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Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
September 16 2014 07:58 GMT
#129941
dango dango

Clannad...
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
September 16 2014 08:14 GMT
#129942
On September 16 2014 13:58 tehh4ck3r wrote:
Guys only 3 more pages until we get a CM tip

(riiight?)

It's every 1000 pages
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44313 Posts
September 16 2014 08:46 GMT
#129943
On September 16 2014 16:58 Gosi wrote:
dango dango

Clannad...

dango dango dango

daikazoku
this is a quote
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
September 16 2014 09:47 GMT
#129944
That Rosh change makes it look like the pits from superiormoba.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Valhalla44
Profile Joined May 2010
Bosnia-Herzegovina983 Posts
September 16 2014 10:28 GMT
#129945
On September 16 2014 18:47 -Celestial- wrote:
That Rosh change makes it look like the pits from superiormoba.

I thought it was inferiormoba?
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
September 16 2014 10:30 GMT
#129946
No we are inferiormoba
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44313 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 10:49:16
September 16 2014 10:48 GMT
#129947
superior moba = + Show Spoiler +
LoL

superior superior moba = + Show Spoiler +
HoTS

Ultimate moba = + Show Spoiler +
Strife

poor man's moba = + Show Spoiler +
dota 1


am i doing this right ?
this is a quote
-Celestial-
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom3867 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 11:03:59
September 16 2014 11:03 GMT
#129948
One question is where Smite and HoN come into all of this.
"Protoss simultaneously feels unbeatably strong and unwinnably weak." - kcdc
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 16 2014 11:06 GMT
#129949
HoN: confused moba. Strife: Moba?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
misirlou
Profile Joined June 2010
Portugal3319 Posts
September 16 2014 11:37 GMT
#129950
LC with arcana playing on bulldog's stream, 50 victories short of 5k duel wins. jesssssuuuussssss
BobMcJohnson
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
France2916 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 11:40:03
September 16 2014 11:39 GMT
#129951
which one is daedgame moba? sc2 or HoN?
Romanes eunt domus
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
September 16 2014 12:29 GMT
#129952
On September 16 2014 07:56 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2014 07:40 govie wrote:
On September 16 2014 06:28 Torte de Lini wrote:
On September 16 2014 06:20 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On September 16 2014 06:16 Torte de Lini wrote:
On September 16 2014 06:01 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Amusingly, I triple-majored in history, classics and Asian Studies. None of those things are even remotely worthwhile.

On the other hand, a buddy of mine in high school got his Master Electrician's license and is making $150,000 a year.

It just takes a certain amount of foresight and the willingness to look at things rationally and without romance. No matter how many professors tell you otherwise, or how stupid it sounds, a degree in Gender Studies or Creative Writing qualifies you to work as a barista, while a certification in pipefitting guarantees that you'll make enough money to do whatever you want to do for fun.


It's practical to go and study fields that are in high-demand, it's just not the basis of university at all. It's even dumber to reject someone's perspective on university and debt by saying: "all you have to do to avoid paying debt for decades is to study something that pays well"

If people knowingly make shitty decisions, they shouldn't be surprised when those decisions have consequences.

If you take out loans to pay for an expensive liberal arts college, and you get a degree that doesn't have career potential, it is no one's fault but your own that you're stuck in debt. It's no different to buying anything else you can't afford.


I think people go into university for different reasons than for career interest. That's on top of the fact that they are only eligible for certain degrees or programs if they have right grades or curriculum in school (so someone who didn't achieve very well in Mathematics, is very unlikely to get those strong career-driven fields). Are we to blame, as a society, high-schoolers for failing to achieve certain areas of their semesters or those without the aptitude to achieve in Math, Science, Physics, Biology?

Or is it fair of you to dismiss everyone because they didn't all choose the same fields that pay so very well? Let's not forget that if everyone chose those fields, demand would be lower, salaries would drop and they wouldn't be as "rational" of a choice as they once were. Not to mention that the other curriculums would also lose a lot of employment and, ultimately, hurt the society's economy.

I think, in short, you narrowly defined the point of university to a purely practical purpose while also failing to see how your dismissive viewpoint not only hurts your own argument hypothetically, but also from a "rational" perspective as a society.


No he's right about the choice in education i think. You know prehand that liberal arts isnt such a high garantee for a job like other educations are, thats how it works. Its fine you choose an education that seems fun with less jobperspective then a normal education, but then it isnt school anymore but more daycare-like. Now de question for the young artist should be, is the education worth the debt or not? Are there other ways to reach the same goal? Arts & education are important ofcourse but op does have a valid point.


Let's remove Liberal Arts from the equation. Even Social Sciences simply do not pay as marginally well as other degrees: but they're quintessential for people to take.

Philosophically, university should be a place to seek further knowledge on affairs that pertain to both your interest and values, intellect and perspective on the world. but even if we remove that ideology, going to university purely for a job that removes all previous debts and/or financial obligations of both itself (university debt) as well as potential of financial stability (if we are to assume that the job market of demand for newly-graduates is stable and high) ruins the point of choice within university or seeking a higher degree.

I agree with OP on the suggestion that debts and cost of degrees should be proportionate to what the degree can offer you in terms of salary and career. That said, many social science degrees require a higher education (graduate school) to be fulfilling in terms of salary to be able to pay any of it.

Saying you should enroll in degrees that pay well to pay back going into university in the first place feels very backwards. That's on top of blaming that person for not narrowing their life's choices to a career they may not even be interested in or remote to their actual capabilities.

Minimizing other specialties as "daycare" is just circlejerking.


