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Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 06 2014 14:34 GMT
#128081
On September 06 2014 15:50 goody153 wrote:
Oh so what's the terran of the wc3 ? you know the most used ? also what is the most difficult to use ?

Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 15:32 Kishin2 wrote:
On September 06 2014 15:04 goody153 wrote:
this is offtopic question .. what's the go to race in warcraft ? or historically the most successful race competitively

Moon?

He is the flash of wc3 right ?

Just like everyone says, Night Elf is the go-to. It's not difficult to learn basic Demon Hunter openings into the double Lore or double Wind build. Hell, you can even run PotM for the mirror, or go to oldschool Beastmaster.

No race is really the most difficult. It's just a matter of what you've practiced. Orc is tough until you've mastered Blademaster harass, and then it gets a lot easier. So it goes.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
September 06 2014 14:40 GMT
#128082
I've played 6 games this patch and still haven't seen a techies. I feel so blessed.
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
September 06 2014 14:41 GMT
#128083
On September 06 2014 23:34 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 15:50 goody153 wrote:
Oh so what's the terran of the wc3 ? you know the most used ? also what is the most difficult to use ?

On September 06 2014 15:32 Kishin2 wrote:
On September 06 2014 15:04 goody153 wrote:
this is offtopic question .. what's the go to race in warcraft ? or historically the most successful race competitively

Moon?

He is the flash of wc3 right ?

Just like everyone says, Night Elf is the go-to. It's not difficult to learn basic Demon Hunter openings into the double Lore or double Wind build. Hell, you can even run PotM for the mirror, or go to oldschool Beastmaster.

No race is really the most difficult. It's just a matter of what you've practiced. Orc is tough until you've mastered Blademaster harass, and then it gets a lot easier. So it goes.

Undead would disagree. That race was always underpowered to all hell. I think the only good UD player ever was Lucifer, and even then he got stomped by Moon and Grubby a lot. UD vs Orc was awful as well as your base had to be set up just right or he could come in and kill all your acolytes in no time flat.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 06 2014 14:42 GMT
#128084
On September 06 2014 23:41 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 23:34 Acritter wrote:
On September 06 2014 15:50 goody153 wrote:
Oh so what's the terran of the wc3 ? you know the most used ? also what is the most difficult to use ?

On September 06 2014 15:32 Kishin2 wrote:
On September 06 2014 15:04 goody153 wrote:
this is offtopic question .. what's the go to race in warcraft ? or historically the most successful race competitively

Moon?

He is the flash of wc3 right ?

Just like everyone says, Night Elf is the go-to. It's not difficult to learn basic Demon Hunter openings into the double Lore or double Wind build. Hell, you can even run PotM for the mirror, or go to oldschool Beastmaster.

No race is really the most difficult. It's just a matter of what you've practiced. Orc is tough until you've mastered Blademaster harass, and then it gets a lot easier. So it goes.

Undead would disagree. That race was always underpowered to all hell. I think the only good UD player ever was Lucifer, and even then he got stomped by Moon and Grubby a lot. UD vs Orc was awful as well as your base had to be set up just right or he could come in and kill all your acolytes in no time flat.

Undead is unwinnable versus Orc, but that doesn't make it more mechanically challenging than Orc. You're misinterpreting the question.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Jinxed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States6450 Posts
September 06 2014 14:43 GMT
#128085
On September 06 2014 23:42 Acritter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 23:41 LeLoup wrote:
On September 06 2014 23:34 Acritter wrote:
On September 06 2014 15:50 goody153 wrote:
Oh so what's the terran of the wc3 ? you know the most used ? also what is the most difficult to use ?

On September 06 2014 15:32 Kishin2 wrote:
On September 06 2014 15:04 goody153 wrote:
this is offtopic question .. what's the go to race in warcraft ? or historically the most successful race competitively

Moon?

He is the flash of wc3 right ?

Just like everyone says, Night Elf is the go-to. It's not difficult to learn basic Demon Hunter openings into the double Lore or double Wind build. Hell, you can even run PotM for the mirror, or go to oldschool Beastmaster.

No race is really the most difficult. It's just a matter of what you've practiced. Orc is tough until you've mastered Blademaster harass, and then it gets a lot easier. So it goes.

Undead would disagree. That race was always underpowered to all hell. I think the only good UD player ever was Lucifer, and even then he got stomped by Moon and Grubby a lot. UD vs Orc was awful as well as your base had to be set up just right or he could come in and kill all your acolytes in no time flat.

Undead is unwinnable versus Orc, but that doesn't make it more mechanically challenging than Orc. You're misinterpreting the question.

Yeah, I see that now. My bad.
LiquidDota Staff"LeLoup is a great name pls undo." -Liquid`Nazgul
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 06 2014 14:49 GMT
#128086
TED.CN.FOREVER

lucifer was pretty decent the 3 or so years he was active
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
September 06 2014 14:51 GMT
#128087
On September 06 2014 23:43 LeLoup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 23:42 Acritter wrote:
On September 06 2014 23:41 LeLoup wrote:
On September 06 2014 23:34 Acritter wrote:
On September 06 2014 15:50 goody153 wrote:
Oh so what's the terran of the wc3 ? you know the most used ? also what is the most difficult to use ?

