EPTthat might only be on radiant though i haven't seen pl played well on dire in ages
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kollin
United Kingdom8380 Posts
that might only be on radiant though i haven't seen pl played well on dire in ages | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
Sure win rates are not everything, but when tinker has one of the lowest professional win rates in 6.81 (17th lowest), heck Team Tinker barely picks Tinker nowadays. Are we WoTC now? Nerfing alternative strategies because they are 'unfun' and 'non-interactive'? | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
Competitively nobody cares but in pubs dear god that hero Please don't cite dotabuff winrates for that hero either, when 90% of games are played so deep in the trench you can't even find them, and by players who clearly can't press enough buttons to play wraith king much less tinker. His "most common" build on dotabuff is 4-4-0-0 like jesus fuck. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
I think just a flat blink nerf would be fine and see how tinker does in the wild world of the new meta. I mean, if LC is added to captain's mode, she could make his life a living hell. Also, I am with Snow-man, we can't cite games played by people who can't press buttons, which is critical for winning at dota. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On September 04 2014 00:38 Sn0_Man wrote: hows lc supposed to be good vs tinker? Well duel is one of the longest forms of crowd control in the game. So unlike most stuns, he won't be able to zip away instantly after since the entire time he is being nailed with auto attacks, putting blink on cool down. It also has a really low cast point, so its harder for him to blink away from it than most other forms of CC that have a cast point and then travel time. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 04 2014 00:30 Sn0_Man wrote: The sad part is blink would still be mandatory on tinker. Yup. He'd just be really, really bad. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Just wondering. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 04 2014 00:34 LSB wrote: Wait. Why are people complaining about tinker? He has a horrible professional and public win rate. Sure win rates are not everything, but when tinker has one of the lowest professional win rates in 6.81 (17th lowest), heck Team Tinker barely picks Tinker nowadays. Are we WoTC now? Nerfing alternative strategies because they are 'unfun' and 'non-interactive'? This is like saying that Earth Spirit shouldn't have been nerfed because his his pub winrate was low. Hint: it wasn't, not among players who knew what the fuck they were doing. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
On September 04 2014 00:42 Sn0_Man wrote: Utterly irrelevant points. Batrider is 99x better vs tinker. Maybe more. This isn't storm who "zips" away its a hero with blink dagger, an item which unlike all the heroes you hilariously wrongly describe as "0/low cast point" actually has 0 cast point. LC's grade A useless vs tinker. Blademail LC is pretty solid against Tinker. Some catch-out potential and then punishes the hero later in the game. Not as good as Doom or whatever, but hey. | ||
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
People have this absurd tendency of thinking of nothing but balance, but patches in Dota have been less about balance and more about changing the game for ages. Go back to almost any old hero rework and you can find a change that was the result of a hero being “not fun“ or “not very interactive“. | ||
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Acritter
Syria7637 Posts
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On September 04 2014 00:49 Acritter wrote: When did he nerf Ursa? I must have missed that. Overpower used to not use his cast point (similar to how his ult works atm). | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Comeh
United States18918 Posts
On September 04 2014 00:49 Sn0_Man wrote: WTB pre-nerf bara (aka normal BAT non-channeling ult). Overpower used to not use his cast point (similar to how his ult works atm). He got other buffs beyond that. I would say he's more viable than he was pre "nerf" | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On September 04 2014 00:51 Comeh wrote: He got other buffs beyond that. I would say he's more viable than he was pre "nerf" There were two nerf patches, the one with the adition of the cast point to overpower, and the one where they added the cast point to overpower, at a point where he was messing a lot with it. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
Earthshock used to have an annoying cast time compared to what it is now. | ||
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