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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 09 2012 15:12 GMT
#3821
testing it out by picking void everysingle game now :-/... so far all team feed so i cant compare -_-
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Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 15:59:58
March 09 2012 15:59 GMT
#3822
On March 10 2012 00:12 NB wrote:
testing it out by picking void everysingle game now :-/... so far all team feed so i cant compare -_-

Void is not the most pub-friendly hero there is. You should get some friends together or captain an informal TLIH if you wan't meaningful games with him imo.
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ilovelings
Profile Joined January 2011
Argentina776 Posts
March 09 2012 16:04 GMT
#3823
Am I the only one who's waiting for dirge?
People is diying.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 09 2012 16:19 GMT
#3824
On March 10 2012 01:04 ilovelings wrote:
Am I the only one who's waiting for dirge?


Yes ... :D What about dirge do you like? He's kinda a new hero for me(quit dota before he was around) so wondering what he's like in pubs.
scorch-
Profile Joined January 2011
United States816 Posts
March 09 2012 16:39 GMT
#3825
On March 09 2012 23:20 NB wrote:
some hero are just back stab their own team if controlled my noob hands....

Got a clock short lane with void(me) vs doom venom... spam rocket like no tmr and dont know how to pull... result i get no farm and he got killed 4 times bc lane pushed too far... ~_~.

Btw, is midas a good alternative for battle fury on void?


Yes, in public games where the other team doesn't have an obvious push lineup. You get 6/11 of a hyperstone and +100gpm for 1/3 of the price of BF. Attack speed is great for void and you can do something like midas/treads/vanguard/damage items. Ignore anyone who says you get BF for AOE damage in chrono... void is all about destroying a hero (or two) while his team is disabled. If the hero you're attacking is chrono'd you're probably using that spell wrong.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 09 2012 17:02 GMT
#3826
On March 10 2012 01:19 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2012 01:04 ilovelings wrote:
Am I the only one who's waiting for dirge?


Yes ... :D What about dirge do you like? He's kinda a new hero for me(quit dota before he was around) so wondering what he's like in pubs.

Always kill never die huehuehue is how I'd describe him
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Esoterikk
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1256 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 17:24:18
March 09 2012 17:23 GMT
#3827
I'm waiting for the rest of the assassins, Want to play NA so bad Also pub stomping on terrorblade might be fun.
Altsa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Finland990 Posts
March 09 2012 17:30 GMT
#3828
On March 10 2012 01:04 ilovelings wrote:
Am I the only one who's waiting for dirge?

No, Im there with you. He´s been my favourite hero for quite a long time.
AoD
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 09 2012 17:32 GMT
#3829
On March 10 2012 02:23 Esoterikk wrote:
I'm waiting for the rest of the assassins, Want to play NA so bad Also pub stomping on terrorblade might be fun.


I'm with you man. TA is someone I'm really keen on playing and working with.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
March 09 2012 17:43 GMT
#3830
On March 10 2012 01:04 ilovelings wrote:
Am I the only one who's waiting for dirge?


My team was completely destroyed by a Dirge in a DotA scrim, so no... doubt we'll see him this or next month though.
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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
March 09 2012 17:48 GMT
#3831
On March 09 2012 19:28 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 18:35 NB wrote:
so the question is: WHO AND WHEN TO GET ATOS??? :D

anyway, is there a way to block out russian sever but still enable European? Russian games are all no chick no ward mass carry x(... Dagon vanguard spam to max!


I can't really see a time where Rod of Atos is a good pickup unless its like ur 5th-6th item on OD and the game has gone that late.


If its that late and you're on OD theres no way you'd get that as a 5th/6th you'd want big late game items lol
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cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 18:00:59
March 09 2012 17:59 GMT
#3832
On March 10 2012 01:39 scorch- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 23:20 NB wrote:
some hero are just back stab their own team if controlled my noob hands....

Got a clock short lane with void(me) vs doom venom... spam rocket like no tmr and dont know how to pull... result i get no farm and he got killed 4 times bc lane pushed too far... ~_~.

Btw, is midas a good alternative for battle fury on void?