On September 06 2014 15:32 Kishin2 wrote:
On September 06 2014 15:04 goody153 wrote:
this is offtopic question .. what's the go to race in warcraft ? or historically the most successful race competitively

Moon?

He is the flash of wc3 right ?

Just like everyone says, Night Elf is the go-to. It's not difficult to learn basic Demon Hunter openings into the double Lore or double Wind build. Hell, you can even run PotM for the mirror, or go to oldschool Beastmaster.

No race is really the most difficult. It's just a matter of what you've practiced. Orc is tough until you've mastered Blademaster harass, and then it gets a lot easier. So it goes.

Undead would disagree. That race was always underpowered to all hell. I think the only good UD player ever was Lucifer, and even then he got stomped by Moon and Grubby a lot. UD vs Orc was awful as well as your base had to be set up just right or he could come in and kill all your acolytes in no time flat.

Undead is unwinnable versus Orc, but that doesn't make it more mechanically challenging than Orc. You're misinterpreting the question.

Yeah, I see that now. My bad.

All good.

UD was the best shit for beating up semi-competent friends with, though. Open Crypt Graveyard, fast Crypt Fiends w/ Death Knight. That's basically impossible to stop for anyone without good anti-aggression fundamentals, which really aren't that easy to learn.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 06 2014 14:53 GMT
#128088
On September 06 2014 23:17 VioletMelody wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2014 23:05 Targe wrote:
On September 06 2014 21:24 VioletMelody wrote:
On September 06 2014 11:24 Fleetfeet wrote:
This meta fucking sucks. The quality of the void player means way too much for the quality of the game. It's like silencer, giving any hero that powerful to someone ill equipped to use it just makes life shitty for everyone.


>Pub meta maybe...

competitive meta sucks to watch also

Educational if nothing less. Most casters are cancer. I just like watching fast paced game play. However the meta does need to slow down a tad.

?
casters are good but the games are cancer
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
September 06 2014 14:55 GMT
#128089
The pro meta isn't that bad. We're still seeing some new things. Carry Leshrac and Enigma have been getting some momentum recently.
super gg
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 06 2014 14:57 GMT
#128090
It will shift, we saw the most ball's out Zeus in that last game with EG. That was pretty good.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
September 06 2014 14:59 GMT
#128091
ye some games are good but i see too many default to boring shit
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
September 06 2014 15:06 GMT
#128092
Well, that always happens towards the end of the patch's lifespan... It's really funny tho how quickly people forget. Now people are saying "oh man, the kotl + pl was so fun compared to this fucking razor!!" before the same people were saying "fuck cancer lancer, I liked seeing morphling in every single game, that was much more fun!!" and when morph reigned it was "guys, AM in every game wasn't actually that bad, I'm sick of looking at this shit morph every game." I'm not sure I got them in the correct order, but you get the idea.

Come on people, this is one of the most action packed and most varied meta we've ever had. Just because the patch is running a little long doesn't mean the game is becoming boring and it's worse than it's ever been. Just don't be idiots.
super gg
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
September 06 2014 15:10 GMT
#128093
The patch hasnt really been running that long at all.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 06 2014 15:11 GMT
#128094
I am ok with everything in the meta with the exception of Void and Brew. They are both kinda boring as shit right now for different reasons. Beyond, its pretty amusing.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
September 06 2014 15:16 GMT
#128095
Honestly speaking, this patch is probably one of the best so far.

We have seen a lot of versatile drafts and etc.

Play your best
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
September 06 2014 15:19 GMT
#128096
On September 06 2014 23:49 Kupon3ss wrote:
TED.CN.FOREVER

lucifer was pretty decent the 3 or so years he was active



Wasn't TED the guy Burning asked advice for his UD play?
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
September 06 2014 15:20 GMT
#128097
On September 07 2014 00:16 FakeDeath wrote:
Honestly speaking, this patch is probably one of the best so far.

We have seen a lot of versatile drafts and etc.



Yes. That's why there is so much hate. Because everyone has this or that Hero that they hate, and because everything is picked, everyone complains.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Acritter
Profile Joined August 2010
Syria7637 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 15:21:32
September 06 2014 15:21 GMT
#128098
Yes. TED's the guy.
dont let your memes be dreams - konydora, motivational speaker | not actually living in syria
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
September 06 2014 15:22 GMT
#128099
On September 07 2014 00:10 SKC wrote:
The patch hasnt really been running that long at all.

6.79 was October 21st, 6.80 was January 28th, 6.81 was April 29th. We've already has 6.81 for a month longer than 6.79 and 6.80 while both of the previous 2 major patches brought MUCH more radical changes than 6.81 so it took longer to figure stuff out and such. Yes, the patch is very much running long compared to other ones, I have no idea what you're talking about.
super gg
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-06 15:42:07
September 06 2014 15:28 GMT
#128100
Go back further, 3 months for a completelly new patch is fast for Dota standards, maybe it was because of the huge changes that were made in 6.79. But traditionally, you shouldnt expect like 4-5 patches a year.

Several patches have gone this long, we will probally get another one in the upcoming months, but this one hasnt been excedingly long. Last year, around the same time, it took like 5 months for 6.79.

If we had gotten a patch a month ago, and another one a couple of months from now, keeping the pace, it would have been a really fast year, patch wise.
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