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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 15:45:06
September 06 2014 15:43 GMT
#128101
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Patches Depending on how many b/c/d/e versions there are, the average seems to be around 4 months. 6.81 had just one adjustment patch in 6.81b and it's already over 4 months. It's one of the longer ones. Unless you go all the way back to like 5 years ago, but I don't see how that's relevant at all.

e: 6.79 took a little under 6 months, but it had 2 adjustment patches and there were new heroes being ported like every 2 weeks, that's a very different situation.
super gg
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 15:47:40
September 06 2014 15:44 GMT
#128102
The average being 4 months means that 3 months, like the patches you mentioned before, is fast, and 5 months or even more is fairly common.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 15:49:39
September 06 2014 15:48 GMT
#128103
Sure, but new heroes were being ported to dota 2 and to dota 2 captains mode at a pretty steady pace, so the pub and pro meta stayed fresh. We didn't get a single one during 6.81, that makes the patch seem much longer.

edit: well, we got Techies like just now, I guess.
super gg
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 16:01:08
September 06 2014 15:51 GMT
#128104
After Elder Titan, it took around 5 months and they only added like Abaddon.

6.78 was also released after those heroes. They were released during .77, which lasted like 6 months.

This patch lasted 4 months so far. By your own reserch it is average.
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 06 2014 16:27 GMT
#128105
Thanks, v1lat, for putting vods up promptly.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 06 2014 16:52 GMT
#128106
why the fuck is joinDota rebroadcasting Day 1 of WEC?
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
September 06 2014 16:57 GMT
#128107
On September 07 2014 00:51 SKC wrote:
After Elder Titan, it took around 5 months and they only added like Abaddon.

6.78 was also released after those heroes. They were released during .77, which lasted like 6 months.

This patch lasted 4 months so far. By your own reserch it is average.


at the start they ported 3-4 heros at once with like 1 month between patches. Now it takes 9 months to port 1 hero?
Also why does every hero need a small change, why not fix the ones that are op / broken or usless first.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
September 06 2014 17:04 GMT
#128108
On September 07 2014 01:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
why the fuck is joinDota rebroadcasting Day 1 of WEC?

Why not?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
September 06 2014 17:06 GMT
#128109
On September 07 2014 02:04 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 01:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
why the fuck is joinDota rebroadcasting Day 1 of WEC?

Why not?


Because Day 2 is the most recent?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
LuckoftheIrish
Profile Joined November 2011
United States4791 Posts
September 06 2014 17:10 GMT
#128110
On September 07 2014 02:04 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 01:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
why the fuck is joinDota rebroadcasting Day 1 of WEC?

Why not?


Because all their vods from Day 1 are up, but their vods from Day 2 aren't. So if someone wanted to watch something from day 2, they'd tune in to the rebroadcast; if they wanted to watch something from the first day they'd go to youtube.
On Twitter @GosuGamers_LotI | Grubby has a huge head!
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
September 06 2014 17:27 GMT
#128111
2 pro lycan games today. both on dire side. what gives?
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
r_con
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States824 Posts
September 06 2014 17:31 GMT
#128112
On September 07 2014 02:10 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 02:04 Yoshi- wrote:
On September 07 2014 01:52 LuckoftheIrish wrote:
why the fuck is joinDota rebroadcasting Day 1 of WEC?

Why not?


Because all their vods from Day 1 are up, but their vods from Day 2 aren't. So if someone wanted to watch something from day 2, they'd tune in to the rebroadcast; if they wanted to watch something from the first day they'd go to youtube.


Yep, thats kinda annoying, i wanted to watch the games i missed : (
Flash Fan!
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 17:47:14
September 06 2014 17:46 GMT
#128113
On September 07 2014 01:57 idonthinksobro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 00:51 SKC wrote:
After Elder Titan, it took around 5 months and they only added like Abaddon.

6.78 was also released after those heroes. They were released during .77, which lasted like 6 months.

