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Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 06:40:47
September 06 2014 06:32 GMT
#128061
On September 06 2014 15:04 goody153 wrote:
this is offtopic question .. what's the go to race in warcraft ? or historically the most successful race competitively

Moon?
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
September 06 2014 06:43 GMT
#128062
Is there something going in wc3 right now? Other than that, orc had a cookie-cutter build that worked vs everyone (blademaster shadow hunter grunts raiders spirit walkers), which most thought made them stronger or at least easier to play than the other races. At least that's how it was when i stopped playing years ago.

Man this makes me miss some of the old hero models, mainly the taurens.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 06:52:51
September 06 2014 06:50 GMT
#128063
Oh so what's the terran of the wc3 ? you know the most used ? also what is the most difficult to use ?

On September 06 2014 15:32 Kishin2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 15:04 goody153 wrote:
this is offtopic question .. what's the go to race in warcraft ? or historically the most successful race competitively

Moon?

He is the flash of wc3 right ?
this is a quote
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
September 06 2014 06:54 GMT
#128064
If you look over the entire War 3 history, I'd vote NE. Orc was really strong near the end but NE/ORC match-up was far from imba, and I can't really think of a time when NE was straight bad. UD were good until Destroyer/Hero nerfs, they haven't won a major in like 7 years lel.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2795 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 06:57:40
September 06 2014 06:56 GMT
#128065
On September 06 2014 15:50 goody153 wrote:
He is the flash of wc3 right ?


Nah, Moon's the 5th race in WC3
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
September 06 2014 07:10 GMT
#128066
I think ne was very dominant simply because of moon, and likewise orc with grubby
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 06 2014 07:39 GMT
#128067
Over the entire life of the team of WC3 NE is generally the best since it's never been a bad race

During the golden age NE Orc Human were all around the same at top tier play

Towards the end the game definitely became orc-favored, but orc was considered pretty bad until a bunch of years into the game when some guy realized that they can start blademaster
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 06 2014 09:35 GMT
#128068
this TI4 soundtrack made the game sound so much more intense now
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13081 Posts
September 06 2014 10:56 GMT
#128069
Anyone knows whats up with unusual greevil couriers? My greedy courier lost his aura in the new patch.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
idonthinksobro
Profile Joined December 2010
3138 Posts
September 06 2014 11:15 GMT
#128070
On September 06 2014 19:56 SkelA wrote:
Anyone knows whats up with unusual greevil couriers? My greedy courier lost his aura in the new patch.


know bug also a lot of kinetic gems don't work
BluemoonSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
SoCal8933 Posts
September 06 2014 12:03 GMT
#128071
well boys, my butthole was successfully prepared for techies. watching waga's stream helped a great deal.

unfortunately i lost to a doom who went dagon first because i couldn't get my team to group up for the life of me.
LiquidDota Staff@BluemoonGG_
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
September 06 2014 12:15 GMT
#128072
Reddit delivered today: + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


So fucking good. Best infographic ever.
super gg
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
September 06 2014 12:18 GMT
#128073
On September 06 2014 15:32 Kishin2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 15:04 goody153 wrote:
this is offtopic question .. what's the go to race in warcraft ? or historically the most successful race competitively

Moon?


Wasn't Moon the guy that won everything but the most important tourney: WCG?
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 06 2014 12:19 GMT
#128074
On September 06 2014 16:39 Kupon3ss wrote:
Over the entire life of the team of WC3 NE is generally the best since it's never been a bad race

During the golden age NE Orc Human were all around the same at top tier play

Towards the end the game definitely became orc-favored, but orc was considered pretty bad until a bunch of years into the game when some guy realized that they can start blademaster

no blademaster got a buff (it used to be windwalk doesnt give phase)

orc also was considered favoured against human and pretty heavily vs UD but ne was always favoured against orc (SERIOUSLY ORC VS NE WAS TEH BIGGEST CANCER EVER) CYCLONECYCLONECYCLONECYCLONECYLCLONE
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
September 06 2014 12:20 GMT
#128075
On September 06 2014 21:18 TMG26 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 15:32 Kishin2 wrote:
On September 06 2014 15:04 goody153 wrote:
this is offtopic question .. what's the go to race in warcraft ? or historically the most successful race competitively

Moon?


Wasn't Moon the guy that won everything but the most important tourney: WCG?

he even lost in wcg finals last year
that was so unbelievably sad
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
VioletMelody
Profile Joined September 2013
United States31 Posts
September 06 2014 12:24 GMT
#128076
On September 06 2014 11:24 Fleetfeet wrote:
This meta fucking sucks. The quality of the void player means way too much for the quality of the game. It's like silencer, giving any hero that powerful to someone ill equipped to use it just makes life shitty for everyone.


>Pub meta maybe...
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
September 06 2014 12:28 GMT
#128077
Well, in China wc3 is still big.

And Sky is still the biggest personality in Chinese e-sports.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 06 2014 13:36 GMT
#128078
On September 06 2014 21:19 teddyoojo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 16:39 Kupon3ss wrote:
Over the entire life of the team of WC3 NE is generally the best since it's never been a bad race

During the golden age NE Orc Human were all around the same at top tier play

Towards the end the game definitely became orc-favored, but orc was considered pretty bad until a bunch of years into the game when some guy realized that they can start blademaster

no blademaster got a buff (it used to be windwalk doesnt give phase)

orc also was considered favoured against human and pretty heavily vs UD but ne was always favoured against orc (SERIOUSLY ORC VS NE WAS TEH BIGGEST CANCER EVER) CYCLONECYCLONECYCLONECYCLONECYLCLONE


Try a strategy where all your damage doesn't come from one unit that can be cycloned
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 06 2014 14:05 GMT
#128079
On September 06 2014 21:24 VioletMelody wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 11:24 Fleetfeet wrote:
This meta fucking sucks. The quality of the void player means way too much for the quality of the game. It's like silencer, giving any hero that powerful to someone ill equipped to use it just makes life shitty for everyone.


>Pub meta maybe...

competitive meta sucks to watch also
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
VioletMelody
Profile Joined September 2013
United States31 Posts
September 06 2014 14:17 GMT
#128080
On September 06 2014 23:05 Targe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 21:24 VioletMelody wrote:
On September 06 2014 11:24 Fleetfeet wrote:
This meta fucking sucks. The quality of the void player means way too much for the quality of the game. It's like silencer, giving any hero that powerful to someone ill equipped to use it just makes life shitty for everyone.


>Pub meta maybe...

competitive meta sucks to watch also

Educational if nothing less. Most casters are cancer. I just like watching fast paced game play. However the meta does need to slow down a tad.
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