeleton King: "Have you considered employment at Apple?"
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
February 07 2012 14:17 GMT
#2004
On February 07 2012 23:12 DoNotDisturb wrote:
2 guys ask for wards > I place one at bottom river > clearly visible enemy omni s walking towards invis rune with gem in inventory > clinkz proceeds to walk into him, along with the entire enemy team.

fuck supporting while solo queuing -_-


I always(read: the last ~6 games or so) play support Windrunner until one of the 4 carries fucks up. Can't lasthit to save his life? Feeds like a madman? Carry Windrunner here I come. Works surprisingly well in pubs.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-07 15:01:52
February 07 2012 14:47 GMT
#2005
On February 07 2012 22:46 flamewheel wrote:
Anti-Mage plus Furion. Never lose. Ever.

Dark Seer -.-.

Also, Magic Stick/Wand is pretty usefull against bat if you ever lane against one.

Its not as bad as Bristleback though

poor boar.
WriterXiao8~~
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
February 07 2012 15:32 GMT
#2006
On February 07 2012 22:46 flamewheel wrote:
Anti-Mage plus Furion. Never lose. Ever.

Enigma, lich, sk. Pub stomp comp of the highest degree. Have the lich ward,smoke up while enigma and sk farm daggers. At around 15 minutes you start pushing with enigmas minions, trying to force a team fight. If you catch more than a couple heroes in a black hole, sk blinks in with his ulti and lich drops his in as well. Add windrunner for some good utility and a void or something for late game heroics. Very try-hard, but fun nonetheless, especially when with randoms and you can convince them to select said heroes.
lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
February 07 2012 15:37 GMT
#2007
Or level 1 rosh with good pushers, and then win in 15. I've said it before, but lich fuion enigma can rosh at level 1 on their own, with basically 0 trouble. Give all the exp to lich or furion, and you either have a level 5 global ganker, or a chain frost when the other team are level 2, and probably a 3 minute mek on lich.
For every battle honour a thousand heroes die alone, unsung, and unremembered.
Bloodash
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands1384 Posts
February 07 2012 15:43 GMT
#2008
On February 08 2012 00:37 lozarian wrote:
Or level 1 rosh with good pushers, and then win in 15. I've said it before, but lich fuion enigma can rosh at level 1 on their own, with basically 0 trouble. Give all the exp to lich or furion, and you either have a level 5 global ganker, or a chain frost when the other team are level 2, and probably a 3 minute mek on lich.

how do lich furion enigma tank? aren't those summons 1 hit at lvl 1? or do you kite... how does it work?
I'll bite this hand that feeds me, and take it for my own!
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 07 2012 15:45 GMT
#2009
AM Furion isn't as nuts as SB Furion lol, THAT shit is crazy, charged and tp'd on for days.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
February 07 2012 15:47 GMT
#2010
On February 07 2012 20:51 lozarian wrote:
To play bat you need to to have a very specific mentality, it's the "fuck y'all, I am scarier than anything on this map" mentality. From level 2. You go mid, get 2-3 stacks of napalm on the enemy hero, then when they're facing you, firefly then run at them and go balls out. You start killin shit, and don't stop until they beg you to have mercy, and even then it's only to stop and laugh over their burnt, crispy corpses.

If it's level 4, you're batrider, and someone isnt dead yet, you're doing it wrong. Obviously this is easier with someone ganking your lane, but you don't need it, because waiting for help is for pussies, and you're not a pussy, you're a fucking explosive hellfire bat of death. Once you have first blood you have boots. You pop a potion, wait for the fool to come back to the lane, and you do it again. Then you kill his friends, family, and if he has any pets, you kill them too.


Rofl this is so true and so amazing. 5 stars if I could.
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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
February 07 2012 16:03 GMT
#2011
On February 08 2012 00:43 Bloodash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 00:37 lozarian wrote:
Or level 1 rosh with good pushers, and then win in 15. I've said it before, but lich fuion enigma can rosh at level 1 on their own, with basically 0 trouble. Give all the exp to lich or furion, and you either have a level 5 global ganker, or a chain frost when the other team are level 2, and probably a 3 minute mek on lich.

how do lich furion enigma tank? aren't those summons 1 hit at lvl 1? or do you kite... how does it work?