This patch lasted 4 months so far. By your own reserch it is average.


at the start they ported 3-4 heros at once with like 1 month between patches. Now it takes 9 months to port 1 hero?
Also why does every hero need a small change, why not fix the ones that are op / broken or usless first.

That's the standard/blizzard approach. The problem with it is that it's boring as shit and that the patch gets figured out super quickly so you might as well patch again 2 weeks. The genius of IceFrog's patches is that he can get away with so much so insane stuff in his patches because he does a lot of these changes at the same time. The crazy stuff then balances itself out and when the community slowly discovers some stuff that is truly overpowered it just gets banned out every game and it's not a big deal. And by the time you reach a stage where most of the OP stuff is figured out it's almost time for a new patch.

And maybe the patch isn't that long. But it damn well feels long, because of the lack of new heroes and the fact that this patch had a lot of pressure on it. The bigger tournaments in the patch, the sooner it gets figured out. This issue is not getting better looking forward, tho.

Bet on MYM vs Na'Vi.US, Na'Vi.US didn't show up so I moved my rares on Alliance vs NVMI and the match crashes and they can't reconnect. I think the game is trying to tell me something, I probably shouldn't get back into betting.
super gg
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
September 06 2014 17:54 GMT
#128114
On September 07 2014 02:46 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2014 01:57 idonthinksobro wrote:
On September 07 2014 00:51 SKC wrote:
After Elder Titan, it took around 5 months and they only added like Abaddon.

6.78 was also released after those heroes. They were released during .77, which lasted like 6 months.

This patch lasted 4 months so far. By your own reserch it is average.


at the start they ported 3-4 heros at once with like 1 month between patches. Now it takes 9 months to port 1 hero?
Also why does every hero need a small change, why not fix the ones that are op / broken or usless first.

That's the standard/blizzard approach. The problem with it is that it's boring as shit and that the patch gets figured out super quickly so you might as well patch again 2 weeks. The genius of IceFrog's patches is that he can get away with so much so insane stuff in his patches because he does a lot of these changes at the same time. The crazy stuff then balances itself out and when the community slowly discovers some stuff that is truly overpowered it just gets banned out every game and it's not a big deal. And by the time you reach a stage where most of the OP stuff is figured out it's almost time for a new patch.

And maybe the patch isn't that long. But it damn well feels long, because of the lack of new heroes and the fact that this patch had a lot of pressure on it. The bigger tournaments in the patch, the sooner it gets figured out. This issue is not getting better looking forward, tho.

Bet on MYM vs Na'Vi.US, Na'Vi.US didn't show up so I moved my rares on Alliance vs NVMI and the match crashes and they can't reconnect. I think the game is trying to tell me something, I probably shouldn't get back into betting.

Yeah but why dsoens't every team pick meepo it makes no sense to me.
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TomatoBisque
Profile Joined March 2013
United States6290 Posts
September 06 2014 18:05 GMT
#128115
People complaining about patch lengths would have gone crazy back when we had stable versions, so you only got a balance shift once a year.
rip
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13092 Posts
September 06 2014 18:17 GMT
#128116
Bursted into laughter when i heard Storm spirit victory prediction shout.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
September 06 2014 18:35 GMT
#128117
Speaking of victory predictions, im currently at 5.

bow down plebs
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
September 06 2014 19:00 GMT
#128118
On September 07 2014 01:57 idonthinksobro wrote:

Also why does every hero need a small change, why not fix the ones that are op / broken or usless first.


Thank god you are not Icefrog.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 19:02:34
September 06 2014 19:02 GMT
#128119
Anyone reading phdcomics? Looks like the author is playing dota.
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13092 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 19:05:37
September 06 2014 19:03 GMT
#128120
On September 07 2014 03:35 icystorage wrote:
Speaking of victory predictions, im currently at 5.

bow down plebs


2 out of 2 games so far.

It resets if you lose yes?
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
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