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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 04 2014 00:50 SKC wrote: Ursa nerfs were quite a long time ago, before Dota 2 I think. Look through the changelog. The last thing to him that hasn't been a buff is re-adding a cast time to Overpower, and that was in 2012. I mean, it may have been a good example, but it's better to use contemporary nerfs. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
The blink change was HUGE for ursa too. | ||
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On September 04 2014 00:34 LSB wrote: Wait. Why are people complaining about tinker? He has a horrible professional and public win rate. Sure win rates are not everything, but when tinker has one of the lowest professional win rates in 6.81 (17th lowest), heck Team Tinker barely picks Tinker nowadays. Are we WoTC now? Nerfing alternative strategies because they are 'unfun' and 'non-interactive'? tinker is cancer if u win or lose | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
It improves his initation with blink so much, especially since you can pre-cast overpower. Not to mention with the new overpower with cast-time you can use it to cast enrage WITHOUT using its cast time(By casting overpower->enrage you instantly cast enrage without using its casttime). It's pretty neat and leaves ursa using his entire combo slightly faster in the end infact. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On September 04 2014 00:53 Acritter wrote: Look through the changelog. The last thing to him that hasn't been a buff is re-adding a cast time to Overpower, and that was in 2012. I mean, it may have been a good example, but it's better to use contemporary nerfs. No, since I was saying how nerfing heroes not used at the competitive level isnt something new, old examples are actually better. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 04 2014 00:52 Unleashing wrote: With the reduced cast time of earthshock as a trade-off i'd still argue that ursa is in a better spot now, but that might just be me. Earthshock used to have an annoying cast time compared to what it is now. I really like where the hero is now. Earthshock is great, he can Rosh and stuff, and you can manmode to hell and back. He's actually a really solid mid who farms ridiculously well with only a little bottlecrow and can actually just run down the enemy mid if they step out of position even once. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 04 2014 00:44 Acritter wrote: Blademail LC is pretty solid against Tinker. Some catch-out potential and then punishes the hero later in the game. Not as good as Doom or whatever, but hey. Yeah, she is really good locking down squirrelly heroes. Sure she isn't doom or bat rides, but those two heroes have like one job in all of dota, so I don't think she would do it better than them. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On September 04 2014 00:57 Sn0_Man wrote: I miss the 15s fury swipe duration on rosh :3 IIRC didn't that make level 1 solo rosh relatively simple to do? I never got to test that. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On September 04 2014 00:58 Unleashing wrote: IIRC didn't that make level 1 solo rosh relatively simple to do? I never got to test that. mhm it didn't last very long | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On September 04 2014 01:02 Plansix wrote: Didn't we long ago accept that pub win rates are not a reason to change a game back in the era of WoL in SC2? Or at least, its never a good reason because it just makes the game dull, flat and boring. No, since IceFrog clearly cares about pubs when balancing. There is one this thread will like. Remember when Tree was completelly abscent on pro games, had one of the highest winrates in pubs and IF removed the damage on the ult? | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On September 04 2014 00:58 SKC wrote: Want another one? Sniper was exclusively nerfed in 6.65. Sniper was never OP. Meepo also received a huge nerf when his net stopped affecting BKB targets, and he wasnt exactly dominating competitive games or pubs. Even Techies was nerfed one patch. And now meepo is one of the most broken non-picked heroes this patch. On September 04 2014 01:03 SKC wrote: No, since IceFrog clearly cares about pubs when balancing. There is one this thread will like. Remember when Tree was completelly abscent on pro games, had one of the highest winrates in pubs and IF removed the damage on the ult? He also completely changed how living armor works and lowered the cd for his ult drastically. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On September 04 2014 01:05 Comeh wrote: And now meepo is one of the most broken non-picked heroes this patch. Yeah, but that has nothing to do with that patch. He received a shitload of buffs since then. Just the Aghs addition changed the hero completelly. | ||
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-Celestial-
United Kingdom3867 Posts
On September 04 2014 01:05 Comeh wrote: And now meepo is one of the most broken non-picked heroes this patch. Meepo has always been broken. Just hardly anyone ever played/plays him properly. :3 | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On September 04 2014 01:07 SKC wrote: Yeah, but that has nothing to do with that patch. He received a shitload of buffs since then. Just the Aghs addition changed the hero completelly. True. I'm still in awe he has a reduced respawn time. | ||
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Laserist
Turkey4269 Posts
On September 04 2014 01:08 Comeh wrote: True. I'm still in awe he has a reduced respawn time. Most of the time it works to feed even faster. Respawn faster = feed faster | ||
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idonthinksobro
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