Treants with Frost Armour tank quite a few hits. This allows Eidelons to multiply. Work in a second set of trees and summons and you're golden. Just requires moving stuff out when at low HP.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
February 07 2012 16:08 GMT
#2012
Thank you, thank you, I'm here all week.

As for the summons rosh strat: headdress, basilus, lich gets frost armour, furion gets trees, enigma eidos, obviously. Engima uses one tree to make eidos, furion makes trees from base and sends them to rosh straight away, frost on the surviving treant and use it to tank. Rosh attacks like once a year with frost armour debuff, you need maybe two sets of treants to kill him, eidolons do a ton of damage, even at level 1, there's 6 of them, with 20 damage each.
For every battle honour a thousand heroes die alone, unsung, and unremembered.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 07 2012 17:27 GMT
#2013
On February 08 2012 01:08 lozarian wrote:
Thank you, thank you, I'm here all week.

As for the summons rosh strat: headdress, basilus, lich gets frost armour, furion gets trees, enigma eidos, obviously. Engima uses one tree to make eidos, furion makes trees from base and sends them to rosh straight away, frost on the surviving treant and use it to tank. Rosh attacks like once a year with frost armour debuff, you need maybe two sets of treants to kill him, eidolons do a ton of damage, even at level 1, there's 6 of them, with 20 damage each.

For extra fun I'd add a Tinker and give him all the exp and the Aegis. Think he's the best hero for that.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 07 2012 17:53 GMT
#2014
Lion is the most hilarious one.
WriterXiao8~~
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
February 07 2012 17:57 GMT
#2015
A carry lich would be far funnier tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
paschl
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany666 Posts
February 07 2012 18:15 GMT
#2016
you can lvl1 rosh with just ursa and skeleton king.
its super easy and basically wins you the game right there if you know what youre doing.
ive done it a few times with a buddy but people are starting to get aware of it and check rosh early if sk and ursa are picked.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 07 2012 18:17 GMT
#2017
On February 08 2012 03:15 paschl wrote:
you can lvl1 rosh with just ursa and skeleton king.
its super easy and basically wins you the game right there if you know what youre doing.
ive done it a few times with a buddy but people are starting to get aware of it and check rosh early if sk and ursa are picked.

You realize the discussion of Enigma/Furion/Lich level 1 Rosh started because people pointed out that doing it as SK/Ursa leaves you as sitting ducks if you get caught?
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lozarian
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1043 Posts
February 07 2012 19:06 GMT
#2018
Also because it's amazingly obvious.
For every battle honour a thousand heroes die alone, unsung, and unremembered.
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
February 07 2012 19:14 GMT
#2019
On February 08 2012 02:27 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 01:08 lozarian wrote:
Thank you, thank you, I'm here all week.

As for the summons rosh strat: headdress, basilus, lich gets frost armour, furion gets trees, enigma eidos, obviously. Engima uses one tree to make eidos, furion makes trees from base and sends them to rosh straight away, frost on the surviving treant and use it to tank. Rosh attacks like once a year with frost armour debuff, you need maybe two sets of treants to kill him, eidolons do a ton of damage, even at level 1, there's 6 of them, with 20 damage each.

For extra fun I'd add a Tinker and give him all the exp and the Aegis. Think he's the best hero for that.

O lawdy, lol. If tinker went bottle first, he could basically nuke mid out of the game right there, and get like a 4 minute BoT, and be pooping on lvl 3s in lane with 4/4 laser and rockets and BoT. Probably go ~20-0 by 20 minutes easy.
ChrisXIV
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Austria3553 Posts
February 07 2012 19:30 GMT
#2020
[image loading]

Did I mention I love playing Windrunner?

Linken's is totally imba in pubs because no one wants to sacrifice a spell to break it, and even then there's still windrun to get away.
"Just stay on 1 base, make a lot of shit, keep attacking. It doesn't work? Keep attacking." -Chill
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