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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-07 22:08:45
September 07 2014 22:06 GMT
#128261
On September 08 2014 07:02 SKC wrote:
He didnt call him on Skype. He sent a single emoticon as a message.

Ah I misinterpreted the "comes on to skype during the stream" as a call. I am still going to say pretty dumb however. Don't start fights with people while they are streaming. There is a reason people discuss stuff in private. If you owe the guy money(or even if your not sure or that might not have been the agreement) don't pour fuel on the fire by sending him gumpy messages.

On September 08 2014 07:06 Yoshi- wrote:
But v1lat said that he has apologized before this whole event?

Unless that came in the form of a check, I'm not sure saying "im sorry" lets him get mad at Waga for talking about it.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-07 22:14:10
September 07 2014 22:11 GMT
#128262
On September 08 2014 07:06 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 07:02 SKC wrote:
He didnt call him on Skype. He sent a single emoticon as a message.

Ah I missed the comes on to skype during the stream as a call. I am still going to say pretty dumb however. Don't start fights with people while they are streaming. There is a reason people discuss stuff in private. If you owe the guy money(or even if your not sure or that might not have been the agreement) don't pour fuel on the fire by sending him gumpy messages.

Who knows if he even knew Waga was streaming. He was mad with Waga and sent him a message, Skype, Twitter, Steam, whathever doesnt matter. Waga, probally very tired and in an emotional state, then misrepresented the message and replied with the same emoticon. V1lat probally misunderstood it even further and they started privately arguing on Skype, as far as we know, since that wasnt shown, and it splashed out into Twitch, Reddit, everywhere.

Messaging someone privately isnt a big deal, and I would guess it happens all the time with people that stream as much as Waga does. The issue is that he thought V1lat was congratulating him on the subs when he was complaining about the post. Which made Waga even madder.

The check doesnt matter. Waga himself said he only wanted V1lat to admit the mistake, and that was at the height of his anger. It was 3 years ago, for a really small amount. He doesnt care about it.
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
September 07 2014 22:27 GMT
#128263
Whole thing is bad from both sides and they both took it to reddit where the pitchforks never get put away
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
September 07 2014 22:44 GMT
#128264
And waga got shadowbanned from reddit for a tweet that basically said to upvote his post lol
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7087 Posts
September 07 2014 22:48 GMT
#128265
AM getting crushed in DD vs Na'vi.US... i want to see him become viable again
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
September 07 2014 22:53 GMT
#128266
On September 08 2014 07:48 tehh4ck3r wrote:
AM getting crushed in DD vs Na'vi.US... i want to see him become viable again

At work, who's playing AM?
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7087 Posts
September 07 2014 23:05 GMT
#128267
On September 08 2014 07:53 EnumaAvalon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 07:48 tehh4ck3r wrote:
AM getting crushed in DD vs Na'vi.US... i want to see him become viable again

At work, who's playing AM?


DD had antimage, but they got rolled
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 07 2014 23:08 GMT
#128268
waga was dumb for throwing a tantrum on his stream
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
September 07 2014 23:21 GMT
#128269
On September 08 2014 08:08 Targe wrote:
waga was dumb for throwing a tantrum on his stream


He lost nothing doing it but more rally.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 07 2014 23:33 GMT
#128270
Stream venting definitely helped him. Targe seems to be the only one who thinks it didn't. :crazy:
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 00:01:22
September 07 2014 23:59 GMT
#128271
well ye it helped him cos reddit is retarded
theyve all started fanboying him since his techies thing

maybe waga is a genius and new reddit would react like they did
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 08 2014 00:09 GMT
#128272
What is your argument against waga in this situation? I must be missing something here...
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 00:18:06
September 08 2014 00:14 GMT
#128273
On September 08 2014 08:59 Targe wrote:
well ye it helped him cos reddit is retarded
theyve all started fanboying him since his techies thing

maybe waga is a genius and new reddit would react like they did


Sounds like a cop-out argument. I would more say that Waga knows how to present himself as personable with also genuineness and authenticity.

Every time a new hero comes out, people want to see how good players him; that's beyond normal and you already know that.

Waga justifying someone else's injustice with his own story that frames him pretty damn well against an organization with hits and misses in terms of PR is also an easy three-pointer.

Crying on stream for his gratitude and sincere appreciation, showing an even more personal side (besides his story) and putting himself in a vulnerable but touching situation as people rally for him financially and emotionally is the equivalent of Midway Hangtime double flip dunks

https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
September 08 2014 00:22 GMT
#128274
It was dumb to throw a tantrum on stream because it is not something he wants to do. He quickly apologized and Im sure he that if he could go back in time he would handle it diferently. If you asked him he would probally say it was dumb to react that way.

It also doesnt hurt him.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-08 00:46:01
September 08 2014 00:45 GMT
#128275
http://www.dotabuff.com/matches/882297357

I SO NEARLY WON 1V5

of course throwing a tantrum was dumb it makes you look like a child
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
tehh4ck3r
Profile Joined August 2013
Magrathea7087 Posts
September 08 2014 00:53 GMT
#128276
targe why do you have so many smurfs
AdministratorIn those days, spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women, and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 08 2014 00:54 GMT
#128277
cos theyre looking for me man
i change my real name and address every few days
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 08 2014 00:56 GMT
#128278
What is your thoughts on the Fnatic vs NVMI get on dota 2 lounge? Currently at 66% fnatic and 34% NVMI... I am thinking NVMI is good value bet.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 08 2014 00:57 GMT
#128279
regarding the waga situation: who caaaaaaaaares

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MyrMindservant
Profile Joined October 2013
695 Posts
September 08 2014 01:01 GMT
#128280
On September 08 2014 06:08 misirlou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2014 06:06 kollin wrote:
It's more the pitchforking of v1lat based on word of mouth of random posters as far as I can tell, as well as the assumption that he's shady because fucking tobi of all people said it.

Wagamama and friends being out 500$ for 3 years and calling it out isn't exactly a random poster. EG/C9 skipping tournaments because payments are delayed isn't exactly random either

EG/C9 skipping a mini-tournament (more like a series of show matches) had nothing to do with Starladder or v1lat. You are mixing things up.
Additionally, both teams do participate in the ongoing season of Starladder.

As for that issue with Wagamama, this was already discussed in a neighbouring thread.
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