I dont agree that one of the universities primary tasks is too help youngsters develop there views and personality, thats were we differ i guess. The skills, views & personality you gained from your education are useless if there is no demand for these during your lifetime. If you allready know this fact before you choose, it would seem foolish to follow a course which creates a large debt for you without any garantee of a return of investment. Eventually its just a job, nothing more.

Big corporations used to have inhouse education, i still think it is a shame those are mostly gone. Alot of people and companies benefitted from those institutions within a big company. It was a great way to learn skills without any debt and you learned alot more indepth then in a typical school/uni. Nowadays you have to have a degree before you can enrole in internships i think thats a shame.
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 12:35:37
September 16 2014 12:34 GMT
#129953
That's a bannable necro, imo.

Srsly y.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44313 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 12:59:09
September 16 2014 12:46 GMT
#129954
Hon : Daedgame Moba
Smite : It's a moba ?
this is a quote
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 16 2014 12:49 GMT
#129955
Pudge Wars is the Ur-Moba.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 12:50:14
September 16 2014 12:49 GMT
#129956
On September 16 2014 21:29 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2014 07:56 Torte de Lini wrote:
On September 16 2014 07:40 govie wrote:
On September 16 2014 06:28 Torte de Lini wrote:
On September 16 2014 06:20 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
On September 16 2014 06:16 Torte de Lini wrote:
On September 16 2014 06:01 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Amusingly, I triple-majored in history, classics and Asian Studies. None of those things are even remotely worthwhile.

On the other hand, a buddy of mine in high school got his Master Electrician's license and is making $150,000 a year.

It just takes a certain amount of foresight and the willingness to look at things rationally and without romance. No matter how many professors tell you otherwise, or how stupid it sounds, a degree in Gender Studies or Creative Writing qualifies you to work as a barista, while a certification in pipefitting guarantees that you'll make enough money to do whatever you want to do for fun.


It's practical to go and study fields that are in high-demand, it's just not the basis of university at all. It's even dumber to reject someone's perspective on university and debt by saying: "all you have to do to avoid paying debt for decades is to study something that pays well"

If people knowingly make shitty decisions, they shouldn't be surprised when those decisions have consequences.

If you take out loans to pay for an expensive liberal arts college, and you get a degree that doesn't have career potential, it is no one's fault but your own that you're stuck in debt. It's no different to buying anything else you can't afford.


I think people go into university for different reasons than for career interest. That's on top of the fact that they are only eligible for certain degrees or programs if they have right grades or curriculum in school (so someone who didn't achieve very well in Mathematics, is very unlikely to get those strong career-driven fields). Are we to blame, as a society, high-schoolers for failing to achieve certain areas of their semesters or those without the aptitude to achieve in Math, Science, Physics, Biology?

Or is it fair of you to dismiss everyone because they didn't all choose the same fields that pay so very well? Let's not forget that if everyone chose those fields, demand would be lower, salaries would drop and they wouldn't be as "rational" of a choice as they once were. Not to mention that the other curriculums would also lose a lot of employment and, ultimately, hurt the society's economy.

I think, in short, you narrowly defined the point of university to a purely practical purpose while also failing to see how your dismissive viewpoint not only hurts your own argument hypothetically, but also from a "rational" perspective as a society.


No he's right about the choice in education i think. You know prehand that liberal arts isnt such a high garantee for a job like other educations are, thats how it works. Its fine you choose an education that seems fun with less jobperspective then a normal education, but then it isnt school anymore but more daycare-like. Now de question for the young artist should be, is the education worth the debt or not? Are there other ways to reach the same goal? Arts & education are important ofcourse but op does have a valid point.


Let's remove Liberal Arts from the equation. Even Social Sciences simply do not pay as marginally well as other degrees: but they're quintessential for people to take.

Philosophically, university should be a place to seek further knowledge on affairs that pertain to both your interest and values, intellect and perspective on the world. but even if we remove that ideology, going to university purely for a job that removes all previous debts and/or financial obligations of both itself (university debt) as well as potential of financial stability (if we are to assume that the job market of demand for newly-graduates is stable and high) ruins the point of choice within university or seeking a higher degree.

I agree with OP on the suggestion that debts and cost of degrees should be proportionate to what the degree can offer you in terms of salary and career. That said, many social science degrees require a higher education (graduate school) to be fulfilling in terms of salary to be able to pay any of it.

Saying you should enroll in degrees that pay well to pay back going into university in the first place feels very backwards. That's on top of blaming that person for not narrowing their life's choices to a career they may not even be interested in or remote to their actual capabilities.

Minimizing other specialties as "daycare" is just circlejerking.


I dont agree that one of the universities primary tasks is too help youngsters develop there views and personality, thats were we differ i guess. The skills, views & personality you gained from your education are useless if there is no demand for these during your lifetime. If you allready know this fact before you choose, it would seem foolish to follow a course which creates a large debt for you without any garantee of a return of investment. Eventually its just a job, nothing more.

Big corporations used to have inhouse education, i still think it is a shame those are mostly gone. Alot of people and companies benefitted from those institutions within a big company. It was a great way to learn skills without any debt and you learned alot more indepth then in a typical school/uni. Nowadays you have to have a degree before you can enrole in internships i think thats a shame.


y r u doin this

we work so hard to bury
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 16 2014 12:51 GMT
#129957
NECRO'D THROUGH THE HEART, AND YOU'RE TO BLAME

YOU GIVE GD A BAD NAME
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 16 2014 12:54 GMT
#129958
i didnt know u were a bon jovi fan
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 16 2014 12:55 GMT
#129959
What's bon jovi? Is that like bonbons?
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 16 2014 12:56 GMT
#129960
ew bonbons
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
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