EPThow does that work ? you ulti then immediately cast upheaval and then afk ?
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sandyph
Indonesia1640 Posts
how does that work ? you ulti then immediately cast upheaval and then afk ? | ||
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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Veles
United States3280 Posts
it is arguably more effective than bonds because everyone stuck in the slow is fucked if its not canceled getting both doesn't really make sense because if you bonds -> slow you're already too close, and slow -> bonds is silly because everything has been used by that point | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 08 2014 11:58 sandyph wrote: so why do people (aui) start doing 0-2-3-1 Warlock ? how does that work ? you ulti then immediately cast upheaval and then afk ? You don't even need to ult, although that helps a lot. Upheaval is really, really strong, because it provides some of the best area control* in the game, right up there with Midnight Pulse and March of the Machines. Its special quality is that even though it does no damage, it greatly limits their positioning. They can't engage the heroes they want to engage (say, Sniper or Zeus) and can't disengage from the heroes they want to disengage from (say, Lifestealer or Ursa). The build also vastly elevates Warlock's target importance in those early fights, meaning that he's suddenly going to be soaking up valuable disables instead of the higher-position heroes. If he has a high early level in Fatal Bonds, he's going to lose all relevance to the fight the second his Bonds->Ult->maybe Word is blown. He can just be ignored after that point. With Upheaval, though, they need to focus on him. Of course, his weaknesses are that your team needs to be able to do a lot with that space he generates, and that there are some pretty great ways of addressing him. Rubick, for example, can Levitate him and then toss him into the rest of his team. Earthshaker can Fissure and stun the enemy team and him. Tide fucks everything up. So on and so forth. He can be really good, though. *that doesn't outright stop enemy action like Chrono or Black Hole | ||
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sandyph
Indonesia1640 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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TomatoBisque
United States6290 Posts
This is a great read. Not because it's insightful, but because the author clearly has an axe to grind and it just permeates throughout | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 08 2014 12:40 sandyph wrote: ah, didnt realize fatal bonds have way shorter range than the other two. Make sense to skip it then if you want to stay as far back as possible. wondering how to try this in pub without getting noob warlock no bounds report plx :-/ Yeah with bond puts you in range of a lot of stuns. Its cool in lane, but I eaten it a bunch of times trying to get that thing off before dropping word in a team fight. | ||
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Fleetfeet
Canada2834 Posts
On September 08 2014 12:42 TomatoBisque wrote: http://www.learntocounter.com/why-dota-sucks-chapter-1/ This is a great read. Not because it's insightful, but because the author clearly has an axe to grind and it just permeates throughout I lost interest when the first two paragraphs said the same damn thing. And anyone out to shit on something a bunch of people enjoy isn't really worth my time anyhow, I think. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 08 2014 12:40 sandyph wrote: ah, didnt realize fatal bonds have way shorter range than the other two. Make sense to skip it then if you want to stay as far back as possible. wondering how to try this in pub without getting noob warlock no bounds report plx :-/ Don't. It takes a LOT of team support. Try it out with some friends, though! Part of good pub strategy is ease of coordination. Upheaval is pretty hard to coordinate, because you all need to be on the same page of engaging or disengaging or it becomes kind of bad. | ||
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
On September 08 2014 12:42 TomatoBisque wrote: http://www.learntocounter.com/why-dota-sucks-chapter-1/ This is a great read. Not because it's insightful, but because the author clearly has an axe to grind and it just permeates throughout Holy shit this is just hilarious... He's basically saying that Dota is an action game and should be made as one. Wow...fucking incredible. Gotta love any article that takes an entire chapter to explain why he has the authority to talk on these things. | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On September 08 2014 13:34 LeLoup wrote: Holy shit this is just hilarious... He's basically saying that Dota is an action game and should be made as one. Wow...fucking incredible. Gotta love any article that takes an entire chapter to explain why he has the authority to talk on these things. not just an article bro, he goes out of his way to make sure we know it's a "book" | ||
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r_con
United States824 Posts
On September 08 2014 12:42 TomatoBisque wrote: http://www.learntocounter.com/why-dota-sucks-chapter-1/ This is a great read. Not because it's insightful, but because the author clearly has an axe to grind and it just permeates throughout I thought this was a troll, is this serious? holy shit this is hilarious, give me a little bit and ill read the whole damn thing. | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/383002-the-transformation-of-e-sports Is what happened the last time he talked about dota, the thread got reasonably entertaining in the latter pages | ||
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Yurie
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You can break every single rule in every single rule book, as long as the game is more fun to play than its competition then it is a good game. | ||
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r_con
United States824 Posts
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Kupon3ss
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njt7
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Yurie
12163 Posts
On September 08 2014 15:10 njt7 wrote: I am reading his chapter on the camera and I cant get over why he didnt just double tap his portrait and play on with a happy face. Free camera is needed to play many Dota heroes. From chen, enchantress and meepo to techies, tinker and NP. | ||
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Fleetfeet
Canada2834 Posts
I made it halfway through chapter 3 before I stopped again. I made it through all the "Fixed camera master race" shit that's supposedly justified by his nametag of "Michael J Lowell, game designer", but I lost it at his argument for IMMERSION being really really super important in video games, and dota 2 is bad because the camera is a free camera, so you're not watching your omniknight pinned to the center of the screen shouting PURIFY and feeling like a badass. ...Seriously, he clearly hasn't played omniknight. You can't NOT feel like a badass as that dude. Get the giant sword that burns everything around you with radiant fire, press the R button that makes you not take damage, and press the W button that makes people not cast insults and logic at you. I think he could get behind that, you just live in your own world of unstoppable, immortal oblivion. | ||
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