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akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
March 09 2012 08:57 GMT
#3801
should just always get force staff first imo
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
March 09 2012 09:14 GMT
#3802
I just can't think of why to get Atos instead of Force Staff ever, MAYBE for a hero like OD that wants the higher Int but in the end OD needs the survivability of mek and force as well. I dunno.
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LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
March 09 2012 09:29 GMT
#3803
I can't think of a situation where you want to go atos instead of force staff, but if you need to be helping your team before you can farm up a sheep, then atos is a good choice. If you aren't going into a teamfight before you could have sheep, then it is probably the wrong choice of item.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Kentakky
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 09:37:15
March 09 2012 09:34 GMT
#3804
On March 09 2012 18:14 Zlasher wrote:
I just can't think of why to get Atos instead of Force Staff ever, MAYBE for a hero like OD that wants the higher Int but in the end OD needs the survivability of mek and force as well. I dunno.



I like it on Lion after Blink+PT core works quite well since Agha bonus is stupid on him, doesn't really need another hex but of course not a bad choice still farming that 2700mystic can be annoying, doesn't need force since already got Blink, doesn't need euler can be good but doesn't really need it, basically just Shivas(same dilemma as guinsoo but at least you get armor + slow against hard hitters), Ghost or BKB I might buy instead of Atos on him depending what I play against.

but yeah it's tough to see people buying it instead of getting Force and then saving up for Guinsoo like with Silencer, OD etc...
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 09:35:16
March 09 2012 09:35 GMT
#3805
so the question is: WHO AND WHEN TO GET ATOS??? :D

anyway, is there a way to block out russian sever but still enable European? Russian games are all no chick no ward mass carry x(... Dagon vanguard spam to max!
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PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
March 09 2012 10:28 GMT
#3806
On March 09 2012 18:35 NB wrote:
so the question is: WHO AND WHEN TO GET ATOS??? :D

anyway, is there a way to block out russian sever but still enable European? Russian games are all no chick no ward mass carry x(... Dagon vanguard spam to max!


I can't really see a time where Rod of Atos is a good pickup unless its like ur 5th-6th item on OD and the game has gone that late.
Jieun <3
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
March 09 2012 10:48 GMT
#3807
atos is not a late game item, if you are considering 5th and 6th items you will be better off with heart and sheep or something along those lines.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
March 09 2012 10:50 GMT
#3808
On March 09 2012 19:48 LAN-f34r wrote:
atos is not a late game item, if you are considering 5th and 6th items you will be better off with heart and sheep or something along those lines.


I say late game, because why would you ever get Atos before sheep or force. The only time I could ever see anyone picking it up is late game i think.
Jieun <3
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
March 09 2012 10:56 GMT
#3809
You wouldn't get Atos after sheepstick.
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PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
March 09 2012 11:00 GMT
#3810
On March 09 2012 19:56 paper wrote:
You wouldn't get Atos after sheepstick.


And I wouldn't get it before it... so never get it?
Jieun <3
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 09 2012 11:09 GMT
#3811
On March 09 2012 20:00 PHILtheTANK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 19:56 paper wrote:
You wouldn't get Atos after sheepstick.


And I wouldn't get it before it... so never get it?


Basically yes. I think maybe if you don't need the survivability on OD(Force staff) then it can be decent.
Altsa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Finland990 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-09 11:30:03
March 09 2012 11:28 GMT
#3812
Atos is more or less an alternative to Force staff with better bonuses but arguably worse active. It is an option for heroes like Zeus, Silencer, OD, Enchantress, Krobelus etc. Pretty much useful for all int heros but other items might be better and they might not even farm that much anyways.
AoD
Tevinhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom470 Posts
March 09 2012 11:38 GMT
#3813
Is there a website similair to dota-league for Dota2? A place where you can play arranged gathers/pugs. I know of the TL gather channel but I'm wondering if there is a more active place for that?
eqez
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden837 Posts
March 09 2012 11:48 GMT
#3814
On March 09 2012 20:38 Tevinhead wrote:
Is there a website similair to dota-league for Dota2? A place where you can play arranged gathers/pugs. I know of the TL gather channel but I'm wondering if there is a more active place for that?


I dunno if you have to get vouched or not but check out http://www.dotalicious-gaming.com/
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
March 09 2012 11:52 GMT
#3815
Wasn't Esahara starting up a league too or something?
WriterXiao8~~
Tevinhead
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom470 Posts
March 09 2012 11:55 GMT
#3816
On March 09 2012 20:48 eqez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2012 20:38 Tevinhead wrote:
Is there a website similair to dota-league for Dota2? A place where you can play arranged gathers/pugs. I know of the TL gather channel but I'm wondering if there is a more active place for that?


I dunno if you have to get vouched or not but check out http://www.dotalicious-gaming.com/

It seems you do need to be vouched. I haven't played dota since around 2008 so I'm not really playing like a superstar. But I really want to play pre-arranged games with competent people, these matchmaking games make me cry inside. =(
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
March 09 2012 12:34 GMT
#3817
On March 09 2012 20:38 Tevinhead wrote:
Is there a website similair to dota-league for Dota2? A place where you can play arranged gathers/pugs. I know of the TL gather channel but I'm wondering if there is a more active place for that?


TL is the most active IH place around.
if you can believe you can concieve
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
March 09 2012 14:20 GMT
#3818
some hero are just back stab their own team if controlled my noob hands....

Got a clock short lane with void(me) vs doom venom... spam rocket like no tmr and dont know how to pull... result i get no farm and he got killed 4 times bc lane pushed too far... ~_~.

Btw, is midas a good alternative for battle fury on void?
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
March 09 2012 14:31 GMT
#3819
On March 09 2012 23:20 NB wrote:
some hero are just back stab their own team if controlled my noob hands....

Got a clock short lane with void(me) vs doom venom... spam rocket like no tmr and dont know how to pull... result i get no farm and he got killed 4 times bc lane pushed too far... ~_~.

Btw, is midas a good alternative for battle fury on void?

nah I would go bf since it provides you with regen for lane control and you can do splash dmg in chrono and midas just makes you useless for 20 minutes
ilovelings
Profile Joined January 2011
Argentina776 Posts
March 09 2012 14:38 GMT
#3820
bf is great on void as a farming item and as a way to maximize chronosphere damage.
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