Yes, in public games where the other team doesn't have an obvious push lineup. You get 6/11 of a hyperstone and +100gpm for 1/3 of the price of BF. Attack speed is great for void and you can do something like midas/treads/vanguard/damage items. Ignore anyone who says you get BF for AOE damage in chrono... void is all about destroying a hero (or two) while his team is disabled. If the hero you're attacking is chrono'd you're probably using that spell wrong.

ye all the pros that go bf on void and use it to kill heros inside chronosphere must be doing something wrong

you dont get bf or midas because they are cost effective (they are both shit in cost effectiveness), you get them to farm faster but with a bf you are at least not completely useless for 30 minutes

endt: and why would you go vg on void :S
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 18:04:58
March 09 2012 18:03 GMT
#3833
antimage has got to be the trashiest hero ever wtf

just played 5v5, am goes midas first, goes 2-4 early game, then starts farming his own jungle only

30 minutes in, our highest (spectre with 8 kills) is lvl 17, he's 22
he has midas bfury treads manta aegis basher

wipes whole team

team goes from 13 kills ahead to instant-lose

wtf

how do you even stop that? constant gank?
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 09 2012 18:03 GMT
#3834
On March 09 2012 19:28 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 18:35 NB wrote:
so the question is: WHO AND WHEN TO GET ATOS??? :D

anyway, is there a way to block out russian sever but still enable European? Russian games are all no chick no ward mass carry x(... Dagon vanguard spam to max!


I can't really see a time where Rod of Atos is a good pickup unless its like ur 5th-6th item on OD and the game has gone that late.
I think it's okay on OD after you get your Force Staff and want to have a smoother power curve than with hex. Can't really think of much use for it for anyone else though, there's too many good caster items.
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MahKh
Profile Joined February 2012
144 Posts
March 09 2012 18:19 GMT
#3835
On March 10 2012 03:03 konadora wrote:
antimage has got to be the trashiest hero ever wtf

just played 5v5, am goes midas first, goes 2-4 early game, then starts farming his own jungle only

30 minutes in, our highest (spectre with 8 kills) is lvl 17, he's 22
he has midas bfury treads manta aegis basher

wipes whole team

team goes from 13 kills ahead to instant-lose

wtf

how do you even stop that? constant gank?

spectre mustve been doing something wrong, a farmed spec> a farmed am
superstartran
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4013 Posts
March 09 2012 18:41 GMT
#3836
On March 10 2012 03:03 konadora wrote:
antimage has got to be the trashiest hero ever wtf

just played 5v5, am goes midas first, goes 2-4 early game, then starts farming his own jungle only

30 minutes in, our highest (spectre with 8 kills) is lvl 17, he's 22
he has midas bfury treads manta aegis basher

wipes whole team

team goes from 13 kills ahead to instant-lose

wtf

how do you even stop that? constant gank?



You put the pressure on as the first 30 minutes of the game AM is useless in a teamfight unless he gets a lucky ult off on one of your intel heroes. Take the outer towers, maintain map control with aggressive warding, and just outfarm him with your tower gold/map control advantage.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 09 2012 18:41 GMT
#3837
On March 10 2012 03:03 konadora wrote:
antimage has got to be the trashiest hero ever wtf

just played 5v5, am goes midas first, goes 2-4 early game, then starts farming his own jungle only

30 minutes in, our highest (spectre with 8 kills) is lvl 17, he's 22
he has midas bfury treads manta aegis basher

wipes whole team

team goes from 13 kills ahead to instant-lose

wtf

how do you even stop that? constant gank?


If he goes midas first he should die when you look at him. That's basically how you have to do it. He's so weak that you can burst him down within one stun cycle I think with 2/3 heroes.
Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
March 09 2012 18:48 GMT
#3838
Have mm queue times gone up for you guys?
High Risk Low Reward
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 09 2012 18:50 GMT
#3839
On March 10 2012 03:48 Spicy_Curry wrote:
Have mm queue times gone up for you guys?

Yeah it has been since about 3 weeks or so?
WriterXiao8~~
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 09 2012 19:11 GMT
#3840
lol just picked sniper for the first time in dota2... skipped 1st skill and max WE then all stat... traditional DPS sniper is so good LOLOL

about AM thing: you have to counter him from the pick phase and get a legit line up with pushing power and early map control.
Once getting all tier 1, you have to ward their jungle to control the farm of their carry. Thats why AM picking is a coin flip move in pub: either you farm up and carry your team or your team gona roll over and die before you could farm up.

There are much better alternative pick instead of AM such as naix (lv 2 gank+jungle), ursa(rosh+jungle), huskar(lane control) for pub than AM. Especially naix as he is dangerous in all part of the game but late game and he could farm midas pretty fast if stack pull and gank correctly.
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